Using only the X server of Cygwin

2002-07-07 Thread Rhialto

Hi, I am not subscribed to this mailing list but I would like to give
some feedback anyway. Please Cc: any responses to me.

I am testing the Cygwin/XFree server to use it as a remote display for
my Unix box which runs xdm: XWin -broadcast.

So in the installer I choose to de-install All, and to install *only*
XFree86-xserv. I noted that the installer installed a lot of things that
are not necessary for that, such as header files, info files, terminfo
stuff, static link libraries, xterm, sh, twm, etc. And it downloaded a
lot more which it apparently did not even install, such as bash, diff,
diffutils, fileutils, etc.

I could also do without all those megabytes of fonts, since I have a
perfectly ok font server, but apparently no way to specify it for the X
server.

I also downloaded xwinclip-test06, but that would not work because the X
server refused the connection, and I could find no way to do the
equivalent of xhost +localhost from its command line.

So in short, it would be nice to have the installer *just* the files
that are required to run XWin -broadcast, and nothing more. That would
be the XWin.exe itself, the dlls it really requires, rgb.txt, fonts if
no font server can be used, and maybe a few other files I am forgetting.
All that doesn't need to take the current 63.263.779 bytes (32.158.116
bytes downloaded).

Cheers,
-Olaf.
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Re: Using only the X server of Cygwin

2002-07-07 Thread Rhialto

On Sun 07 Jul 2002 at 15:35:22 -0400, Charles Wilson wrote:
 However, it SHOULD be possible -- and checking the ml archives on this 
 will help -- to create a custom 'setup.ini' script or pseudo-package 
 that setup.exe can read, to install ONLY what you want -- but this will 
 take a little work on your part.  Again, check the archives.

Thanks, I will do that.

I was indeed alerted by Slashdot to cygwin/xfree. I remember trying it
some time ago, but back then it was more difficult to get going, if I
got it going at all (I don't remember exactly). So in that view, there
is a lot of progress :-)

 These are all part of the 'Base' category.  If you explicitly 
 de-selected specific items -- even if they are in the 'Base' category -- 
 then setup shouldn't even download them.  There may be a bug in 
 setup.exe's handling of the Base category.  Sorry about that.

At least I am glad it did not install them, since that saves me the
trouble of verifying that they are really not necessary.

 (*) that is, cygwin-xfree should work OOB on a standalong machine 
 without any external font server, at least by default.  Do we really 
 want a windows newbie to understand oh, I also need to install the 
 fonts.  Of course not -- we do that by default IF the user installs X. 
  [Linux distros do this too, you know -- if you install XFree86 on Red 
 Hat, you *will* get the fonts.]

You have a point. But I also think that there will be lots of people
who would like cygwin/xfree to be a replacement for XWin-32 or other
similar products, so some configuration preset for that would come in
handy.

 --Chuck
Thanks,
-Olaf.
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___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert  -- The evil eye is caused by the black
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