RE: changing font

2010-06-22 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of matias kaukonen
 Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:06 AM

 I'm new to cygwin/xfree and I'm trying to change my xterm font.   What
 I did was, typed 'xlsfonts' at
 the command prompt.  Then I selected a font name and added it to my
 .Xdefaults, for example
 'XTerm*font: -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-*-180-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'.
 This produced the following message:
 xterm:  unable to open font *, trying fixed I repeat this
 procedure about 10 times and
 got the same message each time.   Is this fixable?  If so, what would
 you suggest?

The old trick is to spark up xfontsel, which can help you narrow down 
to the font you want.  Then push the select button, which copies the 
(oft-mistyped) font spec onto the clipboard.

Next, in an xterm, type xterm -fn ', dump the clipboard, close the 
single quote and hit return to verify that the font is usable.

If that works, then you get to double check your .XDefaults grammar.


HTH,

Mike

P.S.  I got my setup to use that massive font as a test, and I envy your 
monitor, weak soul that I am.



RE: Good Xterm Fonts for C Programming

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Ajay Jain
 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 7:38 AM

 1) Can somebody suggest me some good fonts on the basis of experience,
 something that is good to read/write C codes?

It's not for everyone, but I still love the old school 8x16 font.  
It's a little large, not resizable, and a little quirky, but the characters are 
quite distinct.  Works well with higher resolution displays.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Migrating to Cygwin-X

2010-05-10 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Ajay Jain
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 9:39 PM

 1) Do an xterm -T mercury to open up xterms with titles.
 2) Do an ssh on mercury to login to linux box.
 
 I face the following issues -
 
 1) The name of the new window is not mercury, it has now changed.
 Since I need to open many such windows, I need to name them. Can you
 tell me how to accomplish the same?

Put this in every one of your .bashrc files (i.e. on every machine):

set_title() {
echo -ne \033]0;$*\007
}

Then if your autogenerated files gank your title, you can gank it right 
back:

$ set_title mercury

Here's a more complete setup:

setup() {
set_title `hostname`
export PS1='\h$ '
unalias PROMPT_COMMAND
}

Which gets rid of the write a term title after every command 
cutesiness.

Best solution is to learn how the setup files work and modify them to 
suit yourself.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Error on XWin X Server

2010-04-02 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Alessandro Antonello
 Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 11:41 PM

 I just updated my Cygwin installation and now I'm unable to run the X
 server
 again. Since the message is not explanatory and I'm not a really
 experienced
 user I decided to post the XWin.0.log in this mail:


 Fatal server error:
 Can't read lock file /tmp/.X0-lock

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-cant-read-lock-file


HTH,

Mike



RE: X11 forwarding within LAN vs remote

2010-03-24 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of pelle412

 I figured it out. My employer had installed McAfee Host Intrusion
 Prevention
 service and I can clearly see all the blocked TCP connections at port
 6000
 (Exceed). Disabling the service did the trick. Now I just have to
 figure out
 how to add an exception to it even though all means to edit it via the
 UI
 seems grayed out.

Have you tried `ssh -Y`?


HTH,

Mike



RE: fvwm2 and startxwin

2010-03-01 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Stephen More
 Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:16 PM

 Let me ask this question to clarify things:
 
 multiwindow mode (startxwin) -- Is this the same thing as --rootless

No.

 I read the thread, and there is alot about changing .xinitrc to add a
 window manager.
 But I did not read how to add a window manager to .startxwinrc or a
 parameter.

You can't.  Read again.

 I need to run fvwm rootless like:
 http://x.cygwin.com/screenshots/cygx-rootless-fvwm2-20031224-0010.png

Then run rootless, not multiwindowed.

If my responses seem curt, it is because I am concerned you won't have 
the attention span to get through them.  Over the next several years, please 
try to get all the way through the FAQ:

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html


Mike

P.S.  Ease up on the sugar, champ - that stuff'll kill you eventually!



RE: How to remotly launch application with SSH and Cygwin/X server

2010-02-26 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of __Ricardo__
 Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:09 AM
 
 didn't help too :(
 I have Win XP SP2, under this system I had installed Cygwin 1.5 and
 launch
 GUI apps via ssh
 worked. Now I have Win XP SP2 too, but current Cygwin version is 1.7.1
 - It
 doesn't work.

You are trying to launch the Windows screen apps as the user that owns 
the screen, correct?


Thanks,

Mike



RE: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Ayers

 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:58 AM
 
 On 23/02/2010 16:18, Christopher Faylor wrote:

   From my reading of the documentation, it sounds like you'd get this
 behavior by
  adding server options to startxwin:
 
 startxwin -- [ server options ]
 
 This isn't actually the case, as startxwin always supplies the '-
 multiwindow'
 option to XWin, and there is no XWin option to specify the default
 (windowed)
 mode you can add after it.
 
 This is almost by design.  There are a few differences between startx
 and
 startxwin, appropriate to running in windowed or multiwindow mode, and
 mixing
 them up would be a bad idea.
 
 * They use different scripts to start clients (~/.startxwinrc and
 ~/.xinitrc).
   This is because we expect the .xinitrc to end by starting a WM, which
 would
 a bad idea for .startxwinrc (as it would discover the internal WM is
 already
 running (hopefully)) and exit immediately.
 
 * startxwin exits after ~/.startxwinrc has completed and leaves XWin
 running,
 whereas startx waits until ~/.xinitrc exits (which is usually waiting
 for the
 WM started by it to exit) and then kills XWin.

Very good information, thanks.  Maybe should be in the FAQ..?


Thanks,

Mike



RE: Crash of XWin

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Rodrigo Medina

 Suddenly XWin will not start anymore.
 Few hours ago everything was OK.
  I have not installed any new  software,, just shutdown and start again
 the machine.
 I include cygcheck -s, XWin.0.log and ps -W as
 the log says that there is another window manager running!
 Everything else seems OK
 HELP!

My guess is that you inadvertently double-clicked the start XWin icon 
and two starting processes collided and crashed, leaving a lock or two locked.  
It's very guessy, as guesses go, but I'd reboot and try again.


HTH,

Mike



RE: How do I start WM?

