Re: changing font

2010-09-01 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:


Yes, it displays the font but it does not set the font.  Only the
'quit' button works.


I was asking about the result with xfd to be sure that the font itself is 
recognized.  I don't see anything wrong with the description of your 
changes to the X resources.


Another place to check is whether there are conflicting font resources 
shown, e.g., using appres XTerm.


Beyond that, I generally just compile xterm with its debugging trace
enabled and see what resource value is actually used.  It's also possible
to get the nominal value of the font using an escape sequence in a script
or program such as xtermset.



On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dickey dic...@his.com wrote:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:


The above worked on my previous computer, but now it does not work with my
current computer.  This is what I tried:
1. a)  Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xdefaults
  b) typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

next,
2. a) Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xresources
  b)  typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

But neither one affected the xterm font.


does
       xfd -fn lucidasanstypewriter-10

display the font you asked for?


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Re: changing font

2010-09-01 Thread matias kaukonen
based on the result of 'appres XTerm', i changed .Xdefaults to:
*VT100.utf8Fonts.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10
This worked -- thanks.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Thomas Dickey dic...@his.com wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:

 Yes, it displays the font but it does not set the font.  Only the
 'quit' button works.

 I was asking about the result with xfd to be sure that the font itself is
 recognized.  I don't see anything wrong with the description of your changes
 to the X resources.

 Another place to check is whether there are conflicting font resources
 shown, e.g., using appres XTerm.

 Beyond that, I generally just compile xterm with its debugging trace
 enabled and see what resource value is actually used.  It's also possible
 to get the nominal value of the font using an escape sequence in a script
 or program such as xtermset.


 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dickey dic...@his.com wrote:

 On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:

 The above worked on my previous computer, but now it does not work with
 my
 current computer.  This is what I tried:
 1. a)  Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xdefaults
   b) typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

 next,
 2. a) Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xresources
   b)  typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

 But neither one affected the xterm font.

 does
        xfd -fn lucidasanstypewriter-10

 display the font you asked for?

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Re: changing font

2010-08-31 Thread matias kaukonen
Yes, it displays the font but it does not set the font.  Only the
'quit' button works.

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Thomas Dickey dic...@his.com wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:

 The above worked on my previous computer, but now it does not work with my
 current computer.  This is what I tried:
 1. a)  Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xdefaults
   b) typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

 next,
 2. a) Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xresources
   b)  typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

 But neither one affected the xterm font.

 does
        xfd -fn lucidasanstypewriter-10

 display the font you asked for?

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Re: changing font

2010-08-30 Thread matias kaukonen
The above worked on my previous computer, but now it does not work with my
current computer.  This is what I tried:
1. a)  Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xdefaults
b) typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

next,
2. a) Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xresources
b)  typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

But neither one affected the xterm font.

-M.

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Re: changing font

2010-08-30 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:


The above worked on my previous computer, but now it does not work with my
current computer.  This is what I tried:
1. a)  Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xdefaults
   b) typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

next,
2. a) Added XTerm[.*]vt100.font:lucidasanstypewriter-10 to .Xresources
   b)  typed: xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; xrdb ~/.Xresources

But neither one affected the xterm font.


does
xfd -fn lucidasanstypewriter-10

display the font you asked for?

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Re: changing font

2010-07-20 Thread Reid Thompson
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:00:21PM -0400, matias kaukonen wrote:
 -
 xlsfonts
 -
 . . .
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso10646-1
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-1
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-10
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-13
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-14
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-15
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-2
 -adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--14-140-75-75-m-90-iso8859-3
 
 -
 Then I changed .Xdefaults to
 -
 aterm*font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1
 XTerm.font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1
 urxvt*font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1
 -
 Next, I selected the font with xfontsel, and then started
 up an xterm
 -
 result: the font did not change
 Is something incorrect or out of order?
 
 matt.
 
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did you restart X after modifying Xdefaults?

this page
http://sgenomics.org/~jtang/blog/posts/Reloading_Xdefaults_without_restarting_X/

notes that

To reread your .Xresources file, and throw away your old resources, you
can type:

xrdb ~/.Xdefaults


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Re: changing font

2010-07-20 Thread matias kaukonen
I tried both methods and neither one produced the new font.

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Re: changing font

2010-07-20 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:


-
Then I changed .Xdefaults to
-
aterm*font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1
XTerm.font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1
urxvt*font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1


Only the second has the potential for affecting xterm.
But there's no match for XTerm.font.
Depending on how it is compiled, these can match:

XTerm.vt100.font
XTerm*vt100.font

(the latter can match an intermediate level, which is used in the 
configuration that provides the toolbar/menubar).


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Re: changing font

2010-07-20 Thread matias kaukonen
Success!! And, I know a little more about how the system works.

thanks,
--matias

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Thomas Dickey dic...@his.com wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:


 -
 Then I changed .Xdefaults to

 -
 aterm*font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1
 XTerm.font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1
 urxvt*font:-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-m-100-iso10646-1

 Only the second has the potential for affecting xterm.
 But there's no match for XTerm.font.
 Depending on how it is compiled, these can match:

 XTerm.vt100.font
 XTerm*vt100.font

 (the latter can match an intermediate level, which is used in the
 configuration that provides the toolbar/menubar).

