On 7/2/2015 7:27 PM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 04/06/2015 02:41, Eliot Moss wrote:
I just updated to the latest XWin and got some
different behaviors:
- In my .XWinrc file I was using MINIMIZE in the STYLES. This now seems
to permanently iconize a window. If I click on the icon, it briefly
-iconic on the particular
windows instead -- it does what I want anyway. But I thought you'd want
to know about MINIMIZE being weird. Not sure what happened with the height
thing ...
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On 2/18/2015 8:14 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 17/02/2015 20:35, Eliot Moss wrote:
Dear Cygwin X --
I have a situation where cygwin xemacs, both 21.4.23-1 and the newer
-2 crash when trying to open a file with certain content. (I copied
the file; opening it under the other name fails too.) It's
Dear Cygwin X --
I have a situation where cygwin xemacs, both 21.4.23-1 and the newer
-2 crash when trying to open a file with certain content. (I copied
the file; opening it under the other name fails too.) It's a
relatively small file, some .c source. The characters used are all
reasonable
the beginning, but you can have it run no programs and simply wait
for any X programs to come along.
If you run xlaunch with no arguments it pops up a short interactive
GUI for setting up the configuration. And of course man xlaunch
will tell you more.
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On 8/6/2012 8:04 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 03/08/2012 15:42, Eliot Moss wrote:
The patched run.exe seems to work for me as well.
Thanks for testing.
I am still uncertain if you are seeing the same, similar or a different
problem to me, though, so it would be helpful if you could confirm
The patched run.exe seems to work for me as well.
Thanks!Eliot
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to the taskbar I would
rather not see. Any thoughts as to why this is happening?
I am not sure the reason is known; a race condition has been
mentioned as a possibility. I solved this by using xlaunch,
and starting that with cygwin's run program.
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On 7/28/2012 8:15 AM, Paul Maier wrote:
Can you recommend me how to start the X Server without getting a task bar entry?
The cygwin program run.exe is designed to do just that.
It's what I use for this purpose :-) ...
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On 7/28/2012 8:57 AM, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 7/28/2012 8:15 AM, Paul Maier wrote:
Can you recommend me how to start the X Server without getting a task bar entry?
The cygwin program run.exe is designed to do just that.
It's what I use for this purpose :-) ...
... and I just tried
On 7/28/2012 9:08 AM, Paul Maier wrote:
The cygwin program run.exe is designed to do just that.
It's what I use for this purpose :-) ...
I was using run.exe too. run.exe used to hide the window and the task bar entry.
But since my upgrade from Cygwin 1.7.9 to 1.7.15, run.exe only hides the
Ok, I can see that perhaps in some ways I was being foolish and
could have figured out more of this myself. But here's something
interesting. I tried this:
- Pin to Start Menu of the supplied XLaunch short cut
- Edit to change the command to:
/usr/bin/xlaunch.exe -run
log file.
So, I think xlaunch is ok, but this was a surprising
difference :-) ...
Regards -- Eliot Moss
InitConnectionLimits: MaxClients = 255
Welcome to the XWin X Server
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Release: 1.12.0.0
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 [Windows NT 6.1 build 7601] (WoW64)
Snapshot
On 4/23/2012 12:41 PM, Eliot Moss wrote:
Ok -- by perusing the log I figured it out ...
In the past, .XWinrc names of files such as xterm
worked just fine. Apparently something changed about
the PATH used, and xterm was not being found. When
I write /usr/bin/xterm, it starts up. You can see
On 4/18/2012 4:13 AM, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 4/17/2012 7:51 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 11/04/2012 11:39, Eliot Moss wrote:
Thank you for following up, Jon!
The title of the window in question is StartXWin.
It has no perceivable content - I cannot de-iconize it.
Its only real evidence
On 4/19/2012 6:01 AM, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 4/18/2012 4:13 AM, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 4/17/2012 7:51 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 11/04/2012 11:39, Eliot Moss wrote:
1) As StartXWin starts, the screen flashes briefly, a common
artifact of run.exe.
2) Then the icon is *not* visible.
3) xorg
On 4/17/2012 7:51 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 11/04/2012 11:39, Eliot Moss wrote:
I'm still not entirely sure what process in running in this window you
complain of. Can you be say what the title and contents of this window are?
Thank you for following up, Jon!
