XWin -help behavior

2002-04-29 Thread Thomas Chadwick

I just noticed today that if I run XWin -help, I don't see anything at the 
command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.

Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead of the log 
file?


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RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox setup.exepackages available for testing

2002-04-29 Thread Harold Hunt

Richard,

Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser... that
means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and I'm
not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may want
to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try to
connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That may
help...

Harold

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
 To: Harold Hunt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
 setup.exepackages available for testing


 Harold,

 I tried pointing setup.exe to
 ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
 and then comes back with Unable to get setup.ini from
 ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/;.  I'm a relative
 newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
 directory with my browser).

 -rich

 PS:  Love the cygwin  cygwin/xfree products!


 Harold Hunt wrote:
 
  Point setup.exe at:
  ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
 
  There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
  WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
 
  I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
 install on
  there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
 
  Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
 generic Cygwin
  build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
 as well (if
  you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
 
  Enjoy,
 
  Harold





Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, andOpenboxsetup.exepackages available for testing

2002-04-29 Thread Richard Drake

Harold,

still no luck.  we need another data point to isolate the problem .. somebody else 
needs to try to point setup.exe to that location...

-rich

Harold Hunt wrote:
 
 Richard,
 
 Hmm... you mention that you can see the directory with your browser... that
 means that your browser has a connection open to my ftp server... and I'm
 not sure how many connections my server allows per host.  Thus, you may want
 to close your browser, wait a few minutes, then open setup.exe and try to
 connect again (without opening your web browser to that address).  That may
 help...
 
 Harold
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Richard Drake
  Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:48 AM
  To: Harold Hunt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox
  setup.exepackages available for testing
 
 
  Harold,
 
  I tried pointing setup.exe to
  ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/ but it tries to connect
  and then comes back with Unable to get setup.ini from
  ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/;.  I'm a relative
  newbie .. am i missing something with setup.exe?  (I can see that
  directory with my browser).
 
  -rich
 
  PS:  Love the cygwin  cygwin/xfree products!
 
 
  Harold Hunt wrote:
  
   Point setup.exe at:
   ftp://huntharo-4.user.msu.edu/pub/cygwin/
  
   There is a setup.ini there that has all the XFree86 packages plus
   WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openbox.
  
   I've tested the packages locally, but I'd like someone to do an
  install on
   there system before I post the packages to the mirror network.
  
   Oh, I also figured out how to do source packages (using the
  generic Cygwin
   build script), so each of these new packages has a source file
  as well (if
   you wish to see what was changed to make them compile on Cygwin).
  
   Enjoy,
  
   Harold
 




RE: XWin -help behavior

2002-04-29 Thread Thomas Chadwick

Aha.  I see now that man XWin and man Xserver are a preferable 
alternative to Xwin -help anyway.

From: Harold Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: XWin -help behavior
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:44:36 -0400

Sam,

Thanks, I forgot that point.

Harold

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sam Edge
  Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:40 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: XWin -help behavior
 
 
  Thomas Chadwick wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:30:40 -0400:
 
   I just noticed today that if I run XWin -help, I don't see
  anything at the
   command-line.  I have to go look in /tmp/XWin.log to see the results.
   Would it make send to print this information to STERR instead
  of the log
   file?
 
  XWin.exe is linked as a Windows GUI application to stop it requiring
  the creation of a console window so it doesn't have redirectable
  standard I/O.
 
  --
  Sam Edge


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RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] WindowMaker, libPropList, and Openboxsetup.exepackages available for testing

2002-04-29 Thread Harold Hunt

Eugene,

Thanks for the confirmation.

 WindowMaker is working OK. Had a glitch in the beginning. I could not see
 wmaker in /usr/local where all other window managers I have compiled (or
 tried to compile) live (openbox, blackbox, icewm). I tried to run it from
 the command line and got a dialog from wmaker saying it could not find
 libX11.dll. I put it into my .xinitrc file and ran startx. I got
 same error
 then a series of errors same or similar dialogues from
 wdwrite.exe but then,
 after all that, I got the windowmaker desktop and never been able to
 reproduce the error, it starts every time now. Anyone else had a similar
 problem?

