Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-21 Thread Charles Wilson
Can we get a diff for the HTML page? Okay --- setup-old.html Sun Apr 21 03:03:18 2002 +++ setup.html Sun Apr 21 03:01:44 2002 @@ -21,9 +21,9 @@ border=0 usemap=#topbar alt=/a/center !-- == -- -!--

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-21 Thread Robert Collins
Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: Re: strange source packaging? Can we get a diff for the HTML page? Okay Thanks... -standard Cygwin setup program. This documents the syntax of the +standard

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-21 Thread Charles Wilson
Robert Collins wrote: All the content changes look great however. If you can clean up the space to tab conversion, I'm happy for this to go in. However as it's a change to the standard... Any objections from any contributor? Okay, I've made the corrections you mentioned. I had smart

RE: strange source packaging?

2002-04-21 Thread Robert Collins
, April 22, 2002 1:18 PM To: Robert Collins Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: strange source packaging? Robert Collins wrote: All the content changes look great however. If you can clean up the space to tab conversion, I'm happy for this to go in. However as it's a change

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-20 Thread Charles Wilson
Charles Wilson wrote: Actually, if there's no opposition (hah!) I'll update the documentation to reflect the current situation (e.g. 3 styles) -- but I'd like to mark one of them as the preferred style for new packages. Hopefully mine and robert's style. ;-) Okay, as promised:

RE: strange source packaging?

2002-04-20 Thread Robert Collins
-Original Message- From: Charles Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2002 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: strange source packaging? Charles Wilson wrote: Actually, if there's no opposition (hah!) I'll update the documentation

RE: strange source packaging?

2002-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
-Original Message- From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 3:13 AM I'll add another penny to make it 2c. I agree with Chris that I'd rather already have the patch applied. Why? If it's for ease of use, then fine - I agree that what the user

RE: strange source packaging?

2002-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
-Original Message- From: Charles Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 12:44 AM of the antecedent project. There is no way, given just gcc-2.95.3-5-src.tar.bz2, to revert to the 'original' source -- short of also downloading the 2.95.3 source from

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-19 Thread Charles Wilson
Robert Collins wrote: And the GPL requires us to document the changes made - if we have the patch pre-applied, with no reverse patch, then this isn't the case. Asking folk to go elsewhere to get that 'pristine' source puts the onus on the upstream to make that available, which we can't do -

RE: strange source packaging?

2002-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
-Original Message- From: Charles Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:57 PM To: Robert Collins Cc: Corinna Vinschen Subject: Re: strange source packaging? Robert Collins wrote: And the GPL requires us to document the changes made - if we

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-19 Thread Earnie Boyd
Charles Wilson wrote: Robert Collins wrote: And the GPL requires us to document the changes made - if we have the patch pre-applied, with no reverse patch, then this isn't the case. Asking folk to go elsewhere to get that 'pristine' source puts the onus on the upstream to make that

RE: strange source packaging?

2002-04-19 Thread Robert Collins
-Original Message- From: Earnie Boyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 12:20 AM Section 2.a You must cause the modified files to carry prominent notices stating that you chaned the files and the date of any change. /Section 2.a A differences file

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-18 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 08:21:57PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2001-11/msg00510.html Wow. Insightful email. as usual... Well, I guess I haven't been paying much attention to your and Robert's packages. I'd forgotten that I'd suggested that we

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-18 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 10:44:10AM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: Both style 1 and style 2 in my original email obey this. The difference is that style 2 packages -- gcc, binutils, make, etc -- don't have package-ver-subver/CYGWIN-PATCHES/a-patch in fact, they don't have 'a-patch' at all.

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-18 Thread Charles Wilson
Corinna Vinschen wrote: I'm talking about style 2. I'm using it for my packages. I don't see a need that the Cygwin package needs the patch from the original version. The pristine source is available elsewhere. We're responsible for the Cygwin version. In the long run the maintainer

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-18 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:44:26AM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: BUT...having said all of that, I reiterate: I prefer the style 3 over EITHER style 1 or style 2 -- and the question here seems to be document styles 1,2,3, or document 1,(!2),3 or (!1),2,3 So I win, regardless. I really

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-18 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 11:44:26AM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: The argument for style 1 against style 2 is this: Does anybody, other than Chris, have ANY idea what the differences between gnu-gcc-2.95.3 and cygwin-gcc-2.95.3-5 are? How many files are changed, and how significantly? What

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Currently, there are three dominant -src packaging standards. 1. As detailed on http://cygwin.com/setup.html#package_contents foo-VER-REL-src.tar.bz2 unpacks thus: foo-VER[-REL]/ foo-VER[-REL]/source files foo-VER[-REL]/subdirs foo-VER[-REL]/subdirs/source files

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Lapo Luchini
As to why the .gz(or.bz2) compressed original source code tarball is included inside an .bz2 -src package, when the internal tarball can't really be compressed further: it's the original. If I ungzip it, and then bzip it, then it isn't the original version EXACTLY as distributed by the

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Lapo Luchini wrote: PS: I can see at least a motivation for using exact original package now: so that people can use md5sum and get convinced that the included file is really exactly the original... Bingo. --Chuck

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:58:55PM +0200, Lapo Luchini wrote: Why the wget-1.8.1-1-src.tar.bz2 package does contain wget-1.8.1.tar.gz ? That would be what is called in the software community a mistake. Can this be corrected, asap, Hack? cgf

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Charles Wilson
Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:58:55PM +0200, Lapo Luchini wrote: Why the wget-1.8.1-1-src.tar.bz2 package does contain wget-1.8.1.tar.gz ? That would be what is called in the software community a mistake. Can this be corrected, asap, Hack? ??? Chris, are you

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 03:12:00PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: Christopher Faylor wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 06:58:55PM +0200, Lapo Luchini wrote: Why the wget-1.8.1-1-src.tar.bz2 package does contain wget-1.8.1.tar.gz ? That would be what is called in the software community a mistake.

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Apr 17, 2002 at 04:31:04PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: As I recall, the your final word on the matter -- before the thread degenerated into yet another We need an 'install all' option in setup discussion -- was (more or less) whatever. All these proposals sound fine. As long as it

Re: strange source packaging?

2002-04-17 Thread Charles Wilson
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2001-11/msg00510.html Wow. Insightful email. as usual... Well, I guess I haven't been paying much attention to your and Robert's packages. I'd forgotten that I'd suggested that we package as we see fit and foolishly looked to what I supposed was the