Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
Hi, I am not a cygwin user. I am troubleshooting an issue with an old version of Adobe Framemaker (7.0) and I came across your thread in my googling. I wonder if it has some similarities. Our problem is that highlighting text causes the program to become non-responsive. I have found that our problem appears to be related to dwm.exe (to do with Aero). I would be interested to see if you can replicate the problem and 'remedy' it by going into the task manager and killing the dwm.exe process (it should restart itself automatically). You might find that disabling aero fixes your problem. For interest's sake I should mention (although we are still in the early stages of dealing with the problem) that we have been able to reproduce the problem on two of our intel h55 chipset boards with core i5 graphics. The other test machine with nVidia graphics did not have the problem. Hope this helps. Regards Jesse Bugden -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
Also, notepad can't paste while the X system is in the "hung" condition. Once it's killed, paste in notepad returns. I can send you the "Dr. Watson" error reports generated by Windows when it kills the "Non-Responsive" app - if you would find them at all helpful. Brian -Original Message- >From: Brian Kelly >Sent: Sep 15, 2010 11:12 AM >Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text > >See attached log run with XWin -logverbose 3 > >Only the X System hangs - not the whole PC. Other apps continue to work fine. >However, **while** the X system is hung, mintty loses it's cut-and-paste >capabilities. Once Windows or I with /bin/kill, stop the X system, mintty can >once again cut-and-paste (without any need to restart the app). > >I did have a system failure caused by a VPN memory clash that caused a "blue >screen of death" and instant system shutdown. It seems my X-Windows problem >began after that episode. I don't know if that is germane, but it's all I can >think of as a potential causal contributor. > >Thanks Jon > > >-----Original Message- >>From: Jon TURNEY >>Sent: Sep 15, 2010 7:13 AM > >>Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text >> >>On 14/09/2010 20:52, Brian Kelly wrote: >>> Thanks Jon for the quick reply. I attached a new log file generated with >>> an attempt to highlight - followed by the "hang". >> >>Can you please attach an X server log generated with the additional server >>option '-logverbose 3' >> >>Can you be more detailed about what you mean by a 'hang'? Does just the X >>server application become unresponsive? or your whole system? >> >>> Again, this worked PERFECTLY just yesterday. >> >>I understood the first time. >> >>I would suggest that something has changed on your system to cause this >>change >>in behaviour, but you are best placed to find out what that is. >> >>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Jon TURNEY >>>> Sent: Sep 14, 2010 1:47 PM >>> >>>> Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text >>>> >>>> On 14/09/2010 18:51, Brian Kelly wrote: >>>>> I've been using Cygwin X trouble-free for years, and am running the latest >>>>> distribution of X and the Cygwin1.dll for at least two weeks (since the >>>>> Cygwin 1.7.7.1 release). It's been fine until this morning when it started >>>>> locking on me whenever I used the mouse to highlight text. I have NO IDEA >>>>> what changed on my system to now cause this behavior. **ANY** help you can >>>>> give to assist me would be most appreciated since I use it for all my >>>>> development efforts. >>>> >>>> This is very likely to be some sort of problem with the clipboard >>>> integration >>>> code. >>>> >>>> You might find that using the '-noclipboard' option works around the >>>> problem >>>> (at the cost of not being able to cut/paste between Windows and X apps). >>>> >>>> An xserver log with '-logverbose 3' might shed a bit more light on what's >>>> going on. >> >>-- >>Jon TURNEY >>Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
See attached log run with XWin -logverbose 3 Only the X System hangs - not the whole PC. Other apps continue to work fine. However, **while** the X system is hung, mintty loses it's cut-and-paste capabilities. Once Windows or I with /bin/kill, stop the X system, mintty can once again cut-and-paste (without any need to restart the app). I did have a system failure caused by a VPN memory clash that caused a "blue screen of death" and instant system shutdown. It seems my X-Windows problem began after that episode. I don't know if that is germane, but it's all I can think of as a potential causal contributor. Thanks Jon -Original Message- >From: Jon TURNEY >Sent: Sep 15, 2010 7:13 AM >Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text > >On 14/09/2010 20:52, Brian Kelly wrote: >> Thanks Jon for the quick reply. I attached a new log file generated with >> an attempt to highlight - followed by the "hang". > >Can you please attach an X server log generated with the additional server >option '-logverbose 3' > >Can you be more detailed about what you mean by