Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread amorphia


Christopher Faylor-8 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:04:08AM -0800, amorphia wrote:
Can I plead for developers, please please don't make setup.exe broken? I
am
sure there are many many users like me who don't expect to have to be
monitoring some random mailing lists in order to work out what else you
need
to do when running setup.exe with default options. Fine, if you make a
mistake with dependencies. But I think there must be a lot of other people
out there like me who are tech savvy enough to need cygwin but not tech
savvy enough for it to be a walk in the park when this happens, so surely
it's not OK to deliberately alter cygwin so that setup.exe no longer
installs everything you need for the most basic purpose, i.e. opening an
xterm window?
 
 Huh?  This should be a typical scenario wherein you report a *problem*
 and hope that someone will be available to help you fix it.  Once it is
 fixed, then theoretically it will no longer be a problem.
 Characterising this as somehow intentional or as the result of
 inattention is insulting and counterproductive.
 
 

Apologies for causing offence. I have the utmost respect and gratitude for
developers of free software, and I've never come across another scientific
researcher who includes such acknowledgements in articles for publication,
as I do.

As I wrote: if this was a mistake, then fair enough. I reckoned it probably
wasn't a mistake, because in the release notes for the package:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2008-11/msg0.html

it clearly states that the package doesn't provide everything it needs to
work. I assumed that whoever incorporated the package into setup.exe would
have carefully read those notes. I might be wrong, or I might have
misunderstood something else, if so I apologise. But if I'm not wrong, then
this was rather careless.

Please note when judging me that the main point of my post was to provide an
(albeit inelegant) solution to a problem. The plea was made in passing.

Cheers,

Ben
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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread Rajesh Advani


Dan Moulding wrote:
 
 I typically update my Cygwin installations about once a month, and
 rarely run into any difficulties. However, this morning after updating
 I could no longer start any X applications due to some apparent font
 problems. Please note that I successfully installed the *new* Cygwin/X
 a couple of months ago, and previously resolved some of the seemingly
 more common font problems (like boxes showing up in emacs).
 
 This time, I was getting Unable to load any usable iso8859 font
 errors anytime I'd try to start xterm.
 

I had the exact same problem, and a couple of others including missing adobe 
fonts.
Here are the packages I installed, to get over font related issues. I may have 
installed a few extra ones.

font-adobe-dpi100 - To fix the adobe font issues
font-adobe-dpi75  - To fix the adobe font issues
font-bitstream-dpi100 - Just in case
font-bitstream-dpi75 - Just in case
font-bitstream-type1 - Just in case
font-bitstream-vera-ttf - Just in case
font-misc-misc - I think I read something somewhere on the internet which led 
me to install this. Don't remember.
xorg-scripts - I had trouble with xinit - (specifically the X Win Server 
shortcut not working from D drive which I've mentioned in another post)

I don't think I installed anything else other than the default upgrade options.

If someone can tell me how to retrieve a list of all installed packages on my 
system, I can send that over too.

Rajesh



  

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Re: rgb.txt not honored in X7?

2009-02-04 Thread Jared Silva
Mike Ayers wrote:
 Which is the new location?  I've been looking in the manual and
 FAQ, but seem to have acquired an embarassing blind spot that prevents
 me from knowing where to put startup files.  Also, is .Xresources now
 .Xdefaults?

/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

I never used .Xresources, so I am not sure.

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Re: rgb.txt not honored in X7?

2009-02-04 Thread Jon TURNEY
If you are *really* using X7, then your problem is probably that colour wasn't 
supported until X9, see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System#Release_history


However, I suspect you mean X version 11 release 7 :-)

Jared Silva wrote:

In Cygwin X11R6 and Exceed 10, the additional colors in my rgb.txt
file are used.  However, in Cygwin X11R7, even though the rgb.txt file
is the same, but in the new location, the additional colors do not
seem to be used.  In Cygwin X11R6 and Exceed 10, I see the many
different colors, but in Cygwin X11R7, all I see are different shades
of gray.

Any help is greatly appreciated.


How about a testcase?

$ xlogo -fg palevioletred -bg goldenrod
for e.g. works as expected for me

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Re: rgb.txt not honored in X7?

2009-02-04 Thread Jon TURNEY

Mike Ayers wrote:



  However, in Cygwin X11R7, even though the rgb.txt file
is the same, but in the new location,


Which is the new location?  I've been looking in the manual and FAQ, 
but seem to have acquired an embarassing blind spot that prevents me from 
knowing where to put startup files.


/usr/share/X11/rgb.txt

This is mentioned in the FILES section of 'man Xserver',
The '.txt' seems to be missing for some reason from the description of the 
'-co' option.



 Also, is .Xresources now .Xdefaults?


.Xdefaults is read by X libraries by default

.Xresources is xrdb -merge'd by /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc (i.e. if you use startx)

I don't think anything has changed.

