Re: xterm doesn't open on start (was: checkX problems)

2009-12-03 Thread Lothar Brendel

Christopher Faylor wrote:

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 12:25:14AM +0100, Lothar Brendel wrote:

More information as promised, after getting the new run and checkX
(run2) packages announced this morning.

$ checkX -v
run2 0.3.2


0.3.2 announced? I didn't get any such message, and setup still only
offers 
0.3.1-1 to me.


http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-announce/2009-12/msg2.html
http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2009-12/msg00079.html


Thanx. I had just focused on cygwin-xfree, but indeed run2 is more general.

Ciao
   Lothar


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Re: X11R7.5 and C.UTF-8

2009-12-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec  3 07:48, Andy Koppe wrote:
 2009/12/3 Linda Walsh:
  C.UTF_8 doesn't exist.
 
 Well, guess what: it does in Cygwin 1.7, and it's the default locale.

Not exactly.  The default locale is C.UTF-8.  You can also use C.UTF8
or C.utf-8 or C.utf8, but not C.UTF_8 or C.utf_8.


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Re: X11R7.5 and C.UTF-8

2009-12-03 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009, Andy Koppe wrote:


2009/12/3 Linda Walsh:

C.UTF_8 doesn't exist.

...

You can't have C and UTF-8, because C means no encoding (default).
UTF-8 IS an encoding, so they are mutually exclusive.


From http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html,
§7.2:

The tables in Locale Definition describe the characteristics and
behavior of the POSIX locale for data consisting entirely of
characters from the portable character set and the control character
set. For other characters, the behavior is unspecified.

This means that characters 0..127 have to be treated as ASCII, but
beyond that an implementation can do what it wants. And on Cygwin 1.7,
plain C actually does imply UTF-8, which happily is
backward-compatible with ASCII.


That's an interpretation that so far hasn't been blessed by the standards
people.  Any discussion of this topic should mention that, as a caveat.

ymmv

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Re: X11R7.5 and C.UTF-8

2009-12-03 Thread Andy Koppe
2009/12/3 Thomas Dickey:
 From
 http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html,
 §7.2:

 The tables in Locale Definition describe the characteristics and
 behavior of the POSIX locale for data consisting entirely of
 characters from the portable character set and the control character
 set. For other characters, the behavior is unspecified.

 This means that characters 0..127 have to be treated as ASCII, but
 beyond that an implementation can do what it wants. And on Cygwin 1.7,
 plain C actually does imply UTF-8, which happily is
 backward-compatible with ASCII.

 That's an interpretation that so far hasn't been blessed by the standards
 people.  Any discussion of this topic should mention that, as a caveat.

Fair point. It also means that apps are entitled to assume that C
supports no more than ASCII, which is why Cygwin 1.7's default locale
is C.UTF-8. A default locale setting based on the user's language
selection would be better, but we don't have that (yet?).

Andy

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Re: X11R7.5 and C.UTF-8

2009-12-03 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Dec  3 13:16, Andy Koppe wrote:
 2009/12/3 Thomas Dickey:
  From
  http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap07.html,
  §7.2:
 
  The tables in Locale Definition describe the characteristics and
  behavior of the POSIX locale for data consisting entirely of
  characters from the portable character set and the control character
  set. For other characters, the behavior is unspecified.
 
  This means that characters 0..127 have to be treated as ASCII, but
  beyond that an implementation can do what it wants. And on Cygwin 1.7,
  plain C actually does imply UTF-8, which happily is
  backward-compatible with ASCII.
 
  That's an interpretation that so far hasn't been blessed by the standards
  people.  Any discussion of this topic should mention that, as a caveat.
 
 Fair point. It also means that apps are entitled to assume that C
 supports no more than ASCII, which is why Cygwin 1.7's default locale
 is C.UTF-8. A default locale setting based on the user's language
 selection would be better, but we don't have that (yet?).

Try the attached.  Note:  It has a hidden --testloop option...