2010-02-25 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Ess
 Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:16 AM

 I can reproduce your finding.  Putting just openbox  in my ~/xinitrc
 does not work.
 Putting the exec openbox-session /tmp/openbox.log 21 line in works
 fine for the few minutes I tested.

Here's my .xinitrc, modified for your pleasure:

[SNIP]
#!/bin/sh

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/etc/X11/xinit/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps

if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

# start some nice programs

xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 
xterm -geometry 80x25+0-0 
exec xterm -geometry 80x20+0+0 -C -name Console 
openbox
[/SNIP]

Notice the first line.  This is a script.  When it ends, startx ends, 
as does your X session.  Notice the last line.  The X session now lasts as long 
as the window manager.  Note the lack of redirects on the window manager, and 
the use of a console window.  I haven't tested this extensively with 1.7, but 
it's worked like a rock in the past.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Problems Starting Xterm using the System Tray Icon for XWin Server

2010-02-18 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Craig Moore
 Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:14 AM

 When I open a new xterm window using the XWin Server icon in the system
 tray:
 
  (right click on icon)-Applications-xterm
 
 it opens xterm, but the command prompt is not formatted correctly and
 the window title is 'xterm' instaed of the current directory.
 
 The command prompt looks like:
 
  bash-3.2$
 
 and should be
 
  cr...@laptop ~
  $
 
 How do I configure the XWin Server so that it opens xterm correctly?

My wild guess is that you have a typo in .bashrc which prevents all the 
startup happening.  in your system tray launched window, make sure you are in 
your home directory, then run '. .bashrc' (note that first period!) and see if 
there are any error messages.  You can also edit .bashrc and put 'set -x' as 
the first line for verbose output.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Can't start X after upgrading to cygwin1.7

2010-02-04 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:44 AM

  1.  Added a line in /etc/profile, just before the chmod 1777 /tmp
 line:
mount -f $USERPROFILE/Local Settings/Temp /tmp

I think it would be better to find the actual /tmp directory and change 
the Windows permissions to give Full Control to Everyone.  This should make 
the problem 

 
  2.  Changed the XWin Server icon so instead of just startxwin.exe, it
 says:
... startxwin.exe -- -logfile ~/XWin.log
  (Don't take out the beginning of the command that runs startxwin
  through bash, or the /etc/profile won't get run.  The quotes are
  needed because this is the argument to bash's -c option.)

This isn't bad at all.  An alternative is to change the permissions on 
/var/log as above, if you don't mind letting all your users see, and be able to 
delete or modify, all the cygwin logfiles, but I don't see it as any better.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Cygwin 1.7 xterm

2010-01-15 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Lowry
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:27 PM

 Okay, I understand that, but I did not have to do this under 1.5.  Did
 they change the default in 1.7?

I think a settings file went away.  To get rid of the toolbar, put 
XTerm*toolBar: false (note case) in ~/.Xdefaults.  Note that ~ is defined by 
/etc/passwd, not HOME.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Cygwin 1.7 xterm

2010-01-15 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Lowry
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 3:07 PM

 Also, I just start X server and got this error trying to start the
 xterm
 from the startxwin.bat:

Don't do that, read the release notes instead, or search the mail list 
archive (FAQ still needs an update):

C:\ C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/bash.exe -l -c /usr/bin/startxwin.exe


HTH,

Mike



RE: screen not updated outside 1680x1050

2009-12-17 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Frédéric Bron
 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 2:47 PM

 Welcome to the XWin X Server
 Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
 Release: 1.7.1.0 (10701000)
 Build Date: 2009-11-11
 
 Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
 
 XWin was started with the following command line:
 
 XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -silent-dup-error
 
 ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
 winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1680 h 1050
^
Looks like the system doesn't see your whole resolution at startup.  
I'd pass -screen 0 1920x1200 to XWin.exe.  I tried this to reduce my screen 
resolution, and saw things similar to what you describe outside the declared 
screensize.


HTH,

Mike



Note on 1.7 startxwin.bat

2009-12-09 Thread Mike Ayers

Just thought I'd throw this out for those of you having trouble 
starting the X server.  I had been using the stock icon to launch the X server, 
which shortcuts to:

C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat

This worked fine, except that the xterm did not appear.  I could click 
the xterm icon, and that xterm would appear.  After a little testing, I found 
that changing it to:

C:\cygwin\bin\startxwin.bat

...caused server startup with the xterm.  Setting the shortcut to run 
minimized mitigated the pop-and-poof console.


HTH,

Mike



RE: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-07 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of wgw...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 4:34 PM

 Sorry to take a bit of time to get back to you.  I am attaching the
 files you requested.  I am not familar with the cygwin x server log,
 but it looks like *that* starts up.  It's just that xterm cannot
 connect.

That does appear to be the case.

 You mentioned that the server listenens on 0.0.0.0.  You mean a
 port?

No.  0.0.0.0 is the broadcast IP address.  When a server listens on 
that address, it listens to every interface on the computer, so it wouldn't 
matter if you tried connecting to localhost or the external address (i.e. leave 
your DISPLAY pointing to 127.0.0.1:0).

 I'm asking because what I have noticed about Windows 7
 Home Edition is that even though I have created a user for myself with
 administrative priveleges, unless I tell the OS that I want to
 run a program as the administrator it will default to the privileges
 for an
 ordinary user.  I don't know a way to turn this off, yet.

I don't believe there is a workaround, unfortunately.  Vista has the 
same issue.

 So, is it possible that the port that the cygwin-x server is listening
 on
 belongs to the administrator and the xterm session when it is
 launched cannot write to this port as a result?

No, there are no ownership issues sending packets to ports.  My 
suspicion would be that the non-administrator X server process would not be 
allowed to open the listeneing port, or be firewalled off, but neither can be 
the case if xcalc works.  Have you tried running xterm from a cygwin console 
after the server has started?

  I tried running DOS
 cmd as
 the administrator btw, with no better results.

Which DOS command?


Thanks,

Mike



RE: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of wgw...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:47 PM

 I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any
 replies.
 If this is the wrong place to post this,
 please let me know where I should.

