Re: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font

2009-02-20 Thread Zdzislaw Meglicki
:03:13 PM
Subject: Re: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font

Zdzislaw Meglicki wrote:
 I have installed the latest version of Cygwin + X11 under Longhorn/Vista Ver 
 6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1,
 running under WOW64 on AMD64. Cygcheck says that Longhorn/Vista (not yet 
 supported!) but things seem
 to work, so far. I have downloaded the lot today, Feb 18, 2009, and the 
 version numbers on X11 are:
 
 xorg-cf-files                  1.0.2-7
 xorg-docs                      1.4-1
 xorg-scripts                    1.0.1-1
 xorg-server                    1.5.3-6
 xorg-sgml-doctools              1.2-1
 xorg-util-macros                1.2.1-1
 xorg-x11-base                  7.4-1
 xorg-x11-bin-dlls              7.4-1
 
 The installation and post-install all went smoothly, but on trying to start 
 X11, xterm, as invoked by startxwin.sh, would say Unable to load any usable 
 ISO8859 font and exit. X11 would run though and xterm -fn fixed would come 
 up just fine, sic. I have eventually tracked the problem to... there not 
 being any fonts.dir files in the /usr/share/fonts subdirectories. After I had 
 made these manually with mkfontdir the problem went away.
 
 Looks like a bug in post-install. But... I did not have this problem on XP, 
 on which I had installed Cygwin and X11 yesterday only. So, it seems to be 
 Vista specific. 

This problem probably depends on which font packages you had installed, which I 
can't tell.

Can you check /var/log/setup.log to see if the post-install scripts for the 
font packages ran successfully or not?

 Another Vista post-install difference: there are no X11 entries in the start 
 menu.

This should be installed by the xinit package, which I can't tell if you've 
installed or not.

If you have, perhaps you could check the setup.log similarly.

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Re: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font

2009-02-19 Thread Jon TURNEY

Zdzislaw Meglicki wrote:

I have installed the latest version of Cygwin + X11 under Longhorn/Vista Ver 
6.0 Build 6001 Service Pack 1,
running under WOW64 on AMD64. Cygcheck says that Longhorn/Vista (not yet 
supported!) but things seem
to work, so far. I have downloaded the lot today, Feb 18, 2009, and the version 
numbers on X11 are:

xorg-cf-files   1.0.2-7
xorg-docs   1.4-1
xorg-scripts1.0.1-1
xorg-server 1.5.3-6
xorg-sgml-doctools  1.2-1
xorg-util-macros1.2.1-1
xorg-x11-base   7.4-1
xorg-x11-bin-dlls   7.4-1

The installation and post-install all went smoothly, but on trying to start X11, xterm, 
as invoked by startxwin.sh, would say Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font 
and exit. X11 would run though and xterm -fn fixed would come up just fine, sic. I have 
eventually tracked the problem to... there not being any fonts.dir files in the 
/usr/share/fonts subdirectories. After I had made these manually with mkfontdir the 
problem went away.

Looks like a bug in post-install. But... I did not have this problem on XP, on which I had installed Cygwin and X11 yesterday only. So, it seems to be Vista specific. 


This problem probably depends on which font packages you had installed, which 
I can't tell.


Can you check /var/log/setup.log to see if the post-install scripts for the 
font packages ran successfully or not?



Another Vista post-install difference: there are no X11 entries in the start 
menu.


This should be installed by the xinit package, which I can't tell if you've 
installed or not.


If you have, perhaps you could check the setup.log similarly.


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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-10 Thread Dan Moulding
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Dan Moulding dmould...@gmail.com wrote:
 I typically update my Cygwin installations about once a month, and
 rarely run into any difficulties. However, this morning after updating
 I could no longer start any X applications due to some apparent font
 problems. Please note that I successfully installed the *new* Cygwin/X
 a couple of months ago, and previously resolved some of the seemingly
 more common font problems (like boxes showing up in emacs).

