RE: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Harold Hunt

Andrew,

I'm mirroring it right now... nobody else download from the link below.

Harold

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 Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
 
 
 Throw a browser at:
 http://flognat.myip.org/xbase 
 (ehm cable-modem, so it is not that fast, would
 apreciate if someone with faster connection could mirror it ;-))
 
 xbase, one package with all the required files.. 
 
 There are couple of small quirks, but I thought you should throw an
 eye on it before I fixed those.. ;-) at least it fires up when I start
 startxwin.bat.
 
 A couple of setup questions...  
 
 * Is it ok to ask the user questions and so on in the postinstall
   script??
 
 * there are some questions in the xinstall script about manually
   adding stuff to the termcap database, asks if it should replace some
   files.. do we need to do anything there?
 
 Some of the files are read-only, meaning that overwriting them can't
 be done, don't know if it is anything to worry about? (It was just me
 who had problems continuing a aborted installation)
 
 I am just mainly exercising :-) Feeling around with the setup and so
 on, assuming that I would do the version where we took all the
 tgz-files and made setup.hints for them all, where in the hierarchy
 should they be put??
 
 cygwin/contrib/xfree/Xbin/setup.hint
  Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
  Xetc/setup.hint
  Xetc/Xetc.tgz
 or  
 
 cygwin/contrib/Xbin/setup.hint
Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
Xetc/setup.hint
Xetc/Xetc.tgz
 
 When planning for this, I have the thought of basically,
 startup-scripts requires Xbin.tgz Xdoc.tgz Xetc.tgz Xfenc.tgz 
 Xfnts.tgz Xlib.tgz Xman.tgz 
 Xxserv.tgz.. these require startup-scripts (hmm maybe rename to 
 xstartupscripts?)
 
 the other packages like Xf100, Xfscl, Xnext.. requires
 startup-scripts.. 
 
 /Andy
 
 -- 
  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
 



RE: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Harold Hunt

Okay, I mirrored the files:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum

Harold


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Markebo
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 4:50 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)
 
 
 Throw a browser at:
 http://flognat.myip.org/xbase 
 (ehm cable-modem, so it is not that fast, would
 apreciate if someone with faster connection could mirror it ;-))
 
 xbase, one package with all the required files.. 
 
 There are couple of small quirks, but I thought you should throw an
 eye on it before I fixed those.. ;-) at least it fires up when I start
 startxwin.bat.
 
 A couple of setup questions...  
 
 * Is it ok to ask the user questions and so on in the postinstall
   script??
 
 * there are some questions in the xinstall script about manually
   adding stuff to the termcap database, asks if it should replace some
   files.. do we need to do anything there?
 
 Some of the files are read-only, meaning that overwriting them can't
 be done, don't know if it is anything to worry about? (It was just me
 who had problems continuing a aborted installation)
 
 I am just mainly exercising :-) Feeling around with the setup and so
 on, assuming that I would do the version where we took all the
 tgz-files and made setup.hints for them all, where in the hierarchy
 should they be put??
 
 cygwin/contrib/xfree/Xbin/setup.hint
  Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
  Xetc/setup.hint
  Xetc/Xetc.tgz
 or  
 
 cygwin/contrib/Xbin/setup.hint
Xbin/Xbin.tgz   
Xetc/setup.hint
Xetc/Xetc.tgz
 
 When planning for this, I have the thought of basically,
 startup-scripts requires Xbin.tgz Xdoc.tgz Xetc.tgz Xfenc.tgz 
 Xfnts.tgz Xlib.tgz Xman.tgz 
 Xxserv.tgz.. these require startup-scripts (hmm maybe rename to 
 xstartupscripts?)
 
 the other packages like Xf100, Xfscl, Xnext.. requires
 startup-scripts.. 
 
 /Andy
 
 -- 
  The eye of the beholder rests on the beauty!
 



RE: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Robert Collins



 -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Markebo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:17 PM

 | Or, were you planning on keeping the separate .tgz files around too?
 
 separate .tgz? I The executable tgz's of the xfree package? I 
 am considering giving it a try using them instead.. small 
 ptoblem might be version numbering, can I put version numbers 
 in the hints file? (the dist tgz files today is automagically 
 built by xfree makefile(?) and therefore I don't want to 
 change their name, to get it as easy as
 possible)

Yes, the version number for a file can be explicitly given, but if your
files are non-versioned, you will have mirror site headaches when
updates within an Xfree official release are done.