This is the place, but I don't know how many of us have tried using 64 
bit Windows 7 yet.  I know I haven't, but I'll offer advice anyway.  (What's 
the smiley for evil leer?)

  I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
 version 6.1.
 I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
 running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)
 
 I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a
 cmd
 window to get the error output:
 
 C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat
 
 and see this:
 
 /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
 
 this seems to be coming from this command in the batch file:
 :\Users\princessC:\cygwin\bin\\..\bin\run -p /usr/bin xterm -e
 /usr/bin/bash -
 
 usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

...implying that the server didn't start.

 If I kill the server and run the script again, I'll get a
 STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION error, indicating
 some sort of shared memory corruption.  I then have to restart the PC.
 I
 checked to see if there
 was more than one cygwin1.dll in response to earlier posts about this
 error
 and there is only one.
 
 I tried turning off the windows firewall.  That helps in other ways,
 because
 other cygwin network
 utilities, such as nslookup were blocked until I did that.

 I tried changing the display from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the
 machine.

I believe the X server listens on 0.0.0.0, so that shouldn't make a 
difference.

 Basically, I have a fresh machine with windows 7 and a fresh install of
 cygwin and I can't get
 xterm to work.  Anyone have any ideas?  Or is this just a windows 7
 thing,
 and I'll have to give
 up on cygwin-x for a while?
 
 BTW, other shortcuts in the cygwin-x start folder work, such as bitmap
 and
 xcalc, just not the
 Xwin server and xterm.

How can xcalc work if the server doesn't start?!

Please send your /var/log/XWin0.log and cygcheck.out (cygcheck -s -v -r 
cygcheck.out) as attachments in the hope that they will inspire.


Thanks,

Mike



RE: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of wgw...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:47 PM

 I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any
 replies.
 If this is the wrong place to post this,
 please let me know where I should.

This is the right place, but it's possible none of us with time to 
spare has run on Windows 7 64 bit yet.
 
  I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
 version 6.1.
 I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
 running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)
 
 I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a
 cmd
 window to get the error output:
 
 C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat
 
 and see this:
 
 /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
 
 this seems to be coming from this command in the batch file:
 :\Users\princessC:\cygwin\bin\\..\bin\run -p /usr/bin xterm -e
 /usr/bin/bash -
 
 usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

...implying that the server didn't start.  Did you run as administrator?

 I
 checked to see if there
 was more than one cygwin1.dll in response to earlier posts about this
 error
 and there is only one.
 
 I tried turning off the windows firewall.  That helps in other ways,
 because
 other cygwin network
 utilities, such as nslookup were blocked until I did that.

 I tried changing the display from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the
 machine.

I believe the X server listens on 0.0.0.0, so that shouldn't make a 
difference.

 Basically, I have a fresh machine with windows 7 and a fresh install of
 cygwin and I can't get
 xterm to work.  Anyone have any ideas?  Or is this just a windows 7
 thing,
 and I'll have to give
 up on cygwin-x for a while?
 
 BTW, other shortcuts in the cygwin-x start folder work, such as bitmap
 and
 xcalc, just not the
 Xwin server and xterm.

How can xcalc work if the server doesn't start?!

Please send your /var/log/XWin0.log and cygcheck.out (cygcheck -s -v -r 
cygcheck.out) as attachments in the hope that they will inspire.


Thanks,

Mike



FW: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers



 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of wgw...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:47 PM

 I sent this post earlier this week and have not received any
 replies.
 If this is the wrong place to post this,
 please let me know where I should.

This is the right place, but it's possible none of us with time to 
spare has run on Windows 7 64 bit yet.
 
  I just bought a new PC with windows 7 64 bit, build number 7600,
 version 6.1.
 I downloaded a fresh install of cygwin and cannot get cygwin-x xterm
 running.  Cygwin version is 1.7.0(0.218/5/3)
 
 I tried running the cygwin-x XWin Server shortcut command line from a
 cmd
 window to get the error output:
 
 C:\cygwin\bin\run.exe /usr/bin/startxwin.bat
 
 and see this:
 
 /usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0
 
 this seems to be coming from this command in the batch file:
 :\Users\princessC:\cygwin\bin\\..\bin\run -p /usr/bin xterm -e
 /usr/bin/bash -
 
 usr/bin/xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

...implying that the server didn't start.  Did you run as administrator?

 I
 checked to see if there
 was more than one cygwin1.dll in response to earlier posts about this
 error
 and there is only one.
 
 I tried turning off the windows firewall.  That helps in other ways,
 because
 other cygwin network
 utilities, such as nslookup were blocked until I did that.

 I tried changing the display from 127.0.0.1 to the IP address of the
 machine.

I believe the X server listens on 0.0.0.0, so that shouldn't make a 
difference.

 Basically, I have a fresh machine with windows 7 and a fresh install of
 cygwin and I can't get
 xterm to work.  Anyone have any ideas?  Or is this just a windows 7
 thing,
 and I'll have to give
 up on cygwin-x for a while?
 
 BTW, other shortcuts in the cygwin-x start folder work, such as bitmap
 and
 xcalc, just not the
 Xwin server and xterm.

How can xcalc work if the server doesn't start?!

Please send your /var/log/XWin0.log and cygcheck.out (cygcheck -s -v -r 
cygcheck.out) as attachments in the hope that they will inspire.


Thanks,

Mike



RE: FW: cygwin-x xterm not compatible with windows 7?

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor

 You really only need to send this type of thing once.  Three times is
 overkill.

The first two came back to me from cygwin-xfree-retur...@cygwin.com 
addresses with the first part garbled, so I thought they were mangled by my 
mailer and not getting sent to the list.  Apologies for the inconvenience - 
still not sure what happened.


Mike



RE: Problem with new xinit - console window doesn't open (but bash starts)

2009-11-20 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of laxamar
 Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:38 AM

 Shouldn't these packages be set as dependents for xorg-server?

They're not strict dependencies - a UTF-8 based locale has more 
requirements than other locales due to its ability to represent so many 
scripts.  Also, the server won't fail for lack of those fonts, rather it will 
exhibit occasional unnecessary lags.

That said, I favor setting the packages as dependencies, as they're 
ever more likely to see a bit of use.