a 'hang'? Does just the X >server application become unresponsive? or your whole system? > >> Again, this worked PERFECTLY just yesterday. > >I understood the first time. > >I would suggest that something has changed on your system to cause this change >in behaviour, but you are best placed to find out what that is. > >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jon TURNEY >>> Sent: Sep 14, 2010 1:47 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text >>> >>> On 14/09/2010 18:51, Brian Kelly wrote: >>>> I've been using Cygwin X trouble-free for years, and am running the latest >>>> distribution of X and the Cygwin1.dll for at least two weeks (since the >>>> Cygwin 1.7.7.1 release). It's been fine until this morning when it started >>>> locking on me whenever I used the mouse to highlight text. I have NO IDEA >>>> what changed on my system to now cause this behavior. **ANY** help you can >>>> give to assist me would be most appreciated since I use it for all my >>>> development efforts. >>> >>> This is very likely to be some sort of problem with the clipboard >>> integration >>> code. >>> >>> You might find that using the '-noclipboard' option works around the problem >>> (at the cost of not being able to cut/paste between Windows and X apps). >>> >>> An xserver log with '-logverbose 3' might shed a bit more light on what's >>> going on. > >-- >Jon TURNEY >Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer XWin.0.log Description: Binary data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
On 14/09/2010 20:52, Brian Kelly wrote: Thanks Jon for the quick reply. I attached a new log file generated with an attempt to highlight - followed by the "hang". Can you please attach an X server log generated with the additional server option '-logverbose 3' Can you be more detailed about what you mean by a 'hang'? Does just the X server application become unresponsive? or your whole system? Again, this worked PERFECTLY just yesterday. I understood the first time. I would suggest that something has changed on your system to cause this change in behaviour, but you are best placed to find out what that is. -Original Message- From: Jon TURNEY Sent: Sep 14, 2010 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text On 14/09/2010 18:51, Brian Kelly wrote: I've been using Cygwin X trouble-free for years, and am running the latest distribution of X and the Cygwin1.dll for at least two weeks (since the Cygwin 1.7.7.1 release). It's been fine until this morning when it started locking on me whenever I used the mouse to highlight text. I have NO IDEA what changed on my system to now cause this behavior. **ANY** help you can give to assist me would be most appreciated since I use it for all my development efforts. This is very likely to be some sort of problem with the clipboard integration code. You might find that using the '-noclipboard' option works around the problem (at the cost of not being able to cut/paste between Windows and X apps). An xserver log with '-logverbose 3' might shed a bit more light on what's going on. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
Jon - I tried the -noclipboard option, and you were right. I can now highlight and cut-and-paste within the X environment. Hope that helps you. In the meantime, I will use minTTY, and try to get along without X-based GVim. I sure "hope" you can find something to correct. I will cooperate and try to give you anything you need from me that might assist. Thanks, Brian Kelly -Original Message- >From: Jon TURNEY >Sent: Sep 14, 2010 1:47 PM >Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text > >On 14/09/2010 18:51, Brian Kelly wrote: >> I've been using Cygwin X trouble-free for years, and am running the latest >> distribution of X and the Cygwin1.dll for at least two weeks (since the >> Cygwin 1.7.7.1 release). It's been fine until this morning when it started >> locking on me whenever I used the mouse to highlight text. I have NO IDEA >> what changed on my system to now cause this behavior. **ANY** help you can >> give to assist me would be most appreciated since I use it for all my >> development efforts. > >This is very likely to be some sort of problem with the clipboard integration >code. > >You might find that using the '-noclipboard' option works around the problem >(at the cost of not being able to cut/paste between Windows and X apps). > >An xserver log with '-logverbose 3' might shed a bit more light on what's >going on. > >-- >Jon TURNEY >Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
On 9/14/2010 4:05 PM, Brian Kelly wrote: Also - tried GVim, and it locked when I only got one character highlighted. Tried minTTY, and it works perfectly (of course it's not X-based). The cut-and-paste works flawlessly. Again, why "X" highlighting and cut-and-paste worked yesterday and not today is the real mystery. The machine has been rebooted numerous times as well - to no avail. You might want to look at what Windows, virus, and spyware updates occurred recently. It's also possible this is interference from BLODA. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _ A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