 This time, I was getting Unable to load any usable iso8859 font
 errors anytime I'd try to start xterm. I searched the FAQs and the
 web, but was unable to find any suggestions that led to a solution. At
 one point, while trying to fix the problem, I also got the could not
 open default font 'fixed' error, but none of the solutions listed in
 the FAQ were applicable (either the problem described was obviously
 not a match, or the solution, like re-installing all fonts, had
 already been tried).


I updated to the latest packages today (2/10/09) because I was hopeful
that some of the recent font-related X.org fixes would have solved
this problem. After updating, I still received the Unable to load any
usable iso8859 font error.

I decided to uninstall *all* X11 related packages from my system, and
then reinstall a new X.org installation by selecting just those things
I knew I would need (e.g. fonts) and things I'd want (e.g. emacs-X11,
xterm, etc.). I did exactly that and it seems to have worked. I no
longer get the Unable to load any usable iso8859 font error when
trying to start xterm.

On a side note, during this process it became apparent that the plain
emacs package depends on xemacs-emacs-common which depends on xemacs
which depends on a bunch of X.org stuff. This seems to imply that you
can no longer install emacs without also installing X. This doesn't
seem right, but to be honest, I can't remember if, prior to the major
X.org update, installing emacs without X worked because I've always
used them both.

Cheers,

-- Dan Moulding

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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread amorphia


Christopher Faylor-8 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:04:08AM -0800, amorphia wrote:
Can I plead for developers, please please don't make setup.exe broken? I
am
sure there are many many users like me who don't expect to have to be
monitoring some random mailing lists in order to work out what else you
need
to do when running setup.exe with default options. Fine, if you make a
mistake with dependencies. But I think there must be a lot of other people
out there like me who are tech savvy enough to need cygwin but not tech
savvy enough for it to be a walk in the park when this happens, so surely
it's not OK to deliberately alter cygwin so that setup.exe no longer
installs everything you need for the most basic purpose, i.e. opening an
xterm window?
 
 Huh?  This should be a typical scenario wherein you report a *problem*
 and hope that someone will be available to help you fix it.  Once it is
 fixed, then theoretically it will no longer be a problem.
 Characterising this as somehow intentional or as the result of
 inattention is insulting and counterproductive.
 
 

Apologies for causing offence. I have the utmost respect and gratitude for
developers of free software, and I've never come across another scientific
researcher who includes such acknowledgements in articles for publication,
as I do.

As I wrote: if this was a mistake, then fair enough. I reckoned it probably
wasn't a mistake, because in the release notes for the package:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree-announce/2008-11/msg0.html

it clearly states that the package doesn't provide everything it needs to
work. I assumed that whoever incorporated the package into setup.exe would
have carefully read those notes. I might be wrong, or I might have
misunderstood something else, if so I apologise. But if I'm not wrong, then
this was rather careless.

Please note when judging me that the main point of my post was to provide an
(albeit inelegant) solution to a problem. The plea was made in passing.

Cheers,

Ben
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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread Rajesh Advani


Dan Moulding wrote:
 
 I typically update my Cygwin installations about once a month, and
 rarely run into any difficulties. However, this morning after updating
 I could no longer start any X applications due to some apparent font
 problems. Please note that I successfully installed the *new* Cygwin/X
 a couple of months ago, and previously resolved some of the seemingly
 more common font problems (like boxes showing up in emacs).
 
 This time, I was getting Unable to load any usable iso8859 font
 errors anytime I'd try to start xterm.
 

I had the exact same problem, and a couple of others including missing adobe 
fonts.
Here are the packages I installed, to get over font related issues. I may have 
installed a few extra ones.

font-adobe-dpi100 - To fix the adobe font issues
font-adobe-dpi75  - To fix the adobe font issues
font-bitstream-dpi100 - Just in case
font-bitstream-dpi75 - Just in case
font-bitstream-type1 - Just in case
font-bitstream-vera-ttf - Just in case
font-misc-misc - I think I read something somewhere on the internet which led 
me to install this. Don't remember.
xorg-scripts - I had trouble with xinit - (specifically the X Win Server 
shortcut not working from D drive which I've mentioned in another post)

I don't think I installed anything else other than the default upgrade options.