The title of the window
In the end, I was able to address my xemacs initial window appearance
under cygwin xfree in this way:
1) First, xemacs does not handle -iconic or the iconized resource
properly. I found it best not to set them.
2) The command line -name argument will override all the X resources,
so if
issue with XWin when started under xlaunch can be resolved.
Regards, and thanks again for your efforts in maintaining
this complex beast!
Eliot Moss
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All I can really say is that it works for me. If run isn't doing it's job for
you, I don't know why.
You might like to take a look at using the xlaunch package to start your
Xserver and see if that behaves any better.
Ok ...
Does this suggest to you any other way that might work to get an
Thank you, Jon.
I am having more success in getting my initial windows looking
the way I think they should when I use xlaunch. However, at
present on my system xlaunch has one show stopper: When I start
XWin with it, XWin cannot start any items from the XWin menu
(the one set up by .XWinrc). I
On 4/7/2012 1:45 PM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 07/04/2012 17:45, Eliot Moss wrote:
I'm not sure if you are labouring under a misapprehension due to poor
documentation, or reporting a bug here.
The STYLE directive adjusts the window styling of all windows which match the
specified class or window
On 4/6/2012 1:01 PM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 05/04/2012 16:54, Eliot Moss wrote:
Something seems to have changed between the last 1.11 release and
the 1.12.0 (up through the 1.12.0-2 release made yesterday).
The window for StartXWin, which is minimized, did not previously
result in an X icon
MINIMIZE
xemacs1 MINIMIZE
}
==
These various commands / files all seem to be seen and used. And by the way,
the xemacs1 MINIMIZE does not seem to work -- it always starts maximized and I
have to minimize it manually. Hints on that?
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Dear Jon (et al.) -- On xorg-server 1.12.0-2, doing
a reload of .XWinrc via the .XWinrc menu cases an
exception that kills the X server. I does put up
an error window saying what happened (a
segmentation fault).
Regards -- Eliot Moss
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I think that's cutomization: -color (note the
dash), but yes :-) ... Eliot Moss
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On 10/31/2011 3:45 PM, Eliot Moss wrote:
I think that's customization: -color (note the
dash), but yes :-) ... Eliot Moss
Sheesh, I also typed it wrong, corrected above! EM
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Thanks, Jon, for the additional explanations! Eliot
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On 7/29/2011 3:16 AM, Csaba Raduly wrote:
Hi Eliot,
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Eliot Moss wrote:
Recently I started using startxwin and .XWinrc and am
getting used to -multiwindow mode. Something I have been
wondering is where the program icons actually come from.
For example, I cannot
Thanks for the tip about .xpm files!
-- Eliot
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, stylized red X and stylized white pdf).
Any hints? I've searched the usual places, and they don't
seem to be mentioned in the start menu builder either ...
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to start cygserver
as service. I don't know why, I want to enabel shared memory only.
While I am not knowledgeable in the details, I can (I hope)
clear up that point: cygwin shm support requires a background
server to help in the implementation.
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On 7/20/2011 11:28 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 19/07/2011 18:17, Eliot Moss wrote:
On 7/19/2011 10:24 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
The start menu shortcut for starting XWin in multiwindow mode installed by the
xinit package goes to some lengths to avoid lingering unnecessary windows
whilst setting up
that I don't get two instances,
one for the run.exe shortcut and another for the running XWin.
Is there another/better way I can arrange this?
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I wonder if the issue is that the less privileged user cannot create a log
file, socket, or similar thing is one of the usual places. This would look like
failure to create a lock file because another user has it open. Either way,
creating the lock file fails.
Regards -- Eliot Moss
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foo at bar instead
of f...@bar. I have suggested that the logs
output the email that way, but that suggestion
has not been taken up yet ...
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A little more on the 20101026 snapshot on my Windows 7
64-bit setup ...
Previous versions would sometimes cause a repaint of
the entire screen, that even earlier versions did not
do. (My user reaction was: That's a weird and
unnexessary screen repaint.)
These repaints would sometimes end by
On 10/26/2010 9:09 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 24/10/2010 00:00, Eliot Moss wrote:
Dear Jon -- The latest xorg and dlls, posted in the last
day, consistently cause my Window 7 64-bit laptop to drop
out of Aero mode if I put it in sleep mode and then wake
it up. Here are the .log file
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Ok ... the 20101026 snapshot works properly with -resize and
-engine 1 set: DWM does not go away or get complained about
if I sleep then unsleep. Yay!