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#define WINVER 0x0600
#include stdio.h
#include windows.h
#include getopt.h

#define VERSION  1.0

extern char *__progname;

void version () __attribute__ ((noreturn));
void usage (FILE *, int) __attribute__ ((noreturn));

void
version ()
{
  printf (%s (Cygwin) %s\n, __progname, VERSION);
  exit (0);
}

void
usage (FILE * stream, int status)
{
  fprintf (stream, \n\
Usage: %s [-suU] [-l LCID]\n\
\n\
Return POSIX LANG identifier corresponding to a locale, default is the\n\
system default locale\n\
Possible options are:\n\
\n\
  -s, --system  return LANG for the system's default locale\n\
  -u, --userreturn LANG for the current user's default locale\n\
  -l, --lcid LCID   return LANG for the LCID given as argument\n\
  -U, --UTF-8   always attach .UTF-8 to LANG\n\
  -h, --helpthis text\n\
  -V, --version print the version of %s and exit\n,
	   __progname, __progname);
  exit (status);
}

struct option longopts[] = {
  {system, no_argument, NULL, 's'},
  {user, no_argument, NULL, 'u'},
  {lcid, required_argument, NULL, 'l'},
  {UTF-8, no_argument, NULL, 'U'},
  {help, no_argument, NULL, 'h'},
  {version, no_argument, NULL, 'V'},
  {testloop, no_argument, NULL, 'T'},
  {0, no_argument, NULL, 0}
};
char *opts = dsul:UhV;

int
getlocale (LCID lcid, bool utf, bool test)
{
  UINT codepage;
  char iso639[10];
  char iso3166[10];

  if (!GetLocaleInfo (lcid, LOCALE_IDEFAULTANSICODEPAGE | LOCALE_RETURN_NUMBER,
		  (char *) codepage, sizeof codepage)
  || !GetLocaleInfo (lcid, LOCALE_SISO639LANGNAME, iso639, 10)
  || !GetLocaleInfo (lcid, LOCALE_SISO3166CTRYNAME, iso3166, 10))
{
  if (!test)
fprintf (stderr, %s: Non existant locale\n, __progname);
  return 2;
}
  if (utf)
codepage = 0;
  if (test)
{
  char cty[256];
  char lang[256];
  GetLocaleInfo (lcid, LOCALE_SENGCOUNTRY, cty, 256);
  GetLocaleInfo (lcid, LOCALE_SENGLANGUAGE, lang, 256);
  printf (0x%04x=\%s_%s\, %s (%s)\n, (unsigned) lcid, iso639, iso3166,
	  lang, cty);
}
  else
printf (LANG=\%s_%s%s\\n, iso639, iso3166, codepage ?  : .UTF-8);
  return 0;
}

#define d(X)	{X, #X}
struct dl {
  LCTYPE t;
  const char *s;
} dlist[] = {
  d(LOCALE_SLONGDATE),
  d(LOCALE_SSHORTDATE),
  d(LOCALE_STIMEFORMAT),
  d(LOCALE_SYEARMONTH),
  d(LOCALE_S1159),
  d(LOCALE_S2359),
  d(LOCALE_SDAYNAME1),
  d(LOCALE_SDAYNAME2),
  d(LOCALE_SDAYNAME3),
  d(LOCALE_SDAYNAME4),
  d(LOCALE_SDAYNAME5),
  d(LOCALE_SDAYNAME6),
  d(LOCALE_SDAYNAME7),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME1),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME2),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME3),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME4),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME5),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME6),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVDAYNAME7),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME1),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME2),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME3),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME4),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME5),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME6),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME7),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME8),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME9),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME10),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME11),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME12),
  d(LOCALE_SMONTHNAME13),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME1),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME2),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME3),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME4),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME5),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME6),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME7),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME8),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME9),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME10),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME11),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME12),
  d(LOCALE_SABBREVMONTHNAME13),
  { 0, NULL }
};

int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
  int opt;
  LCID lcid = LOCALE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT;
  bool utf = false;
  bool test = false;
  bool dates = false;

  while ((opt = getopt_long (argc, argv, opts, longopts, NULL)) != EOF)
switch (opt)
  {

1.7 - what's the right way to start X?