WindowMaker is not installed in /usr/local (more on this below).

You had a path problem from the command line because /usr/bin
(c:/cygwin/bin) is not in your DOS path... so it is expected that wmaker
could not be found.

The errors that you saw from the first startup of wmaker were, if you
actually read them, a bunch of messages saying that a configuration was
being created for you.  A bunch of this messages have WARNING in them,
such as Warning: creating user profile...  so it looks like something has
gone wrong at first glance, but actually wmaker is doing precisely what you
want.

Once the configuration profile is created it doesn't have to be created
again, thus no more messages.

 Also, I am wondering. All other window managers seem to default to
 /usr/local and so does the Makefile to the WindowMaker. Is there a
 particular reason it installs into /bin?

/usr/local/* is not in the path of 99% of Cygwin users (I'm guessing at this
one), and all Cygwin packages are supposed to be installed to /usr/*
(http://cygwin.com/setup.html).  /usr/local is really for user compiled
stuff, while /usr is for system stuff.  WindowMaker et al are now system
stuff, since they are installed via setup.exe, thus they go in /usr.

 (I have tried to compile it but
 failed with unresolved reference to Xsetlocale at linktime. This might be
 simple but I am without a clue in this area so far.)

The contents of my patch are below.  My fix was very simple... I wouldn't
submit this one to WindowMaker.org.

Harold


diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am
WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am  Thu Oct 11 05:59:54
2001
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/WINGs/Examples/Makefile.am   Mon Apr 29 09:43:06 2002
 -17,12 +17,12 
 connect_DEPENDENCIES = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a

 connect_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH \
-   NETLIBS INTLIBS
+   NETLIBS INTLIBS XLIBS

 server_DEPENDENCIES = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a

 server_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH \
-   NETLIBS INTLIBS
+   NETLIBS INTLIBS XLIBS


 INCLUDES = -I$(top_srcdir)/WINGs -I$(top_srcdir)/wrlib -I$(top_srcdir)/src
\
diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am
WindowMaker-0.80.0/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.am   Sat Dec 30
20:33:10 2000
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/WindowMaker/Icons/Makefile.amMon Apr 29 10:04:13
2002
 -4,7 +4,7 

 defsdata_DATA = \
BitchX.tiff\
-   DefaultAppIcon.tiff\
+   defaultAppIcon.tiff\
Ftp.png\
GNUstep.tiff\
GNUstep3D.tiff\
diff -urN -x .build -x .inst -x .sinst
WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/util/Makefile.am WindowMaker-0.80.0/util/Makefile.am
--- WindowMaker-0.80.0-orig/util/Makefile.amThu Oct 11 05:59:54 2001
+++ WindowMaker-0.80.0/util/Makefile.am Mon Apr 29 09:51:58 2002
 -18,7 +18,7 
 # X_EXTRA_LIBS is for libproplist in systems that need -lsocket
 # remove after we require lPL 0.10.2 which automatically resolves its
 # library dependancies using the libPropList.la file
-liblist= LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH X_EXTRA_LIBS INTLIBS
+liblist= LIBRARY_SEARCH_PATH XLIBS INTLIBS

 wdwrite_LDADD = $(top_builddir)/WINGs/libWUtil.a $(liblist)




cygjpeg6b.dll not found

2002-04-29 Thread Lars Jensen

When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
package is it supposed to come in?

Openbox works great.

Lars.

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RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found

2002-04-29 Thread Harold Hunt

Lars,

You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths correctly.

The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.

You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.

Harold

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
 
 
 When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
 checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
 package is it supposed to come in?
 
 Openbox works great.
 
 Lars.
 