$.02 (and not a red cent more),

Mike



RE: checkX problems

2009-11-13 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Lothar Brendel

 Could you please clarify an issue here? (Sorry, it seems, I wronged to
 ``run'' in the previous posts.)
 
 In a Windows command prompt (being somewhere on C:) I put the line
 \cygwin\bin\run -p /usr/bin sleep -wait 5
 into a file ``dosleep.bat''. Executing that BAT-script (w/o any
 wrapper), it
 *does* sleep. Typing that very line directly at the prompt lets ``run''
 return immediately, though. Can you confirm this behaviour?

I can confirm that without testing (so I'm probably chomping foot 
here...).  The sleep is holding the console open after run quits. This comes 
under the console programs must have a console heading.  It takes a bit ti 
get used to, but you'll get it soon.

  Looking forward to reading your patches to address any of these
  problems.
 
  It shouldn't be too hard to add an option to checkX to make it
 retry
  if ECONNREFUSED. This would have to manually track the elapsed time
  for each attempt, charging against the specified -t waittime.
 
 Another possibility would be an option ``-n'' to specify the number of
 retries.

GAH!  No, that's just lame.  Just spawn/fork a 
sleep-then-interrupt-daddy thread/process, set up a SIGINT handler that exits 
with an error, loop connection attempts until successful, check X, kill child, 
exit with success.  That enforces both types of timeout.


HTH,

Mike



RE: 'run xterm' fails to open a window

2009-11-12 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY

 Wait, are you saying that the process that run starts is blocked if it
 tries
 to output anything?

That is what I am experiencing.

 Also, the suggestions that this has something to do with DISPLAY not
 being set
 correctly seem a little unlikely.  If gvim or any other X application
 isn't
 able to determine which display to use, it should exit with an error,
 not hang
 around

I agree.  I think DISPLAY is a red herring.  Not having the display set 
can cause programs which exit without output, not hang around.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Cygwin/x window no longer appears

2009-11-12 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Cheronet
 Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:16 PM

 I have recently started to work with Cygwin/X.
 Until now, I have been starting Cygwin/X by using startxwin.bat in the
 Cygwin bash shell. Everything seemed to be working fine. However, it
 has now stopped working...
 When I type startxwin.bat in the Cygwin shell, the normal
 startxwin.bat - starting on Windows NT/2000/XP/2003
 appears. Yet, the window which used to appear no longer does. I am
 really not too sure what to do about this, given that I have not
 (consciously!) modified anything.
 I have installed Cygwin (and Cygwin/x) very recently, and have tried to
 reinstall the latter using Cygwin's setup.exe, but to no effect.

Try this:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2009-11/msg00071.html

or set your LOCALE to en_US.UTF-8.  You may need to install CJK fonts 
if things work but are sluggish.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Cygwin/x window no longer appears

2009-11-12 Thread Mike Ayers

 If you read the cygcheck output which Olivia kindly provided, you will
 see
 that she is running cygwin 1.5, with Xserver 1.5.3, so these recent
 breakages
 relating to Xserver 1.7.1 are unlikely to be the cause of her problems.
 
 --
 Jon TURNEY
 Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer

DOH!


Sorry about that,

Mike



RE: [1.7] Cygwin/X crashes with latest server, cygwin

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:31 AM

 On 09/11/2009 20:48, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
 
 Until there is a new libX11 package, you can update your locale data by
 downloading the locale.patch file from bugzilla [1] and applying it in
 /usr/share/X11/locale/
 
 'wget -O- http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=4340 | patch
 -d
 /usr/share/X11/locale/' should do the trick :-)

Fixed my stopped working when I updated it yesterday server, thanks!


Mike



RE: 'run xterm' fails to open a window

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of jean-luc malet
 Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:50 AM

 no more result... gvim process is still started, appears in ps -a, but
 nothing is displayed on screen, replacing gvim by xterm still work
 with this solution...

To find out why this is, run gvim from an xterm:

[SNIP]
m-ayers-lap gvim

(gvim:1748): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GSUB table 0x6EAD

(gvim:1748): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 0x6EAD

(gvim:1748): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GSUB table 0x6EAD

(gvim:1748): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 0x6EAD
m-ayers-lap 
(gvim:1092): Pango-WARNING **: Error loading GPOS table 0x6EAD
[/SNIP]

Apparently, run.exe is not providing stdout/stderr to dump to.  The 
workaround:

[SNIP]
C:\mikeC:\cygwin\bin\run.exe -p /usr/bin sh -c gvim /dev/null 21
C:\mike
[/SNIP]


HTH,

Mike



RE: 1.5.25-15: 100% CPU under xdmcp and Gnome

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Ayers

 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:11 AM

 Yes, the clipboard integration code in 1.5.x has some known problems,
 but
 there will probably be no more X server releases for Cygwin/X unless
 someone
 else volunteers to do it.

Do you mean just for 1.5, or also for 1.7?


Thanks,

Mike



RE: How to open a standalone xterm

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Joel Gwynn
 Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:27 AM


 And now, sporadically, when I run startxwin.sh, sometimes it works, ie
 opens up the xterm, but sometimes some windows open, with text that I
 can't read quickly enough, then go away.  If I close Xwin and try
 again, sometimes it will work, mostly not.

You're not running startxwin twice, right?  That won't work - you must 
run the xterm command from an existing xterm, a cygwin window, or the xterm 
icon in the start menu (which can be copied to the quicklaunch bar).

Also, try running bash in an existing xterm to see if the problem is in 
your .bashrc, i.e. not with xterm or X.


HTH,

Mike



RE: xauth data + X connection to localhost:10.0 broken problem

2009-10-01 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Florent Fievez
 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:27 AM

 2009/9/30 diego menezes domen...@gmail.com:

  was installed I guess. So, how can get in here? Also, I believe the
 line
  XAuthLocation /usr/bin/xauth is actually XAuthLocation
  /usr/bin/xauth.exe sice xauth is an executable. Instead I have a
 file named
  xauth_switch_to_sun-des-1.
 
 
 You can create the ~/.ssh/config file by yoursef and just put in the 2
 line above.