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Re: X / gtk-x11 / flicker and other problems

2009-02-04 Thread John Emmas

May I say in its defence (after a bit more experimenting) that when
comparing Cygwin-X/gtk-x11 against gtk-win32, X's text handling is
noticeably superior at high resolutions (at least, on my system).  With my
monitor set to 1600x1200, Cygwin-X's text is still crisp and clear - whereas
gtk-win32's looks decidedly fuzzy.

Anyway, I wanted to try working in 'rooted' mode to see if this would
improve the flickering that I reported yesterday.  Normally I start X just
by running the batch file startxwin.bat.  Looking in that file I can see
that the command to start X is:-

%RUN% XWin -multiwindow -multiplemonitors -clipboard -silent-dup-error

Perhaps naively I figure that if I changed it to this:-

%RUN% XWin -clipboard -silent-dup-error

I'd get a single monitor in the 'rooted' mode that John referred to
yesterday (i.e. able to use DirectDraw).  However, there seems to be more to
it than that.  The above line causes xserver to run in a very flickery
window, as if something isn't set up properly.

What do I need to do to see the DirectDraw feature in action?

John


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Re: Semaphore handle leaks in WindowMaker with latest Xorg distribution

2009-02-04 Thread Dr. Volker Zell
 Yaakov  writes:

 Dr. Volker Zell wrote:
 After switching to the latest Xorg packages (still under cygwin-1.5),
 WindowMaker-0.90.0-2 stops working after more or less 36 hours continues
 uptime of my laptop. When this happens I see the following in a bash 
window
 from where I started my X environment via startx:

 Can you confirm that libX11_6-1.1.5-2 fixes this?

Yes it's fixed.

By the way could you promote your latest ports WindowMaker to the
distro ?

 Yaakov
 Cygwin/X

Ciao
  Volker
  

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Re: Semaphore handle leaks in WindowMaker with latest Xorg distribution

2009-02-04 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
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Dr. Volker Zell wrote:
 Yes it's fixed.

Great; thanks for the detailed bug report.

 By the way could you promote your latest ports WindowMaker to the
 distro ?

I'll add it to the queue. :-)


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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin X)

Rajesh Advani wrote:

If someone can tell me how to retrieve a list of all installed packages
on  my system,...


This link is a hint:


Problem reports:   http://cygwin.com/problems.html



But if you just want a list (with versions), cygcheck -cd is what you're
looking for.


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Re: rgb.txt not honored in X7?

2009-02-04 Thread Jared Silva
Colin Harrison wrote:
 Isn't -co and rgb.txt dead now in X.Org? i.e. no external rgb database
 anymore

Then how do you add colors?

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Re: rgb.txt not honored in X7?

2009-02-04 Thread Jared Silva
Jon TURNEY wrote:
 However, I suspect you mean X version 11 release 7 :-)

Yes, X11R7 :)

 How about a testcase?

 $ xlogo -fg palevioletred -bg goldenrod
 for e.g. works as expected for me

$ xlogo -bg S_AckMed
Warning: Color name S_AckMed is not defined
Warning: Cannot convert string xlogo32 to type Pixmap

$ showrgb | grep S_AckMed
255 230  31 S_AckMed

What next?

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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread Matt Stave
I hope this isn't a double post, my 1st msg was bounced for having
some sort in inline html.  Anyway, I'm having the same issue.  I
upgraded and now X doesn't start, and has the same error.   I tried
reinstalling fonts, adding additional fonts, etc.  Even renaming my
cygwin and download dirs and creating a fresh (unless there were
registry hooks from beyond the grave) install, same issue.I read
the upgrade info, but to my limited understanding the known issue were
around custom startup scripts, while I just use the vanilla stuff
that's provied. If I start the server from the start menu icon,
the server loads, but no x apps load.  If, for example, from bash I
try and start xterm, I get a msg about display not set, which I fix,
and then:

$ xterm
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
Error: Aborting: no font found

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Here's the error when I use startx instead: (and log file at the bottom).

$ startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/mstave/.serverauth.9888

/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: line 47: twm: command not found
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: line 48: xclock: command not found
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 fontWarning: Warning:
Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
Error: Aborting: no font foundError: Aborting: no font found
Aborting: no font found



waiting for X server to shut down .
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Here's what I have installed - my apologies if there's more here than's needed.