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 Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
 Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
 



Re: cygjpeg6b.dll not found

2002-04-29 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:26:10PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote:
Harold,

Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)

The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!

Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?

http://cygwin.com/packages/

will give you a clue.

cgf



RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found

2002-04-29 Thread Harold Hunt

Lars,

Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, I checked and cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
/cygwin directory.

No need to get pissy.

Harold

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
 To: Harold Hunt
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found


 Harold,

 Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)

 The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
 at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!

 Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?

 Lars.


 On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

  Lars,
 
  You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
 correctly.
 
  The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
 
  You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
 
  Harold
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
   Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
  
  
   When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
   checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
   package is it supposed to come in?
  
   Openbox works great.
  
   Lars.
  
   --
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   Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
   Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
  
 

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RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found

2002-04-29 Thread Lars Jensen

Harold,

I guess a crucial not was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.

Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?

Lars.

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:

 Lars,
 
 Yeah, I read it.  But I read it as, I checked and cygjpeg6b.dll IS in my
 /cygwin directory.
 
 No need to get pissy.
 
 Harold
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
  Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:26 PM
  To: Harold Hunt
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
 
 
  Harold,
 
  Did you read more than the subject title of my posting?  ;-)
 
  The message states that cygjpeg6b.dll is not in my \cygwin directory tree
  at all. Further I am using startxwin.bat to start wmaker!
 
  Where does the cygjpeg.dll come from?
 
  Lars.
 
 
  On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
 
   Lars,
  
   You've gotta start wmaker via some script that sets your paths
  correctly.
  
   The startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh scripts do this.
  
   You can't just run wmaker from any old command line.
  
   Harold
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lars Jensen
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: cygjpeg6b.dll not found
   
   
When I try to start wmaker I get the eerror CYGJPEG6B.DLL not found. I
checked that this file indeed is not in my \cygwin directory. Which
package is it supposed to come in?
   
Openbox works great.
   
Lars.
   
--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
   
  
 
  --
  Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Dandini Blvd, Reno NV 89512-3999.
  Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.scsr.nevada.edu/~jensen
  Tel: 775.673.7113  FAX: 775.674.7592
 
 
 

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Re: cygjpeg6b.dll not found

2002-04-29 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:59:52PM -0700, Lars Jensen wrote:
I guess a crucial not was missing. -Anyhow, it was only meant as a
joke. I hope you didn't take any offense.

Anyway, where does cygjpeg6b.dll come from?

Wow.  This thread is getting painful now.

cgf



Re: cygjpeg6b.dll not found

2002-04-29 Thread Charles Wilson

Dawson, David W wrote:

 Goodness!!
 
 
cygjpeg6b.dll is part of the jpeg package of Cygwin.

 WindowMaker depends upon this package.
 As noted in another post, WindowMaker also depends on the tiff package.

 Now that it has become evident that WindowMaker also needs these
 (non-default) packages, it could be so-noted in Howard's setup.ini file.
 (IIF he wants to.)


Actually, this is a packaging error in windowmaker.  The setup.hint / 
setup.ini MUST list the required dependencies, for packages intended for 
distribution via the offiical mirror network.

requires:    tiff jpeg

should appear in the setup.hint.  Then, when the website maintainer runs 
upset, setup.ini will specify the correct dependencies -- and when a 
users runs setup.exe and selects windowmaker, setep will automatically 
select the tiff and jpeg packages to satisfy those dependencies.

Cool, huh?

--Chuck




Re: Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?

2002-04-29 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 05:08 PM 4/29/2002, Harold Hunt wrote:
I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?


The latter please.

Thanks,



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Best place for WindowMaker, Openbox, etc.?

2002-04-29 Thread Harold Hunt

I've created Cygwin setup.exe packages for the X11 window managers
WindowMaker and Openbox.  I have tentatively put them in
release/XFree86/WindowMaker and release/XFree86/openbox... is that a good
idea?  Or, should I give each X package a toplevel directory in release/?

Harold