2009-12-03 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
What is the recommended/preferred way to start X in 1.7? In 1.5
I used a modified version of startxwin.bat. And where do I 
put my .xinitrc/.xsession script?
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Re: 1.7 - what's the right way to start X?

2009-12-03 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin X)

On 12/03/2009 04:07 PM, Fredrik Staxeng wrote:

What is the recommended/preferred way to start X in 1.7? In 1.5
I used a modified version of startxwin.bat. And where do I
put my .xinitrc/.xsession script?


What about startxwin.bat doesn't work for you?  There shouldn't be
differences between 1.5 and 1.7 here.

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cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread wgweis

Hi:
   I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any replies. 
If this is the wrong place to post this,

please let me know where I should.

Thanks

Hi All:
   This is my first post here.  I've never had a problem I couldn't fix
with cygwin-x before.
   Here is the deal:

I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
version 6.1.
I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)

I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a cmd
window to get the error output:

C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat

and see this:

/usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

this seems to be coming from this command in the batch file:
:\Users\princessC:\cygwin\bin\\..\bin\run -p /usr/bin xterm -e
/usr/bin/bash -

usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0


If I kill the server and run the script again, I'll get a
STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION error, indicating
some sort of shared memory corruption.  I then have to restart the PC.  I
checked to see if there
was more than one cygwin1.dll in response to earlier posts about this error
and there is only one.

I tried turning off the windows firewall.  That helps in other ways, because
other cygwin network
utilities, such as nslookup were blocked until I did that.

I tried changing the display from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the
machine.

Basically, I have a fresh machine with windows 7 and a fresh install of
cygwin and I can't get
xterm to work.  Anyone have any ideas?  Or is this just a windows 7 thing,
and I'll have to give
up on cygwin-x for a while?

BTW, other shortcuts in the cygwin-x start folder work, such as bitmap and
xcalc, just not the
Xwin server and xterm.

Thanks in advance,

George



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Re: 1.7 - what's the right way to start X?

2009-12-03 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
Larry Hall (Cygwin X) reply-to-list-only-l...@cygwin.com writes:

On 12/03/2009 04:07 PM, Fredrik Staxeng wrote:
 What is the recommended/preferred way to start X in 1.7? In 1.5
 I used a modified version of startxwin.bat. And where do I
 put my .xinitrc/.xsession script?

What about startxwin.bat doesn't work for you?  There shouldn't be
differences between 1.5 and 1.7 here.

Well, I did not find it, so I assumed it had been replaced with 
something better. Something that 
a) does not pop up a command window and
b) calls .xinitrc or something

I have to admit I did not look at the Cygwin site before posting the
question. I did so after, and saw the Cygwin/X section.

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RE: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of wgw...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:47 PM

 I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any
 replies.
 If this is the wrong place to post this,
 please let me know where I should.

This is the place, but I don't know how many of us have tried using 64 
bit Windows 7 yet.  I know I haven't, but I'll offer advice anyway.  (What's 
the smiley for evil leer?)

  I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
 version 6.1.
 I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
 running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)
 
 I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a
 cmd
 window to get the error output:
 
 C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat
 
 and see this:
 
 /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
 
 this seems to be coming from this command in the batch file:
 :\Users\princessC:\cygwin\bin\\..\bin\run -p /usr/bin xterm -e
 /usr/bin/bash -
 
 usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

...implying that the server didn't start.

 If I kill the server and run the script again, I'll get a
 STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION error, indicating
 some sort of shared memory corruption.  I then have to restart the PC.
 I
 checked to see if there
 was more than one cygwin1.dll in response to earlier posts about this
 error
 and there is only one.
 
 I tried turning off the windows firewall.  That helps in other ways,
 because
 other cygwin network
 utilities, such as nslookup were blocked until I did that.

 I tried changing the display from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the
 machine.

I believe the X server listens on 0.0.0.0, so that shouldn't make a 
difference.

 Basically, I have a fresh machine with windows 7 and a fresh install of
 cygwin and I can't get
 xterm to work.  Anyone have any ideas?  Or is this just a windows 7
 thing,
 and I'll have to give
 up on cygwin-x for a while?
 
