Re: Problems with Startx even after rebaseall

2007-05-05 Thread Robert Neville
On Thu, 3 May 2007 00:22:50 +0100, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* Robert Neville (Wed, 02 May 2007 12:19:45 -0700)
 On Wed, 2 May 2007 09:57:08 +0100, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Robert Neville (Tue, 01 May 2007 14:09:59 -0700)
  On Tue, 1 May 2007 08:55:47 +0100, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  * Robert Neville (Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:45:46 -0700)
   On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:47:39 +0100, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
   * Robert Neville (Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:18:15 -0700)
I am not sure if this is the appropriate group. In addition, 
searching through
these gmane newsgroups is not straightforward since Google groups 
does not return them.

Startx fails to initialize when it worked yesterday. I ran setup 
and the process may have not
completed (it was late and I needed to sleep). After running 
setup.exe again, I navigated to the
System category and reinstalled rebase. Then I reviewed the README 
file; kill all processes
associated with cygwin; ran ash; and typed /bin/rebaseall -v; the 
utility performed some actions and
returned without errors.

I fired up a cygwin window and startx would still not initialize. 
The console gave me the following
font error.

sageQueue trapped WM_QUIT message, exiting main loop.
winClipboardProc - XDestroyWindow succeeded.
FreeFontPath: FPE /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ refcount is 2, 
should be 1; fixing.

The cygwin console appears fully functional. The console has 
returned some errors when running make,
but these issues may be completely separate. Please give me 
whatever insight you may have on these
scenarios. I have already spent considerable time troubleshooting 
these issues and need better
guidance.
  
  XWin was started with the following command line:
  X :0 -multiwindow -clipboard
  
  Read again my posting. I said without and not with (which wouldn't 
  make sense at all if there is a winClipboardIOError). startx is a 
  shell script. Copy it, find the line where XWin is started and remove 
  the arguments (parameters). Then start this script. 
  
  
  I did not realize that startx was just a script. Honestly, the clipboard 
  is the main reason for me
  launching Xwin. After editing the script and removing the clipboard 
  argument, the console returns a
  winInitMultiWindowXMsgProc - Caught IO Error. Then I removed the 
  multiwindow argument and the
  console returned the following error. I don't have much time to evaluate 
  this scenario or the
  patience; hopefully someone has seen this scenario before. 
  [XWin log]
 
 I can't see any error in the new log you posted. The only thing I can 
 advise you is to try to run the startxwin.sh and startxwin.bat file to 
 see if they make a difference...
 
 Thorsten
 
 
 Sorry about not posting the error log. I was helping several other people 
 with their basic computer
 issues and made this oversight. Both startxwin.bat and startxwin.sh fail. 
 Here are the error logs.
 
 $ startx
 
 Welcome to the XWin X Server
 Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
 Release: 6.8.99.901-4
 
 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
 
 XWin was started with the following command line:
 
 X :0
 
 _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root
 winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
 (II) XF86Config is not supported
 (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for more information
 winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
 winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
 winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
 winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per 
 pixel
 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
 MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
 XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of 
 shar
 ed memory support in the kernel
 (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409)
 (--) Using preset keyboard for English (USA) (409), type 4
 Rules = xorg Model = pc105 Layout = us Variant = (null) Options = 
 (null
 )
 (--) 5 mouse buttons found
 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/, removing 
 from li
 st!
 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing 
 from
 list!
 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing 
 from li
 st!
 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing 
 from
  list!
 winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 509 353
 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
 winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning.
 cat: /home/Ferdie/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
 
 waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: 

Re: how to install dejavu font ?

2007-05-05 Thread Holger Krull
Didier BRETIN schrieb:
 On 04/05/2007 16:01, Holger Krull wrote:
 Didier BRETIN schrieb:
 I installed cygwin/X on my XP box and it's running well. I would like to
 use the dejavu font (http://dejavu.sf.net/) under X. Do you know how I
 can install them ?

 I don't know if this is enough, but putting the font in
 /usr/cygwin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
 will be a good start.
 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts exists but there is TTF directory  Perharps
 I need some specific packages ?

The scalable fonts. That is
xorg-x11-fscl

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Re: how to install dejavu font ?

2007-05-05 Thread Holger Krull
Holger Krull schrieb:
 Didier BRETIN schrieb:
 On 04/05/2007 16:01, Holger Krull wrote:
 Didier BRETIN schrieb:
 I installed cygwin/X on my XP box and it's running well. I would like to
 use the dejavu font (http://dejavu.sf.net/) under X. Do you know how I
 can install them ?
 I don't know if this is enough, but putting the font in
 /usr/cygwin/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
 will be a good start.
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts exists but there is TTF directory  Perharps
 I need some specific packages ?
 
 The scalable fonts. That is
 xorg-x11-fscl

And i believe you need to call font-update after you put the dejavu font
 there.

