Re: [Review - Not yet] aterm-0.4.2-1 - vt102 terminal emulator, based on rxvt

2004-03-05 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Charles Wilson wrote:

  Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 
  You have a dependency in setup.hint on 'cygipc2'.  There is no such
  package, it is called 'cygipc'.
 
  Also, any *new* packages, IMO, should not rely on cygipc at all.
  Instead, they should be compiled against cygserver, which beats the
  pants off cygipc any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

 He is only dependent upon cygipc because Cygwin/X is dependent upon it
 and has not yet been rebuilt against cygserver.

Then it shouldn't be included at all, according to
http://cygwin.com/setup.html:

Conversely, do not include package dependencies of dependent
packages in your dependency list. If you think that another
package has an incorrect dependency list, send email to
cygwin-apps noting that fact.

HTH,
Igor

 I have been waiting to do this rebuild until I release the new Cygwin/X
 build from the xorg tree on freedesktop.org.  I am gearing up to do
 this... possibly next week as a sort of 1.0pre-1 release since the
 official 1.0 release won't be made for at least a few weeks.  When I do
 that rebuild it will be against cygserver and cygipc will be dropped as
 a dependency.

 Harold

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Re: [Review - Not yet] aterm-0.4.2-1 - vt102 terminal emulator, based on rxvt

2004-03-04 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Jari,

 You have a dependency in setup.hint on 'cygipc2'.  There is no such
 package, it is called 'cygipc'.

 You also have a dependency on 'xfree86-base'.  Note that the package
 name is 'XFree86-base'.  This should be fixed for consistency.

 Did you actually try to use this package?  I ran it from and xterm and
 it didn't echo typed characters and printed escape sequences for the
 shell prompt instead of readable characters.  It performed similarly
 from a command prompt.

 Launching from both an xterm and from the command prompt resulted in
 aterm using 100% of the CPU.

 Unless you tested this and these are minor and easily fixable problems,
 then I am going to actually ask you to revoke you ITP since there is no
 way that this package can be included with the above shell and infinite
 loop problems.

 Harold

Harold,

If aterm is based on rxvt, it probably runs /bin/sh rather than /bin/bash
(which would explain the escape sequence problem above).  The solution for
rxvt (which should also help here) is to run rxvt -e bash.

I agree that the other problems are pretty much showstoppers.  It would
have helped if you mentioned at least the version of Windows that you
tried it on, though (I assume you have the latest packages installed).
Igor
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Re: [Review - Not yet] aterm-0.4.2-1 - vt102 terminal emulator, based on rxvt

2004-03-04 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

If aterm is based on rxvt, it probably runs /bin/sh rather than /bin/bash
(which would explain the escape sequence problem above).  The solution for
rxvt (which should also help here) is to run rxvt -e bash.
I agree that the other problems are pretty much showstoppers.  It would
have helped if you mentioned at least the version of Windows that you
tried it on, though (I assume you have the latest packages installed).
In the interest of not writing overly long emails (which I find people 
tend to ignore), I decided to not even mention that I tried other shells 
since describing the slight difference in behavior wouldn't really 
matter since it goes into an infinite loop.  aterm -e /bin/bash 
behaves only slightly differently.

The version of Windows I am running doesn't matter unless Jari can't 
reproduce the problem, in which case he can ask what version I have; 
until then it would just be noise.

Harold


Re: [Review - Not yet] aterm-0.4.2-1 - vt102 terminal emulator, based on rxvt

2004-03-04 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Igor Pechtchanski wrote:

  On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
  
  If aterm is based on rxvt, it probably runs /bin/sh rather than /bin/bash
  (which would explain the escape sequence problem above).  The solution for
  rxvt (which should also help here) is to run rxvt -e bash.
 
  I agree that the other problems are pretty much showstoppers.  It would
  have helped if you mentioned at least the version of Windows that you
  tried it on, though (I assume you have the latest packages installed).

 In the interest of not writing overly long emails (which I find people
 tend to ignore), I decided to not even mention that I tried other shells
 since describing the slight difference in behavior wouldn't really
 matter since it goes into an infinite loop.  aterm -e /bin/bash
 behaves only slightly differently.

The above was meant as more of an academic comment.  If you think the
escape sequences problem is trivial compared to the hangs (with which I
actually agree), you probably shouldn't have mentioned it.  Having
mentioned it, and not having said that you've tried aterm -e /bin/bash,
you opened yourself up for the above guess... :-)  BTW, using bash rather
than sh was only supposed to help the escape sequence problem, and nothing
else (did it?).

 The version of Windows I am running doesn't matter unless Jari can't
 reproduce the problem, in which case he can ask what version I have;
 until then it would just be noise.
  Harold

Allow me to disagree.  Reporting your Windows version lets Jari know that
either the program misbehaves on some version he hasn't tried, or that
something in your setup is different.  I sincerely hope he actually tested
the package executables on his machine, in which case it would be a given
that he can't reproduce it.  Having him ask you for a version will
generate much more mailing list traffic than including the version in the
original problem report in the first place, IMHO.

And with this I'll conclude this overly long off-topic e-mail that people
are free to ignore. :-)
Igor
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Re: [Review - Not yet] aterm-0.4.2-1 - vt102 terminal emulator, based on rxvt

2004-03-04 Thread Charles Wilson
Harold L Hunt II wrote:

You have a dependency in setup.hint on 'cygipc2'.  There is no such 
package, it is called 'cygipc'.
Also, any *new* packages, IMO, should not rely on cygipc at all. 
Instead, they should be compiled against cygserver, which beats the 
pants off cygipc any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

--
Chuck


Re: [Review - Not yet] aterm-0.4.2-1 - vt102 terminal emulator, based on rxvt

2004-03-04 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Charles Wilson wrote:

Harold L Hunt II wrote:

You have a dependency in setup.hint on 'cygipc2'.  There is no such 
package, it is called 'cygipc'.


Also, any *new* packages, IMO, should not rely on cygipc at all. 
Instead, they should be compiled against cygserver, which beats the 
pants off cygipc any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
He is only dependent upon cygipc because Cygwin/X is dependent upon it 
and has not yet been rebuilt against cygserver.  I have been waiting to 
do this rebuild until I release the new Cygwin/X build from the xorg 
tree on freedesktop.org.  I am gearing up to do this... possibly next 
week as a sort of 1.0pre-1 release since the official 1.0 release won't 
be made for at least a few weeks.  When I do that rebuild it will be 
against cygserver and cygipc will be dropped as a dependency.

Harold