 BTW, other shortcuts in the cygwin-x start folder work, such as bitmap
 and
 xcalc, just not the
 Xwin server and xterm.

How can xcalc work if the server doesn't start?!

Please send your /var/log/XWin0.log and cygcheck.out (cygcheck -s -v -r 
cygcheck.out) as attachments in the hope that they will inspire.


Thanks,

Mike



RE: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of wgw...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:47 PM

 I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any
 replies.
 If this is the wrong place to post this,
 please let me know where I should.

This is the right place, but it's possible none of us with time to 
spare has run on Windows 7 64 bit yet.
 
  I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
 version 6.1.
 I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
 running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)
 
 I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a
 cmd
 window to get the error output:
 
 C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat
 
 and see this:
 
 /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
 
 this seems to be coming from this command in the batch file:
 :\Users\princessC:\cygwin\bin\\..\bin\run -p /usr/bin xterm -e
 /usr/bin/bash -
 
 usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

...implying that the server didn't start.  Did you run as administrator?

 I
 checked to see if there
 was more than one cygwin1.dll in response to earlier posts about this
 error
 and there is only one.
 
 I tried turning off the windows firewall.  That helps in other ways,
 because
 other cygwin network
 utilities, such as nslookup were blocked until I did that.

 I tried changing the display from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the
 machine.

I believe the X server listens on 0.0.0.0, so that shouldn't make a 
difference.

 Basically, I have a fresh machine with windows 7 and a fresh install of
 cygwin and I can't get
 xterm to work.  Anyone have any ideas?  Or is this just a windows 7
 thing,
 and I'll have to give
 up on cygwin-x for a while?
 
 BTW, other shortcuts in the cygwin-x start folder work, such as bitmap
 and
 xcalc, just not the
 Xwin server and xterm.

How can xcalc work if the server doesn't start?!

Please send your /var/log/XWin0.log and cygcheck.out (cygcheck -s -v -r 
cygcheck.out) as attachments in the hope that they will inspire.


Thanks,

Mike



FW: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers



 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of wgw...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:47 PM

 I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any
 replies.
 If this is the wrong place to post this,
 please let me know where I should.

This is the right place, but it's possible none of us with time to 
spare has run on Windows 7 64 bit yet.
 
  I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
 version 6.1.
 I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
 running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)
 
 I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a
 cmd
 window to get the error output:
 
 C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat
 
 and see this:
 
 /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
 
 this seems to be coming from this command in the batch file:
 :\Users\princessC:\cygwin\bin\\..\bin\run -p /usr/bin xterm -e
 /usr/bin/bash -
 
 usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

...implying that the server didn't start.  Did you run as administrator?

 I
 checked to see if there
 was more than one cygwin1.dll in response to earlier posts about this
 error
 and there is only one.
 
 I tried turning off the windows firewall.  That helps in other ways,
 because
 other cygwin network
 utilities, such as nslookup were blocked until I did that.

 I tried changing the display from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the
 machine.

I believe the X server listens on 0.0.0.0, so that shouldn't make a 
difference.

 Basically, I have a fresh machine with windows 7 and a fresh install of
 cygwin and I can't get
 xterm to work.  Anyone have any ideas?  Or is this just a windows 7
 thing,
 and I'll have to give
 up on cygwin-x for a while?
 
 BTW, other shortcuts in the cygwin-x start folder work, such as bitmap
 and
 xcalc, just not the
 Xwin server and xterm.

How can xcalc work if the server doesn't start?!

Please send your /var/log/XWin0.log and cygcheck.out (cygcheck -s -v -r 
cygcheck.out) as attachments in the hope that they will inspire.


Thanks,

Mike



Re: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Mike Ayers mike_ay...@tvworks.com wrote:

 This is the right place, but it's possible none of us with time to spare has 
 run on Windows 7 64 bit yet.

I'm running Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit.  I have been using Cygwin
1.7 with latest X, etc. for some time without any problems.  I haven't
done anything special, so I haven't run into any of the same problems
as the OP.