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Xterm, rxvt, mrxvt, etc....

2007-05-05 Thread Gustavo Seabra

Hi all,

I just wonder what is the current status of terminals for X in Cygwin. I 
currently use xterm, but I've seen people using rxvt and mrxvt. Also, I 
heard that rxvt is actually currently supported in Cygwin, something 
that xterm apparently isn't.


Is anybody using rxvt, mrxvt or something else that would care to share 
opinion/information/clues here?


Thanks,

Gustavo.

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Re: Problems with Startx even after rebaseall

2007-05-05 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Robert Neville (Sat, 05 May 2007 00:10:50 -0700)
 On Thu, 3 May 2007 00:22:50 +0100, Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  _XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
  _XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running
  
  Fatal server error:
  Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't 
  already run
  ning
  winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress
 
 It seems like there is something already listening or blocking the X 
 server...
 
 
 Do you have any suggestions on a solution?

Actually almost none (I just recently started using Xwinw and I'm 
still amazed who easy the setup is and that seemingly everything 
simply works).

 I have no idea why this would occur or how to troubleshoot these scenarios.
 
 The console keeps returning the font error. 
 
 Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/, removing from 
 li
 st!
 winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 509 353
 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
 winProcEstablishConnection - Clipboard is not enabled, returning.
 cat: /home/neville/.Xauthority: No such file or directory
 
 waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE 
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mi
 sc/ refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
 winDeinitMultiWindowWM - Noting shutdown in progress

You seem to get different errors when starting startx or startxwin.sh 
and startxwin.bat. This log shows no reason for shutting down the X 
server - the other said there was already one running.
 
 This link gave me some insight, yet it did not resolve my main problem.
 
  http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-error-font-eof
 
 Apparently, mount does not list any mount points for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts 
 on my installation. 

Well, neither on mine and there are no mount statements in the 
postinstall scripts. I think some years ago there was a mounted font 
path but I might be mistaken.

Anyway, check if all the postinstall sripts have been run, and 
consider reinstalling X or Cygwin or Windows...

Thorsten
 


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Re: Xterm, rxvt, mrxvt, etc....

2007-05-05 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Gustavo Seabra wrote:


Hi all,

I just wonder what is the current status of terminals for X in Cygwin. I 
currently use xterm, but I've seen people using rxvt and mrxvt. Also, I heard 
that rxvt is actually currently supported in Cygwin, something that xterm 
apparently isn't.


support is relative.  There's apparently no X maintainer, so no updated 
packages.  On the other hand, while I respond to xterm issues(*) on this 
and other lists, I don't recall _ever_ seeing support from rxvt's 
maintainers on this list.


(*) aside from obvious ones - setting the font is an example that's best
done via the manpage.

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Re: Xterm, rxvt, mrxvt, etc....

2007-05-05 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Thomas Dickey (Sat, 5 May 2007 10:12:18 -0400 (EDT))
 On Sat, 5 May 2007, Gustavo Seabra wrote:
  I just wonder what is the current status of terminals for X in Cygwin. I 
  currently use xterm, but I've seen people using rxvt and mrxvt. Also, I 
  heard 
  that rxvt is actually currently supported in Cygwin, something that xterm 
  apparently isn't.
 
 support is relative.  There's apparently no X maintainer, so no updated 
 packages.  On the other hand, while I respond to xterm issues(*) on this 
 and other lists, I don't recall _ever_ seeing support from rxvt's 
 maintainers on this list.

rxvt is not an X package...


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Re: Xterm, rxvt, mrxvt, etc....

2007-05-05 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Thorsten Kampe wrote:


* Thomas Dickey (Sat, 5 May 2007 10:12:18 -0400 (EDT))

On Sat, 5 May 2007, Gustavo Seabra wrote:

I just wonder what is the current status of terminals for X in Cygwin. I
currently use xterm, but I've seen people using rxvt and mrxvt. Also, I heard
that rxvt is actually currently supported in Cygwin, something that xterm
apparently isn't.


support is relative.  There's apparently no X maintainer, so no updated
packages.  On the other hand, while I respond to xterm issues(*) on this
and other lists, I don't recall _ever_ seeing support from rxvt's
maintainers on this list.


rxvt is not an X package...


rxvt could run in X, but I agree it has a win32-specific chunk of code.

However, the last I read of _that_ was that it was no longer supported.
For example

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2006-05/msg2.html

google's not showing me a recent maintainer for the code.

If there's no maintainer, it's not supported, no matter what the mailing 
list is.


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Re: Xterm, rxvt, mrxvt, etc....

2007-05-05 Thread Charles Wilson

Thomas Dickey wrote:
support is relative.  There's apparently no X maintainer, so no 
updated

packages.  On the other hand, while I respond to xterm issues(*) on this
and other lists, I don't recall _ever_ seeing support from rxvt's
maintainers on this list.


