Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xinit-1.3.4-1 (Major overhaul of X session handling)

2014-11-28 Thread Marco Atzeri

On 11/29/2014 3:05 AM, Nem W Schlecht wrote:

In reference to:

 * User-defined ~/.startxwinrc files must now be executable, the
final command therein must be run in the
 foreground, and that command's exiting will end the X session,
just like with startx and ~/.xinitrc or
 ~/.Xclients.

In most UNIX systems, this last command would be the window manager.
I'm not liking fbpanel (although I will give it a try) and I don't
like using an XTerm as my "last" command, since I often close/reopen
them all when making changes to my .bashrc/.bash_profile.

Are there any suggestions from the list for some *other* program that
won't use any resources that I can use as my final foreground command?
  I don't want it to do anything, just not let X11 exit.


xclock and xeye should be light enough

Regards
Marco

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xinit-1.3.4-1 (Major overhaul of X session handling)

2014-11-28 Thread Nem W Schlecht
In reference to:

* User-defined ~/.startxwinrc files must now be executable, the
final command therein must be run in the
foreground, and that command's exiting will end the X session,
just like with startx and ~/.xinitrc or
~/.Xclients.

In most UNIX systems, this last command would be the window manager.
I'm not liking fbpanel (although I will give it a try) and I don't
like using an XTerm as my "last" command, since I often close/reopen
them all when making changes to my .bashrc/.bash_profile.

Are there any suggestions from the list for some *other* program that
won't use any resources that I can use as my final foreground command?
 I don't want it to do anything, just not let X11 exit.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz  wrote:
> The following package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution:
>
> * xinit-1.3.4-1
>
> xinit contains commands used for starting X sessions.
>
> This is an update to the latest upstream release, and includes a number of
> major changes to X session handling:
>
> * startxwin is now a shell script instead of an executable; if you have any
> homemade links thereto, be sure to remember the .exe extension.
>
> * startxwin now automatically finds an unused DISPLAY number, just like
> startx.
>
> * startxwin now includes a default startxwinrc (if ~/.startxwinrc is absent)
> which launches a number of applicable "autostart" session services if
> present.
>
> * The new default startxwinrc also launches a miniature fbpanel in the upper
> left corner of the screen which contains an XDG application menu (the 'X'
> icon) for launching X applications, plus an on-demand area for X tray icons.
> After the first run, the panel and menu can be customized in
> ~/.config/fbpanel/multiwindow.
>
> * User-defined ~/.startxwinrc files must now be executable, the final
> command therein must be run in the foreground, and that command's exiting
> will end the X session, just like with startx and ~/.xinitrc or ~/.Xclients.
>
> * Both startx and startxwin now start a D-Bus session bus automatically.
>
> * X sessions (both multwindow and desktop) started with the newly revised
> Start Menu shortcuts now log stderr to ~/.xsession-errors.
>
> * startx now prefers ~/.Xclients (which must also be executable) instead of
> ~/.xinitrc; the latter can still be used, but doing so will override many of
> the new features mentioned here.
>
> * If startx is run from the command line and neither ~/.xinitrc nor
> ~/.Xclients are present, it will try to start a real desktop environment if
> present before falling back to twm/xterm.
>
> * startx and startxwin now pass '-nolisten tcp' to the server by default,
> which increases security in the X server by not opening a port to TCP
> connections.  The '-listen' flag can be passed as a server argument to
> override this.
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xinit-1.3.4-1 (Major overhaul of X session handling)

2014-11-28 Thread Ken Brown

On 11/27/2014 10:03 PM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:

* The new default startxwinrc also launches a miniature fbpanel in the
upper left corner of the screen which contains an XDG application menu
(the 'X' icon) for launching X applications, plus an on-demand area for
X tray icons.  After the first run, the panel and menu can be customized
in ~/.config/fbpanel/multiwindow.


This is not working well for me.  I've tested on both 32-bit and 64-bit 
Cygwin with no .startxwinrc and no .[xX]* files, and I've tested on two 
different computers (both running Windows 7).  I started the X server 
via the new start menu shortcut.


What happens is that a band appears across the bottom of the screen 
(full width), hiding about 2/3 of the taskbar.  This makes it impossible 
to access the icons on the right side of the taskbar.  Also, there's no 
X icon in the upper left corner of the screen.  But there is a large X 
icon in the taskbar, partially visible above the band, and when I mouse 
over it, I see a little window that says "X panel".  Closing this window 
makes the band go away.  So I guess this band is the miniature fbpanel 
referred to above, but it's appearing in the wrong place.


I don't see anything suspicious in XWin.0.log, but .xsession-errors 
says, "fbpanel: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on 
X server :0.".  But this only appears after I've exited the server, so 
maybe it's normal.


Finally, ~/.config/fbpanel/multiwindow exists but is empty.

Ken



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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xinit-1.3.4-1 (Major overhaul of X session handling)

2014-11-28 Thread Jon TURNEY

On 28/11/2014 08:45, Marco Atzeri wrote:

On 11/28/2014 4:03 AM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:

The following package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution:

* xinit-1.3.4-1

xinit contains commands used for starting X sessions.



noticed this new warning
xinit: XFree86_VT property unexpectedly has 0 items instead of 1

For what I see there is no XFree86_VT setting anywhere


xinit has been emitting this warning for a long time, it's just now you 
see it with startxwin.


It's entirely safe to ignore, but I guess we should do something to 
quench that warning to prevent confusion and alarm...


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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: xinit-1.3.4-1 (Major overhaul of X session handling)

2014-11-28 Thread Marco Atzeri



On 11/28/2014 4:03 AM, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote:

The following package has been updated in the Cygwin distribution:

* xinit-1.3.4-1

xinit contains commands used for starting X sessions.



noticed this new warning
xinit: XFree86_VT property unexpectedly has 0 items instead of 1

For what I see there is no XFree86_VT setting anywhere

Ideas ?

Marco


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