- Jim

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Re: xterm doesn't open on start

2009-12-03 Thread Linda Walsh

Timares, Brian (Patriot) wrote:

Any other ideas?  I keep updating but so far all I can do is launch
an Xterm manually and clean up, then everything seems fine til the
next time I relaunch it.

---
Do you have
DISPLAY=:0
set in your Windows environment?

(system properties, Advanced, Env Vars).
I put mine in the System Environment so it's
there no matter how I'm logged in.


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RE: FW: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor

 You really only need to send this type of thing once.  Three times is
 overkill.

The first two came back to me from cygwin-xfree-retur...@cygwin.com 
addresses with the first part garbled, so I thought they were mangled by my 
mailer and not getting sent to the list.  Apologies for the inconvenience - 
still not sure what happened.


Mike



RE: xterm doesn't open on start

2009-12-03 Thread Timares, Brian (Harris Corp.)
Linda Walsh wrote:
Timares, Brian (Patriot) wrote:
 Any other ideas?  I keep updating but so far all I can do is launch
 an Xterm manually and clean up, then everything seems fine til the
 next time I relaunch it.

   Do you have
DISPLAY=:0
set in your Windows environment?

I didn't, but I do now.

I am forced to use Outlook so I forwarded the more extensive email to my
personal account so I can edit it more easily/correctly and because my
work got pretty busy.

I reverted to 1.5 to see if that would work better, it doesn't really,
so I'll try to install 1.7 in parallel when I get a chance (I have
servers doing things now so I have to let it alone for awhile).

I do appreciate all the terrific replies--I've been on the net for
awhile and this is one of the friendliest lists I've been on.


Brian Timares
oh and then there is the 7-year-old, he is taking lots of time :)

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Re: xterm doesn't open on start

2009-12-03 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin X)

On 12/03/2009 10:47 PM, Timares, Brian (Harris Corp.) wrote:

I do appreciate all the terrific replies--I've been on the net for
awhile and this is one of the friendliest lists I've been on.


Do you mind if I frame this and hang it on the Cygwin home page. ;-)

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Re: X11R7.5 and C.UTF-8

2009-12-03 Thread Eric Blake
Thomas Dickey dickey at his.com writes:

  This means that characters 0..127 have to be treated as ASCII, but

No, it means that portable characters and control characters must be  128.  
ASCII meets this characteristic, but so does EBCDIC, as well as UTF-8.  The C 
locale also implies that you can manipulate bytes = 128 in the naive manner, 
so long as you don't care about characters embedded in those bytes.  And what 
do you know - ASCII, EBCDIC, and UTF-8 all meet this property, too.

  beyond that an implementation can do what it wants. And on Cygwin 1.7,
  plain C actually does imply UTF-8, which happily is
  backward-compatible with ASCII.
 
 That's an interpretation that so far hasn't been blessed by the standards
 people.  Any discussion of this topic should mention that, as a caveat.

Actually, the standards people HAVE spoken - and they agreed with our 
interpretation.  POSIX was INTENTIONALLY written with the intent that a UTF-8 
encoding is valid for the C locale, for the same reason that it was written 
that an EBCDIC encoding is valid for the C locale.  These emails from the 
Austin Group (the folks that write POSIX) are telling:

https://www.opengroup.org/sophocles/show_mail.tpl?
CALLER=show_archive.tplsource=Llistname=austin-group-lid=12982

https://www.opengroup.org/sophocles/show_mail.tpl?
CALLER=show_archive.tplsource=Llistname=austin-group-lid=13012

But they also admitted that there is still more work needed in POSIX to make 
this intent clearly codified (for example, that control characters must be 
single bytes  128).

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Re: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Reid Thompson

wgw...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Hi:
   I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any replies. 
If this is the wrong place to post this,

please let me know where I should.

Thanks

Hi All:
   This is my first post here.  I've never had a problem I couldn't fix
with cygwin-x before.
   Here is the deal:

I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
version 6.1.
I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)

I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a cmd
window to get the error output:

C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat


try this -- edit /usr/bin/startxwin.bat and put a 5 second sleep between the call to Xwin and the call to 
xterm, and see what happens



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