Versioning the tarballs takes only a couple of seconds - and can be
scripted.

Rob



Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:16:31AM +0100, Andrew Markebo wrote:
separate .tgz? I The executable tgz's of the xfree package? I am
considering giving it a try using them instead.. small ptoblem might
be version numbering, can I put version numbers in the hints file?
(the dist tgz files today is automagically built by xfree makefile(?)
and therefore I don't want to change their name, to get it as easy as
possible)

We've moved away from non-versioned tar files.  We're also moving rapidly
away from gzipped tar files.

My question was really to Suhaib or Harold.  I didn't know if they saw
any value in maintaining a separate installation tree using the old
method, with tgz files.  If they did then we wouldn't be able to
abrogate the xfree directory on sourceware.

cgf



RE: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Harold Hunt

For now I was just mirroring Andrew's files so that other people could
comment on them.  I haven't looked at them myself.

Harold

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 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:40 PM
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 Subject: Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they
 called?)


 On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
 Okay, I mirrored the files:
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum

 I'm not clear on whether these (mirrored) files are being formally
 offered for the cygwin release or not.

 I assume that these are just for people to play with but that will
 require a little bit of customization of local setup.ini's if
 you want to do anything useful.

 If they are intended for the release then please follow the instructions
 at http://cygwin.com/setup.html under Submitting a package.

 It seems like there were originally some questions that are best dealt
 with in the cygwin-apps mailing list (cc'ed), where discussion about
 that kind of stuff is commonplace.

 I am excited about getting this into the cygwin distribution.  I wonder
 how many people will discover it when it becomes part of the main
 distro.

 My inclination is to just add the xfree directory in the ftp area to the
 list of directories that setup scans for files to install.  Then you can
 create your hierarchy under that.

 Or, were you planning on keeping the separate .tgz files around too?

 cgf




Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
Okay, I mirrored the files:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum

I'm not clear on whether these (mirrored) files are being formally
offered for the cygwin release or not.

I assume that these are just for people to play with but that will
require a little bit of customization of local setup.ini's if
you want to do anything useful.

If they are intended for the release then please follow the instructions
at http://cygwin.com/setup.html under Submitting a package.

It seems like there were originally some questions that are best dealt
with in the cygwin-apps mailing list (cc'ed), where discussion about
that kind of stuff is commonplace.

I am excited about getting this into the cygwin distribution.  I wonder
how many people will discover it when it becomes part of the main
distro.

My inclination is to just add the xfree directory in the ftp area to the
list of directories that setup scans for files to install.  Then you can
create your hierarchy under that.

Or, were you planning on keeping the separate .tgz files around too?

cgf



RE: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Robert Collins



 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are 
 they called?)
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
 Okay, I mirrored the files: 
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum
..
 I assume that these are just for people to play with but that 
 will require a little bit of customization of local 
 setup.ini's if you want to do anything useful.

Harold...
If I can be so bold, can I suggest that you add a setup.ini to the
collection of files - just include the setup.hint contents (see
http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html for the setup.ini format.

This will let folk grab the X install via setup.exe with NO
customisation of local files - all they have to do is run setup.exe,
click on Add in the mirror screen and put
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase in as the URL. Then setup.exe will
merge the main setup.exe and the xbase one into one seamless view.

If you are going to have http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase and
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xclient and
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/... (while testing) then put the setup.ini
at http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo and include the path in the install:
rule.

Rob



Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are they called?)

2002-03-19 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:13:06PM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Faylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: And we have a xfree cygwin package.. (What are 
 they called?)
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 11:27:18PM -0500, Harold Hunt wrote:
 Okay, I mirrored the files: 
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/xbase-4.2.0-1.tar.bz2
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/setup.hint
 http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xbase/md5.sum
..
 I assume that these are just for people to play with but that 
 will require a little bit of customization of local 
 setup.ini's if you want to do anything useful.

Harold...
If I can be so bold, can I suggest that you add a setup.ini to the
collection of files - just include the setup.hint contents (see
http://www.cygwin.com/setup.html for the setup.ini format.

I don't see any reason to delay adopting XFree86 into the main setup.
So, lets not worry about customizing anything or offering alternate
setup.ini's.

cgf