It's a two-way street. I put out a call for assistance -- backed up with 
ITPs of five packages, so I put my money where my mouth was -- and a 
whole long forward-looking plan concerning a revived libW11


http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2006-03/msg00122.html
(and other messages in this thread, plus):

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2006-03/msg00118.html
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2006-03/msg00119.html
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2006-03/msg00120.html
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2006-03/msg00121.html

but no one cared.  I certainly got no interest in libW11, or rxvt-W11 -- 
such that their ITP's expired.


The fact is, rxvt upstream is dead, dead, dead. It has shuffled off this 
mortal coil.  Joined the choir invisible. It is an EX-terminal. The 
terminal is terminal.


Frankly, I prefer rxvt-unicode on X -- even in non-unicode mode -- 
because it's actively maintained upstream.   That's why I also maintain 
THAT package for cygwin.  Being monolingual, I can't vouch for the 
actual unicode support as I never use anything other than ASCII and US 
english.  For US/en input and non-unicode display, it works well and I 
use it daily.  For unicode display, it seems alright if you work very 
hard -- that is, read LOTS of FM and do LOTS of STFW -- at getting 
appropriate fonts installed.  For input other than US/en, I've had mixed 
success using US-intl kbd -- but then, I'm not really certain what true 
success should look like.  Please see /usr/share/doc/rxvt-unicode-7.7/* 
and /usr/share/doc/Cygwin/rxvt-unicode-X-7.7.README.


Concerning cygwin's rxvt-unicode-X: Yes, yes, I know: I need to update 
from 7.7 to 8.x.  But there's two problems there: (1) I need to forward 
port Wolff's unicode shims, and I'm not looking forward to that, and (2) 
I don't know what's going on with cygwin-1.7.0; IIRC there was talk -- 
just TALK -- about switching over to the *W win32api functions instead 
of the *A win32api ones.  Is that actually going to happen?  Will that 
affect the shims?  Obsolete them?  Require changes?  I dunno -- and I 
don't want to waste time on it before 1.7.0 is released.



rxvt is not an X package...


rxvt could run in X, but I agree it has a win32-specific chunk of code.

However, the last I read of _that_ was that it was no longer supported.
For example

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2006-05/msg2.html


Wait: an announcement of a release (and not even the most recent 
announcement) is your evidence that a package is unmaintained?  Isn't 
that a bit backwards?


Granted, there have been only a few releases since I picked up that 
package: the one you mention last May, two last June, and the most 
recent last December.


All three updates were specifically in response to bug reports. *BUGS* I 
try to fix, if I have time.  *PATCHES* to fix existing bugs are even 
better.  But since the upstream is dead, there's no real impetus for 
releasing new versions -- except when bugs are reported or patches are 
provided.


Helping people fix their borked-up Xserver is not my bag.  Nor is 
providing the same old answer to the same old questions, that could be 
answered by reading any one of

  (a) the man page
  (b) the shipped documentation (/usr/share/doc/Cygwin/rxvt* and
  /usr/share/doc/rxvt-*/*)
  (c) or if the questioner would simple STFW.
or simply spending some time testing a few alternatives rather than 
running to the mailing list at the first sign of difficulty.  Like 
everyone else, my time for cygwin is a scarce resource -- I prefer to 
spend it on coding, bugfixing or functionality improvements (recently, 
gcc-4.x and, separately, libtool-2.x) than pretending to be a human 
interface to the man pages and READMEs.



google's not showing me a recent maintainer for the code.


Hmm. 
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:cygwin.com+inurl:cygwin-announce+rxvt+20050409hl=enfilter=0


rxvt-20050409-4
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2006-12/msg00018.html

rxvt-20050409-3 (and also belatedly mentioned the unannounced -2)
http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2006-06/msg4.html

Also:
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2006-05/msg00036.html
was only a year ago.

If there's no maintainer, it's not supported, no matter what the mailing 
list is. 


Your algorithm for determining which packages are maintained and which 
are not seems somewhat suspect.


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startx fork() problem with Vista and solution

2007-05-05 Thread Joel Eidsath

I'm running a fairly vanilla install of Windows Vista and had the
fork() error with startx that has been previously reported. I would
run startx and it would only successfully start up every second time I
tried to run it, otherwise giving the fork() error.

The solution was to run rebaseall. Unfortunately, this didn't work
right away. It bombed out with error 6 on several files --
cygcrypto-0.9.8.dll, cygcrypt-0.dll and cygz.dll. I moved each of
these to a temporary directory to get rebaseall to run.

This fixed the fork() problem with startx.

Is rebaseall called by setup at any time? (I know the documentation,
which seems old, says not.) If so, then these error 6 problems may
be bombing it out.

Joel Eidsath

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