Also - tried GVim, and it locked when I only got one character highlighted. Tried minTTY, and it works perfectly (of course it's not X-based). The cut-and-paste works flawlessly. Again, why "X" highlighting and cut-and-paste worked yesterday and not today is the real mystery. The machine has been rebooted numerous times as well - to no avail. Brian Kelly -Original Message- >From: Brian Kelly >Sent: Sep 14, 2010 2:52 PM >Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text > >Thanks Jon for the quick reply. I attached a new log file generated with an >attempt to highlight - followed by the "hang". > >Again, this worked PERFECTLY just yesterday. I ran a chkdsk on my system just >about an hour ago, and while it repaired a few files, the problem remains. > >I'll try your -noclipboard suggestion, but unfortunately for me, I do a lot of >pasting back and forth between cygwin and native windows. I may have to go >back to using the CMD based bash shell console window that is the cygwin >default. > >Not relishing that thought ... > >Re-imaging my machine is not really an option either - that could set me back >a "week". > >Brian Kelly > > > >-Original Message- >>From: Jon TURNEY >>Sent: Sep 14, 2010 1:47 PM > >>Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text >> >>On 14/09/2010 18:51, Brian Kelly wrote: >>> I've been using Cygwin X trouble-free for years, and am running the latest >>> distribution of X and the Cygwin1.dll for at least two weeks (since the >>> Cygwin 1.7.7.1 release). It's been fine until this morning when it started >>> locking on me whenever I used the mouse to highlight text. I have NO IDEA >>> what changed on my system to now cause this behavior. **ANY** help you can >>> give to assist me would be most appreciated since I use it for all my >>> development efforts. >> >>This is very likely to be some sort of problem with the clipboard integration >>code. >> >>You might find that using the '-noclipboard' option works around the problem >>(at the cost of not being able to cut/paste between Windows and X apps). >> >>An xserver log with '-logverbose 3' might shed a bit more light on what's >>going on. >> >>-- >>Jon TURNEY >>Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
Thanks Jon for the quick reply. I attached a new log file generated with an attempt to highlight - followed by the "hang". Again, this worked PERFECTLY just yesterday. I ran a chkdsk on my system just about an hour ago, and while it repaired a few files, the problem remains. I'll try your -noclipboard suggestion, but unfortunately for me, I do a lot of pasting back and forth between cygwin and native windows. I may have to go back to using the CMD based bash shell console window that is the cygwin default. Not relishing that thought ... Re-imaging my machine is not really an option either - that could set me back a "week". Brian Kelly -Original Message- >From: Jon TURNEY >Sent: Sep 14, 2010 1:47 PM >Subject: Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text > >On 14/09/2010 18:51, Brian Kelly wrote: >> I've been using Cygwin X trouble-free for years, and am running the latest >> distribution of X and the Cygwin1.dll for at least two weeks (since the >> Cygwin 1.7.7.1 release). It's been fine until this morning when it started >> locking on me whenever I used the mouse to highlight text. I have NO IDEA >> what changed on my system to now cause this behavior. **ANY** help you can >> give to assist me would be most appreciated since I use it for all my >> development efforts. > >This is very likely to be some sort of problem with the clipboard integration >code. > >You might find that using the '-noclipboard' option works around the problem >(at the cost of not being able to cut/paste between Windows and X apps). > >An xserver log with '-logverbose 3' might shed a bit more light on what's >going on. > >-- >Jon TURNEY >Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer XWin.0.log Description: Binary data -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Latest Cygwin X hangs when mouse is used to highlight text
On 14/09/2010 18:51, Brian Kelly wrote: I've been using Cygwin X trouble-free for years, and am running the latest distribution of X and the Cygwin1.dll for at least two weeks (since the Cygwin 1.7.7.1 release). It's been fine until this morning when it started locking on me whenever I used the mouse to highlight text. I have NO IDEA what changed on my system to now cause this behavior. **ANY** help you can give to assist me would be most appreciated since I use it for all my development efforts. This is very likely to be some sort of problem with the clipboard integration code. You might find that using the '-noclipboard' option works around the problem (at the cost of not being able to cut/paste between Windows and X apps). An xserver log with '-logverbose 3' might shed a bit more light on what's going on. -- Jon TURNEY Volunteer Cygwin/X X Server maintainer -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