I did notice one little thing: its log file seems to go to
/var/log/XWin.0.log rather than /var/log/xwin/XWin.0.log.
I include the -logverbose
Dear Jon -- The latest xorg and dlls, posted in the last
day, consistently cause my Window 7 64-bit laptop to drop
out of Aero mode if I put it in sleep mode and then wake
it up. Here are the .log file and the stderr output.
Regards -- Eliot Moss
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On 9/27/2010 10:53 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
There is a remaining issue -- which was there before but
which I had not posted about. If I Suspend/Resume, then
on resumption the driver disables the Aero theme and
points its finger at XWin.exe as the culprit, saying
it did something incompatible with
It turned out to be easy to get a log where the Aero
mode got turned off after a resume. Here it is (stderr
comes after it). Thanks -- Eliot
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Release: 1.8.2.0 (10802000)
Snapshot: 20100923-git-2172af4d1ea713f1
XWin was started with the
A small suggestion: I have twice been bitten
by the fact that I cannot just send an XWin
log to the cygwin-xfree list. This is because
the log contains an email address, so the cygwin
email serve bounces the message. If the format
of the email address in the log used at rather
than a literal
On 9/23/2010 9:10 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 21/09/2010 23:06, Eliot Moss wrote:
[I reported crash on resume after Suspend or Hibernate.]
Does the crash also occur if you don't use -resize?
Yes.
Is there a simple procedure for winding back?
If you've installed my snapshot as XWin.exe
Thanks for the tips; here's your stack trace:
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to thread 9084.0x19c8]
0x004158fe in winShadowUpdateDDNL (pScreen=0x19431c8, pBuf=0x1919050)
at winshadddnl.c:699
699 winshadddnl.c: No such file or directory.
in
is that I can't use the
latest drivers.
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help push
XWin forward in handling whatever new it is that the
Intel drivers are doing.
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On 9/23/2010 11:56 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
On 23/09/2010 15:54, Eliot Moss wrote:
These are GMA (Graphics Media Accelerator) drivers
for Windows 7 / Vista x64 for the Intel 4 Series Express
chipset. The releases are numbers 8.15.10., where
is what I will use to distinguish each one
On 9/23/2010 11:56 AM, Jon TURNEY wrote:
[1] ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwinx/XWin.20100923-git-2172af4d1ea713f1.exe.bz2
Some additional evidence: Using the build above, and *not* using
-resize I did not get the Aero theme suppressed on Resume behavior.
Recalling that in some earlier version
because I have
not run into the characteristic symptoms that call for
it, so I don't think that's it.
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$ export LANG=us_US.UTF-8
I think that should be en_US.UTF-8
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On 2/18/2010 11:28 AM, Craig Moore wrote:
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 10:34:56 -0500, Ken Brownkbrown at cornell dot edu wrote:
How do I configure the XWin Server so that it opens xterm correctly?
This happens because xterm doesn't start a login shell, and PS1 gets unset. One
way around this is to
Thank you, Yaakov -- this definitely fixed my problem,
and ldd shows that it requests ncurses, as desired for
the future.
Best wishes -- Eliot
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everything anyway, but a seg fault is kind of scary to
a user of an important thing like X :-) ...
Best wishes -- Eliot Moss
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XWin was started with the following
Thanks, Jon!
Installing the three font collections you suggested seems to have
solved all THREE of the problems I mentioned. I can only guess
that somehow the font/locale issues prevented some .Xdefault
information from being loaded or used properly, but I attach
the .Xdefaults file anyway.
The
*in case*
it needs their encodings -- but only demands them if LANG is set
to a UTF-8 encoding (meaning: not in the LANG=C case).
Cheers -- Eliot Moss
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Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Nov 7 09:27, Eliot Moss wrote:
Like another user, I had difficulty getting X to fire up.
After setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 I got farther, but these issues
remain:
Each xterm, xemacs, and xclock I start outputs this:
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet
the menu item, everything is ok, but if I
use the c-s-Q method, I get a seg fault in X. I attach
the log file. I have other twm questions/issues, but it's
probably best to put them in a different email :-) ...
Eliot Moss
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anbd slide show on video
projector. Once I am done and change the configuration back to one
display, X works again like normal.
Any suggestions? Or is this going to need some heavy duty programming to
fix?
Regards -- Eliot Moss
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