I think it needs to have 744 permissions or better.

So this would be, say:

[SNIP]

Host target1
Hostname target1.some.dom.ain
XAuthLocation /usr/bin/xauth

[/SNIP]

...where XAuthLocation points to the local xauth?  Do I need to have a 
matching declaration on the target?  I've tried this several ways with no 
success so far.  Any help appreciated.


Thanks,

Mike



RE: Path problem with xterm

2009-09-29 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of John Emmas
 Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:43 AM

 From: Mike Ayers
 
  If you set PATH absolutely in .bash_profile, the right thing will
 happen.
  You may want to copy the initial value of PATH into another exported
 env
  var, so that you can see if there have been changes to the default
 path.


 Hi Mike.  If I can find some time this week, I'm tempted to give this a
 try
 but I don't quite understand how it would work.  Are you saying that an
 absolute path in .bash_profile will somehow override the other paths?
 Or
 that it will somehow prevent the various other scripts from adding
 their own
 entries?  Or will I still have to track down all those other files and
 edit
 them anyway?

In .bash_profile:

export OPATH=$PATH
export PATH='/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin'

Note that we are discarding the old value of PATH.  Now, when the 
ancillary login scripts run and add their bits to PATH, those bits will only be 
there once.  So we completely rebuild PATH on a login shell, and change nothing 
on a non-login shell.


Kapische?

Mike



RE: Path problem with xterm

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of John Emmas
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:51 AM

 It looks like you're right about this Ken.  Many of the scripts and
 batch
 files just blindly add their directory requirements to my path without
 checking whether the path already contained them.

If you set PATH absolutely in .bash_profile, the right thing will 
happen.  You may want to copy the initial value of PATH into another exported 
env var, so that you can see if there have been changes to the default path.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Cut Paste problem between X windows

2009-09-14 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Steve Wallace

 Any text within X-term or urxvt is highlighted correctly but when
 clicking the centre mouse button it is not
 pasted into either the same x-term or any other.

Please check your Control Panel Mouse settings to verify that you do 
not have middle button emulate enabled, which can mess with the second 
button, or anything else that might be re-interpreting the buttons.

As a workaround, try using ctrl-insert to paste.  this works for me 
both from X and Windows apps on XP.


HTH,

Mike



RE: Automatically positioned mouse movements are off target

2009-08-28 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sheppard

 I am testing a Java application using a tool called Abbot. Abbot
 launches
 your Java Swing app within Abbot’s JVM. Abbot reads the coordinates of
 Swing
 components from internal Java objects, and then issues mouse and
 keystroke
 commands to simulate user actions according to a script.

On what machine is the application running?


Thanks,

Mike



ssh config

2009-08-18 Thread Mike Ayers

I'm trying to set up shortcuts in ~/.ssh/config, but it doesn't seem to 
work.  I add:

Host slate
Hostname quarry.slate-gravel.com
User fred

...but when I try to use it:

[SNIP]
host ssh slate
ssh: Could not resolve hostname slate: no address associated with name
host
[/SNIP]

What am I missing here?


Thanks,

Mike



RE: ssh config

2009-08-18 Thread Mike Ayers

Well that was it, thanks, but why is ssh looking there?  I thought it 
(and all other apps) used HOME on cygwin?


Thanks,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:24 AM
 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
 Subject: Re: ssh config
 
 Check your /etc/passwd file
 It's possible that ~ isn't really your home directory
 
 - Jim
 
 On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Mike Ayersmike_ay...@tvworks.com
 wrote:
 
         I'm trying to set up shortcuts in ~/.ssh/config, but it doesn't seem 
  to
 work.  I add:
 
  Host slate
     Hostname quarry.slate-gravel.com
     User fred
 
         ...but when I try to use it:
 
  [SNIP]
  host ssh slate
  ssh: Could not resolve hostname slate: no address associated with name
  host
  [/SNIP]
 
         What am I missing here?
 
 
         Thanks,
 
  Mike
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: ssh config

2009-08-18 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Larry Hall (Cygwin X)
 Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:10 PM


 On 8/18/2009 1:46 PM, Mike Ayers wrote:
 
  Well that was it, thanks, but why is ssh looking there?  I thought it
  (and all other apps) used HOME on cygwin?
 
 Nope.  But if you think about it, if $HOME doesn't equal ~ for Cygwin,
 something has gone awry.  Given that as context, it really wouldn't matter
 whether '/etc/passwd' or $HOME was the source.

So it gets ~ from /etc/passwd?  Ah - didn't know that.  I'll check it 
in the future.  I do think of cygwin as a Windows environment more than Unix, 
so some of these things get by me.  In years past, I would just set HOME and 
all was well.


Thanks,

Mike



RE: Cygwin 1.7 hangs with my .xinitrc

2009-07-06 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:16 AM

 I can reproduce the problem using it.  I seem to end up with 
 a few of the 
 xterms spinning somewhere and trying to use 100% CPU, and 
 outputting the 
 following:
 
 No protocol specified
 xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0
 
 After inserting 'sleep 1' into the .xinitrc before each xterm 
 seems to start 
 up without trouble, so I guess there's some sort of timing condition 
 somewhere, although I've no idea where...

I have had `sleep 1` statements after each xterm launch in my .xinitrc 
for years, having encountered a similar problem.  At least I'm pretty sure it 
was a similar problem... yes, I should have reported it then.


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Blank title bars

2009-06-18 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Csaba Raduly
 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:19 AM

 For some reason, changes to the title bar text result in a blank title
 bar instead until the window loses focus.
[SNIP/]
 According to the About box, the X server is version 1.5.3 (20090222)
 Cygwin1.DLL   1005.25.0.0 (1.5.25-cr-0x5f1)
 
 Has anybody seen anything like this? Any ideas?

I'm running  1.5.3 (20090225) on XP, and have no such problem (don't 
know how to get the cygwin DLL version).  Are you perchance running Vista?  
Best bet is to upgrade to the latest and see if the problem persists (you've 
tried rebooting, yes?).