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Re: changing font

2010-07-13 Thread matias kaukonen
Based on a previous suggestion:

fc-list | less
-
Luxi Serif:style=Regular
LucidaBright:style=Italic
Utopia:style=Bold Italic
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
Luxi Serif:style=Bold
LucidaTypewriter:style=Sans Bold
Fixed:style=Bold
. . .
-
So I setup my .Xdefaults to:
-
XTerm.VT100.scrollBar:  True
XTerm.VT100.visualBell: True
XTerm.VT100.loginShell: True
XTerm*scrollbar:True
XTerm*background:   Wheat
XTerm*foreground:   Black
XTerm*font: Luxi Serif:style=Bold
*renderFont:true
---
The result, when I started up an xterm, was:
---
Warning: Color name Wheat  is not defined
Warning: Color name Black  is not defined
xterm:  unable to open font Luxi Serif , trying fixed

What would you suggest for this case?
matt

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Re: changing font

2010-07-13 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:


Based on a previous suggestion:

fc-list | less
-
Luxi Serif:style=Regular
LucidaBright:style=Italic
Utopia:style=Bold Italic
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
Luxi Serif:style=Bold
LucidaTypewriter:style=Sans Bold
Fixed:style=Bold
.. . .
-
So I setup my .Xdefaults to:
-
   XTerm.VT100.scrollBar:  True
   XTerm.VT100.visualBell: True
   XTerm.VT100.loginShell: True
XTerm*scrollbar:True
XTerm*background:   Wheat
XTerm*foreground:   Black
XTerm*font: Luxi Serif:style=Bold


This might work:

  XTerm*font: Luxi Serif


*renderFont:true
---
The result, when I started up an xterm, was:
---
Warning: Color name Wheat  is not defined
Warning: Color name Black  is not defined
xterm:  unable to open font Luxi Serif , trying fixed


xterm is only looking for the face-name (making it handle the modifiers
in the pattern is something that's been recently suggested).

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Re: changing font

2010-07-13 Thread Reid Thompson
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 04:59:11PM -0400, matias kaukonen wrote:
 1. Could someone pls post instructions about how to reply to an existing post.
 2. I have a font I'd like to use and its located at
 /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF with
 administrator permissions.
 3. How can I make this font the default for an xterm?  Do I have to
 set the path in
 some manner?

lookup the xlsfonts and xfontsel packages and how to use them to get a
font.

i.e.

$ xlsfonts |grep -i terminus|grep medium
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso10646-1
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-1
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-13
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-15
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-16
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-2
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-5
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-7
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-iso8859-9
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-koi8-r
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-koi8-u
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-microsoft-cp1251
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--0-0-72-72-c-0-paratype-pt154
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso10646-1
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-1
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-13
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-15
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-16
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-2
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-5
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-7
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-iso8859-9
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-koi8-r
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-koi8-u
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-microsoft-cp1251
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-c-60-paratype-pt154
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1
-xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-80-iso8859-1
snip

$ grep -i termin .Xdefaults 
aterm*font: -xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal-*-12-120-72-72-c-60-iso10646-1
Xterm.font: -xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal-*-12-120-72-72-c-60-iso10646-1
urxvt*font: -xos4-terminus-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-c-80-iso10646-1


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Re: changing font

2010-07-13 Thread Reid Thompson
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 10:33:14AM -0400, Reid Thompson wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 04:59:11PM -0400, matias kaukonen wrote:
  1. Could someone pls post instructions about how to reply to an existing 
  post.


a starting point would be to google
mailing list netiquette

some pointers in general,
   before you hit send, look at To:  Cc:  Bcc:   etc and make sure that
   you're sending to who you want to addresss.  Generally, this will be
   the mailing list address only.  In rare/some cases, it may be
   directly to the poster -- but that is generally *rare*
   don't reply to digests
   trim the original email text to what is pertinent to your response
   don't top post -- either bottom post or inline post



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Re: changing font

2010-07-12 Thread Thomas Dickey

On Mon, 12 Jul 2010, matias kaukonen wrote:


1. Could someone pls post instructions about how to reply to an existing post.
2. I have a font I'd like to use and its located at
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF with
administrator permissions.
3. How can I make this font the default for an xterm?  Do I have to
set the path in
some manner?


You have to tell xterm to use the font by setting some resource values.
One is the name of the font, which you may be able to find using fc-list
(that would be the faceName resource), and the other is the renderFont
resource, set that to true to tell xterm to use TTF's rather than bitmap
fonts by default.

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RE: changing font

2010-06-22 Thread Mike Ayers
 From: cygwin-xfree-ow...@cygwin.com [mailto:cygwin-xfree-
 ow...@cygwin.com] On Behalf Of matias kaukonen
 Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 6:06 AM

 I'm new to cygwin/xfree and I'm trying to change my xterm font.   What
 I did was, typed 'xlsfonts' at
 the command prompt.  Then I selected a font name and added it to my
 .Xdefaults, for example
 'XTerm*font: -*-courier-bold-r-normal-*-*-180-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'.
 This produced the following message:
 xterm:  unable to open font *, trying fixed I repeat this
 procedure about 10 times and
 got the same message each time.   Is this fixable?  If so, what would
 you suggest?

The old trick is to spark up xfontsel, which can help you narrow down 
to the font you want.  Then push the select button, which copies the 
(oft-mistyped) font spec onto the clipboard.

Next, in an xterm, type xterm -fn ', dump the clipboard, close the 
single quote and hit return to verify that the font is usable.

If that works, then you get to double check your .XDefaults grammar.


HTH,

Mike

P.S.  I got my setup to use that massive font as a test, and I envy your 
monitor, weak soul that I am.