Cygwin Package Information
Package  Version
_update-info-dir 00796-1
alternatives 1.3.30c-2
ash  20040127-4
autossh  1.4b-1
base-files   3.7-1
base-passwd  2.2-1
bash 3.2.48-21
bash-completion  20060301-2
bzip21.0.5-2
coreutils6.10-2
crypt1.1-1
csih 0.1.8-1
cygrunsrv1.34-1
cygutils 1.3.2-1
cygwin   1.5.25-15
cygwin-doc   1.4-4
diffutils2.8.7-1
e2fsprogs1.35-3
editrights   1.01-2
expat2.0.1-1
findutils4.4.0-3
font-adobe-dpi1001.0.0-1
font-alias   1.0.1-1
font-bh-dpi100   1.0.0-1
font-encodings   1.0.2-1
fontconfig   2.6.0-1
gawk 3.1.6-1
grep 2.5.3-1
groff1.19.2-2
gzip 1.3.12-2
inetutils1.5-4
less 382-1
libbz2_1 1.0.5-2
libdb4.5 4.5.20.2-2
libexpat12.0.1-1
libexpat1-devel  2.0.1-1
libfontconfig1   2.6.0-1
libfontenc1  1.0.4-2
libfreetype262.3.8-1
libfreetype6 2.3.8-1
libgdbm4 1.8.3-8
libGL1   7.2-2
libICE6  1.0.4-2
libiconv21.12-1
libintl2 0.12.1-3
libintl3 0.14.5-1
libintl8 0.17-3
libncurses8  5.5-3
libpcre0 7.8-1
libpixman1_0 0.12.0-1
libpopt0 1.6.4-4
libreadline6 5.2.13-11
libSM6   1.1.0-1
libwrap0 7.6-4
libX11_6 1.1.5-2
libXau6  1.0.4-1
libXaw7  1.0.5-1
libxcb-xlib0 1.1-2
libxcb1  1.1-2
libXdmcp61.0.2-3
libXext6 1.0.4-1
libXft2  2.1.13-1
libxkbfile1  1.0.5-2
libXmu6  1.0.4-1
libXmuu1 1.0.4-1
libXpm4  3.5.7-2
libXrender1  0.9.4-2
libXt6   1.0.5-2
login1.9-8
luit 1.0.3-1
man  1.6e-1
minires  1.02-1
mkfontdir1.0.4-1
mkfontscale  1.0.5-1
ncftp3.2.1-1
openssh  5.1p1-10
openssl  0.9.8j-1
perl 5.10.0-5
ping 1.0-1
rebase   2.4.4-1
rgb  1.0.3-1
rsync3.0.4-1
run  1.1.10-1
sed  4.1.5-2
tar  1.21-1
termcap  20050421-1
terminfo 5.5_20061104-1
texinfo  4.8a-1
tzcode   2008h-1
util-linux   2.14.1-1
which2.20-1
X-start-menu-icons   1.0.4-1
xauth1.0.3-1
xcursor-themes   1.0.1-1
xinit1.1.1-1
xkbcomp  1.0.5-1
xkeyboard-config 1.4-1
xman 1.0.3-3
xmodmap  1.0.3-1
xorg-server  1.5.3-5
xrdb 1.0.5-1
xterm238-1
zlib 1.2.3-2
zsync0.5-1

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XWin.0.log:
Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 1.5.3.0 (20090121)
Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/bin/X :0 -auth /home/mstave/.serverauth.9888

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1400 h 1050

Re: X / gtk-x11 / flicker and other problems

2009-02-04 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
John Emmas john...@tiscali.co.uk writes:

monitor set to 1600x1200, Cygwin-X's text is still crisp and clear - whereas
gtk-win32's looks decidedly fuzzy.

Cygwin-X uses bit-mapped fonts, with only black and white pixels, perhaps 
gtk-win32 uses some form of antialiasing? 
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Re: xinit requires util-linux which requires perl

2009-02-04 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
Mark Geisert m...@maxrnd.com writes:

In the interests of PTC I could try to figure out a better package to contain
chkdupexe, or mcookie for that matter.  Or recode chkdupexe as a shell script. 
Is anything else but startx using mcookie? If not, why not move it there.


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Cygwin-X on Windows 7 Beta Success!

2009-02-04 Thread Fredrik Staxeng
I have been running Cygwin with X on Windows 7 Beta for a few weeks. It works.
I think it works rather well considering what it does. 

I had to do the rebase/reinstall libncurses thing, but then most things work
with only a few problems.

First, the startxwin icon succeeds in bringing up the the X server, but
not the xterm. But when I run my start script from a Cygwin command prompt
it works.

Then, the first xterm appears instantly, but the second one takes a while
(half a minute?). This seems very strange to me, so perhaps I am 
imagining things.

Also, sometimes, e.g when running M-x grep in emacs, what look like 
command prompt windows flashes by quickly. They appear and then disappear.
This does not really bother me much, but it kills the show-off potential.
The audience would womder about those flashing windows and stop
paying attention to the good things.

Is there any way I could help with fixing these problems?



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Re: xinit requires util-linux which requires perl

2009-02-04 Thread Yaakov (Cygwin/X)
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Fredrik Staxeng wrote:
 Is anything else but startx using mcookie? If not, why not move it there.

Because mcookie comes from util-linux, not xinit, and that's where it's
going to stay.


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