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Importing and Compiling with the GSL In cygwin

2009-06-12 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Williams
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:45 AM

 I installed cygwin so that I could work in a computational physics
 group as an undergrad. As such, It would be wonderful to be able to
 use the GSL, which I understand is an auto-installed package and when
 I try import it using
 
 #include gsl/gsl_math.h
 #include gsl/gsl_deriv.h
 #include gsl/gsl_sf.h
 
 but these don't appear to work. What is the directory that I need to
 import, or how do I build with the GSL under the cygwin environment?

For any package, install the *-devel package if you want the headers 
and libs, so you need to install gsl-devel.


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Windows 7 RC1 and Cygwin 1.7

2009-05-15 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:13 PM

 I have installed Windows 7 RC1 (64-bit) as well as Cygwin 1.7,
 including the Xorg stuff in the Cygwin setup-1.7.exe file
 
 I can start the X server OK, as well as xterm and xemacs.
 
 When I start an xterm by right-clicking on the X server icon in the
 system tray, in addition to the Xterm windows, I also get what appears
 to be two empty DOS windows - one with xwin.exe in the window title,
 one with xterm.exe in the window title.  When I close the xterm, those
 two DOS windows also disappear.
 
 Can anyone speculate why this is happening?

Speculate?  Heck, yeah!

1)  Microsoft has decided it doesn't like Cygwin.  Those terminal 
windows are waiting for you to walk away so they can eat the xterms.

2)  Space aliens are messing with you.  They want to know if you have a 
juicy brain before they decide whether to eat it.

3)  Housing prices will continue to rise at 20% per annum.

Huh?!  You want *sane* speculation?  Are you sure that's not an 
oxymoron?  How about:

1)  The interface for detaching a program from its console window has 
changed slightly in Windows 7.  A slight code change will be needed.  In the 
meantime the console windows are harmless - setting the shortcut to run 
minimized should keep them off the screen if still in the program bar.


HTH,

Mike

P.S.  That was speculation.  Hopefully someone will have a real answer soon.

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RE: Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0

2009-05-04 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Drew Ackerman
 Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 1:11 PM

 The error message I'm getting is Error: Can't open display: 
 127.0.0.1:0.0

Is this during server startup or client startup?

 My system info is:
 Windows XP
 Firewall exceptionPort number = 6000/TCP
 System VariablesDisplay=127.0.0.1:0.0 (I can ping 
 127.0.0.1 from cygwin)

Shouldn't this be 127.0.0.1:0?


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Two versions of the same package? It was Re: Compiling flpsed under cygwin

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Senderowicz
 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:22 AM

 I manage to compile fltk-1.3 with X11 support as suggested in the link
 below.

The first step in that link is to remove the cygwin fltk package.  I 
suggest you do that.


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Two versions of the same package? It was Re: Compiling flpsed under cygwin

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Senderowicz
 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:57 AM

 OK. How do I check if there are any dependencies on the cygwin fltk?
 Also, how do I remove this package? Is there an easy way of 
 doing it, or
 I have to dig all related files? Thanks.

Just run cygwin setup, pick the full view, find fltk, and change Keep 
to Uninstall on the spinner, then proceed.  This will also update all your 
existing packages - yea!


HTH,

Mike

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RE: How to switch between different processes in xterm

2009-03-20 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of pKdas
 Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:45 PM

  Hi all,
  I have installed the recent version of cygwin Xterm and I 
 find it quite
  different from the earlier version installed.

There's really only one major difference - the -multiwindow flag is not 
set by default in startx (and Xwin?) anymore.

  Now there is a single parent background in which all the 
 processes are
  opened. In turn it shows only onw process in windows.That's 
 good. But I
  have the following problems.
  I am not able to get the cross area in any of the child 
 programs, hence
  have to struggle a lot to close them.

Click on the background and select kill, then, while you have the 
skull-n-bones pointer, click on the window you want to terminate.

  Also it it quite inconvenient to switch between child 
 processes(I want a
  replacement of Alt+Tab shortcut for this to switch 
 between processes
  within cygwin/X ).

I think there's a three- or four-key equivalent, but I don't know what 
it is.  IIRC, twm defaults to focus-on enter, so you can just move the mouse to 
switch terms.


HTH,

Mike

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RE: xterm (not rxvt) cut and paste through xinit (not Xwin)

2009-03-10 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of SS BB
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:13 PM

 I have recently reinstalled the cygwin X on my xp box, now I 
 have a problem
 of cut and paste from xterm to windows. The way I start X is 
 via startx, but
 I was not able to enable clipboard in this case. How do I do that?

$ startx -- -clipboard

You might want to pass in the -multiwindow flag, too.  That's no 
longer default, either.


HTH,

Mike

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RE: (some) xterm disappearing when typing

2009-03-10 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of SS BB
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:56 PM

 Hi, I ran cygwin X at work and everything works fine except one thing:
 we have some special command that launches an xterm to a production
 window via ssh/X11 tunneling. This window will disappear on me when I
 attempt to type into it.

FAQ 3.2.

Come on, where's the challenge in that?


Mike

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RE: (some) xterm disappearing when typing

2009-03-10 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of SS BB
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:17 PM

 I don't have any of those variables set in my shell, does it make
 it more challenging? :-)

Probably not.

 plus, if I do have some of those set, shouldn't all xterm fail??

You are misreading the entry.  Just follow its first line:

[SNIP]
Launch the X server via the shortcut under Cygwin-X on the start menu. 
[/SNIP]

Does that work?


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X clipboard problems

2009-02-26 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:52 PM

 I've built a version of 1.5.3-7, with this patch reverted and 
 lots more 
 clipboard debugging added.  You can download it from [2]
 
 It would be most helpful if you could try this and see if the 
 clipboard 
 problems you are seeing are changed at all.

 [2] ftp://cygwin.com/pub/cygwinx/XWin.20090225214130.exe.bz2

Both startx and startxwin.bat (i.e. start server menu item), which 
formerly experienced severe clipboard problems, are now running cleanly!


Thanks,

Mike

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RE: XWin.exe crashing at startup

2009-02-26 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Allen
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:07 PM

 Thought I'd reply to the list about the resolution to this, since
 somebody just asked me about this off-list:
 
 'startxwin.sh' from a bash window works whereas 'startx' doesn't (also
 works: 'startxwin.bat' from a windows cmd line).

Try:

startx -- -multiwindow -clipboard

 It seems startx is
 broken on cygwin.

Not really, although the behavior changed a little a few months ago (I 
didn't need the flags before).

I'll see if I can try this on Vista tonight.


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-25 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: Dan Tsafrir [mailto:dan.tsaf...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:03 PM

 However, in an attempt to test your hypothesis, I've set the affinity
 of XWin.exe, emacs, and the vncviewer to only use CPU0 (through the
 task manager).

I don't think this is a valid test.  What is wanted is a P4 single-core 
hyperthreader with BIOS hyperthread enable (or a multi processor and a 
screwdriver).  Anyone have a single/nulti switchable handy?  I'll check my BIOS 
next reboot.


Mike

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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: Jon TURNEY [mailto:jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:14 AM

 Thanks very much for this information on the clipboard 
 problems.  I've been 
 able to reproduce something similar to the problems you 
 describe, so I will 
 spend some time trying to fix it.

Sweet!

 It seems likely that this clipboard contention between 
 multiple applications 
 might behave differently on machines with multi-core 
 processors (which I don't 
 have the capability to test on), so can you indicate if you are using 
 single-core or multi-core processor?

Multi-core, I believe, although I can't tell for sure if I'm not just 
hyperthreading without rebooting (not an option at the moment).


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-24 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Dan Tsafrir
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:30 PM

 Pardon my ignorance, but until now I wasn't aware there is such a
 thing as office clipboard. However, according to this
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipboard_manager
 
 even if I have it installed, the office clipboard is open as long as
 one of the office suite applications are open, and my cygwin
 copy-paste problems occur even if the only applications alive are (1)
 a cygwin xterm and (2) a vncviewer. So it appears my problem is
 unrelated to the office clipboard.

Wikipedia?!  Try the source.  This was the only way I found to ensure 
that OC is not running:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/207438

I have Office 2003, and OC was disabled by default (because I have the 
value edition?)


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Phil Betts
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:25 AM

  I do not usually set it.  I only did so in the sample to satisfy
  FAQ 6.1.

...but set it out of order.  I didn't notice that because the results 
didn't change.  Here's the more typical session:

[SNIP]
mike-ayers-lap echo $DISPLAY
127.0.0.1:0.0
mike-ayers-lap ssh -Y may...@mikeayers-linux-2
Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding.
Last login: Fri Feb 20 09:23:39 2009 from 192.168.2.87
mikeayers-linux-2 echo $DISPLAY
localhost:15.0
mikeayers-linux-2 xterm
Xlib: connection to localhost:15.0 refused by server
Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:15.0
mikeayers-linux-2 
[/SNIP]


HTH,

Mike


RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Dan Tsafrir
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:36 AM

 Initially, the only way I was aware of to get the copy-paste
 functionality back was to reboot the machine. But recently I've
 noticed another way. I run XP's 'clipbrd', which (in the state of no
 copy-paste functionality) produces one of these two strange outcomes:
 
 1) clipboard displays the following message
 
 ClipBook Viewer cannot display the information in its 
 current format
 or there is not enough memory to display it. Quit one or more
 applications to increase the available memory, and try again.
 
 2) clipboard is going insane, seemingly trying to endlessly scroll
 down (while simultaneously displaying a message saying Method Open
 Fai) and taking up 25-30% of the CPU.
 
 In both case, if I click the 'delete' button within the clipboard
 application (= clear content of clipboard) then the insane behavior
 stops and copy-paste starts working again as long as no cygwin X
 application is involved.

I can neither confirm nor deny this, as I don't have ClipBook available.

 But the minute I highlight some text in a
 cygwin X application, the insane behavior within clipbrd resumes. The
 only way to make things normal again (that I'm aware of) is to kill
 cygwin/X (which, in this situation, mandates killing all cygwin
 applications through the task-manager, otherwise they refuse to die
 and just hang).

I just kill Xwin.exe forcibly in task manager - it takes all X apps 
with it.  However, the better trick I discovered recently is to click on VNC's 
taskbar icon and close it.  Once it closes, the X applications recover and can 
cut-n-pste with Windows apps.  Also, because VNC is VNC, no setup is lost there 
either - I can reconnect and my console is unharmed.  I suspect the problem 
here may be contention between the two applications that want to share the 
clipboard.  Our other report implicated Office clipboard, which may be doing 
the same thing..?


HTH,

Mike

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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Williams, 
 Chris (Marlboro)
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:40 AM

 I use the vnc viewer from RealVNC and the X.org server from 
 cygwin I and
 I don't have any copy and paste problems. My problems with 
 the clipboard
 on Windows seem to be related to the Offfice clipboard 
 application. Once
 I shut that down, everything seems fine. In fact, I copy/paste to/from
 the RealVNC viewer and X apps all the time.

H... which invocation method and clipboard type are you using?  I 
am running `/usr/bin/startx -- -multiwindow -clipboard`.


Thanks,

Mike

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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Williams, 
 Chris (Marlboro)
 Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:19 PM

 There is also a warning about not usign xwinclip with the -clipboard
 switch

I am not explicitly running xwinclip - is there an implicit way to be 
running it?


Thanks,

Mike

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RE: BadAlloc

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of 
 cygwin-xfree.20.maillingl...@spamgourmet.com

 The xterm starts, but when I press a key the x crashes with the
 following error message
 -
 xterm:  warning, error event received:
 X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for
 operation)
   Major opcode of failed request:  136 (XKEYBOARD)
   Minor opcode of failed request:  16 (XkbSetNamedIndicator)
   Serial number of failed request:  133
   Current serial number in output stream:  137
 -


 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:06 AM

 I'm afraid this has the status of 'known issue' at the 
 moment, until someone 
 who can reproduce the problem works on it.
 
 Tracking in bugzilla:
 
 http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9780


HTH,

Mike

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RE: rgb.txt not honored in X7?

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jon TURNEY
 Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:44 AM

 Mike Ayers wrote all on one line:

I don't know why.  My mailer usually fills, I think.
I'll do it by hand this time, if that helps.

  From where?  I believe this should be ~/.Xdefaults, but 
 the nature of cygwin can make ~ an indefinite place for 
 startup files.  I set %HOME%, which becomes $HOME to what 
 will be ~, but if I put 
 
  XTerm*toolbar: false in $HOME/.Xdefaults I still have 
 toolbars on my xterms.
 
 Case is signficant. Try XTerm*toolBar: false

That worked, but not immediately.  I still don't know
wether I am trying to put it into .Xdefaults, or what directory
that would go in (Windows default home or %HOME%), or whether
the file should actually be named .Winrc, as implied by the
tray icon (sometimes).

I have gotten a bit of functionality back by modifying my
startx.bat script from:

[SNIP type=old]
@echo off

C:
chdir C:\cygwin\bin

bash --login -c startx
[/SNIP]

to

[SNIP type=new]
@echo off

C:
chdir C:\cygwin\bin

bash --login -c /usr/bin/startx -- -multiwindow -clipboard
[/SNIP]

  .Xresources is xrdb -merge'd by /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc (i.e. 
  if you use startx)

I manage that in my .xinitrc, which was originally copied
from the system xinitrc.

 I suspect you used to have the -multiwindow option to the X 
 server in your 
 startx script somewhere (defaultserverargs?)

I only used the startx as shipped.  My start script (above) is the only 
modification I made.

 A few people have reported cut-and-paste problems with 
 vncclient also running.

I'm one of them.

 If you can spare the time to write a mail (in a new thread) 
 with some clear 
 reproduction steps, that would be most appreciated.

Coming shortly.


Thanks,

Mike

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RE: Cannot convert string -*-lucida-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Ayers

FAQ 3.5:

The lucida font family is provided by the package font-bh-dpi75 (or 
font-bh-dpi100). The monospaced version, lucida typewriter is provided by the 
package font-bh-lucidatypewriter-dpi75 (or font-bh-lucidatypewriter-dpi100). 


HTH,

Mike

 -Original Message-
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Y
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:35 PM
 To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
 Cc: cyg...@cygwin.com
 Subject: Re: Cannot convert string 
 -*-lucida-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 
 I see two folders /usr/share/fonts/75dpi, 
 /usr/share/fonts/100dpi on my PC. But I do not know if they 
 are the two needed font packages or not, and how to use them 
 to fix my issue.
 
 Please give some details. Thanks.
 
 --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Yaakov (Cygwin/X) 
 yselkow...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 
  From: Yaakov (Cygwin/X) yselkow...@users.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: Cannot convert string 
 -*-lucida-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
  To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
  Cc: cyg...@cygwin.com
  Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 12:27 PM
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   I can not launch Oracle Installer from AIX by warning:

   Warning: Cannot convert string
  -*-lucida-medium-r-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 to
  type FontStruct
   Exception in thread main

   Is there a fix for this?

   I check Cygwin FAQ. How can I know if packages
  font-bh-dpi75 and font-bh-lucidatypewriter-dpi75 have been
  installed on my PC? 
  
  1) http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTWLL
  
  2)
  http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-where-are-my-fonts
  
  3) Cygwin/X questions belong on the cygwin-xfree list. 
  Setting
  Reply-To: accordingly.
  
  
  Yaakov
  Cygwin/X
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RE: Reproducing the cygwin X problems

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Phil Betts
 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:34 PM

 It might have worked, but it was wrong.  Do not set the DISPLAY
 environment variable.  It is set by ssh -Y to something similar to
 localhost:10.0 - the actual value depends on whether there are other
 forwarded X connections to that box.

I do not usually set it.  I only did so in the sample to satisfy FAQ 
6.1.

 BEFORE running ssh, you need to ensure that $DISPLAY is set correctly
 for local connections (probably :0).

127.0.0.1:0, set by the system.  I ordinarily do not check it, as I've 
never needed to set it when things worked.

 By specifying your own value for $DISPLAY inside the ssh session, you 
 are ensuring that all X traffic bypasses the ssh tunnel and 
 sets up its 
 own (insecure and not encrypted) connection.  This new 
 connection must 
 then go through the normal authentication process and it will appear 
 to the X server as a remote connection, whereas the ssh connection 
 looks like a local connection to the server.

FAQ needs updating, and my problem remains.


Thanks,

Mike


RE: -query not working on cygwin/windows

2009-02-19 Thread Mike Ayers

You've read this, yes?

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-xdmcp-query

Specifically, check your Windows firewall config.  You will need to 
explicitly open the X11 port, as there is, IIUC, no outgoing packet from that 
port.


HTH,

Mike

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RE: xdvi unexplained locale problem

2009-02-18 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Dan Tsafrir
 Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 2:01 PM

 On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Jon TURNEY 
 jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk wrote:
 
  NLSPATH = 'C:\Programs\IBM\RunTime\%N;'
 
  You should probably try without that in your environment, 
 just to rule it
  out.
 
  $ unset NLSPATH
  $ xdvi
 
 It didn't work :( Any other ideas?

Try unsetting LOCPATH:

http://sourceware.org/ml/glibc-bugs/2004-05/msg00054.html


HTH,

Mike

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RE: starxwin.bat always misfires the xterm once - it works!

2009-02-18 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Franz di Coccio
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:40 AM

 PS That's a weird behaviour, anyway... I wonder why the pause 
 is needed
 only for the first execution after the system boot. 
 Whatever... Now it works :)

Most likely there's lots of shared libraries to load.  I suspect if you 
were to comment out the sleep and start X once, showinf the failure, if you 
were to run a bunch of memory-hogging apps in sequence, when you tried X again 
it would once again have the problem.  But are you curious enough to try this..?


$.02,

Mike

P.S.  I have no idea how many euros that is.

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RE: rgb.txt not honored in X7?

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Ayers

 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com 
 [mailto:cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of Jared Silva
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 4:13 PM

   However, in Cygwin X11R7, even though the rgb.txt file
 is the same, but in the new location,

Which is the new location?  I've been looking in the manual and FAQ, 
but seem to have acquired an embarassing blind spot that prevents me from 
knowing where to put startup files.  Also, is .Xresources now .Xdefaults?


Thanks,

Mike

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