If someone can tell me how to retrieve a list of all installed packages on my 
system, I can send that over too.

Rajesh



  

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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread Larry Hall (Cygwin X)

Rajesh Advani wrote:

If someone can tell me how to retrieve a list of all installed packages
on  my system,...


This link is a hint:


Problem reports:   http://cygwin.com/problems.html



But if you just want a list (with versions), cygcheck -cd is what you're
looking for.


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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-04 Thread Matt Stave
I hope this isn't a double post, my 1st msg was bounced for having
some sort in inline html.  Anyway, I'm having the same issue.  I
upgraded and now X doesn't start, and has the same error.   I tried
reinstalling fonts, adding additional fonts, etc.  Even renaming my
cygwin and download dirs and creating a fresh (unless there were
registry hooks from beyond the grave) install, same issue.I read
the upgrade info, but to my limited understanding the known issue were
around custom startup scripts, while I just use the vanilla stuff
that's provied. If I start the server from the start menu icon,
the server loads, but no x apps load.  If, for example, from bash I
try and start xterm, I get a msg about display not set, which I fix,
and then:

$ xterm
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
Error: Aborting: no font found

-

Here's the error when I use startx instead: (and log file at the bottom).

$ startx
xauth:  creating new authority file /home/mstave/.serverauth.9888

/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: line 47: twm: command not found
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: line 48: xclock: command not found
Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 fontWarning: Warning:
Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font
Error: Aborting: no font foundError: Aborting: no font found
Aborting: no font found



waiting for X server to shut down .
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Here's what I have installed - my apologies if there's more here than's needed.

Cygwin Package Information
Package  Version
_update-info-dir 00796-1
alternatives 1.3.30c-2
ash  20040127-4
autossh  1.4b-1
base-files   3.7-1
base-passwd  2.2-1
bash 3.2.48-21
bash-completion  20060301-2
bzip21.0.5-2
coreutils6.10-2
crypt1.1-1
csih 0.1.8-1
cygrunsrv1.34-1
cygutils 1.3.2-1
cygwin   1.5.25-15
cygwin-doc   1.4-4
diffutils2.8.7-1
e2fsprogs1.35-3
editrights   1.01-2
expat2.0.1-1
findutils4.4.0-3
font-adobe-dpi1001.0.0-1
font-alias   1.0.1-1
font-bh-dpi100   1.0.0-1
font-encodings   1.0.2-1
fontconfig   2.6.0-1
gawk 3.1.6-1
grep 2.5.3-1
groff1.19.2-2
gzip 1.3.12-2
inetutils1.5-4
less 382-1
libbz2_1 1.0.5-2
libdb4.5 4.5.20.2-2
libexpat12.0.1-1
libexpat1-devel  2.0.1-1
libfontconfig1   2.6.0-1
libfontenc1  1.0.4-2
libfreetype262.3.8-1
libfreetype6 2.3.8-1
libgdbm4 1.8.3-8
libGL1   7.2-2
libICE6  1.0.4-2
libiconv21.12-1
libintl2 0.12.1-3
libintl3 0.14.5-1
libintl8 0.17-3
libncurses8  5.5-3
libpcre0 7.8-1
libpixman1_0 0.12.0-1
libpopt0 1.6.4-4
libreadline6 5.2.13-11
libSM6   1.1.0-1
libwrap0 7.6-4
libX11_6 1.1.5-2
libXau6  1.0.4-1
libXaw7  1.0.5-1
libxcb-xlib0 1.1-2
libxcb1  1.1-2
libXdmcp61.0.2-3
libXext6 1.0.4-1
libXft2  2.1.13-1
libxkbfile1  1.0.5-2
libXmu6  1.0.4-1
libXmuu1 1.0.4-1
libXpm4  3.5.7-2
libXrender1  0.9.4-2
libXt6   1.0.5-2
login1.9-8
luit 1.0.3-1
man  1.6e-1
minires  1.02-1
mkfontdir1.0.4-1
mkfontscale  1.0.5-1
ncftp3.2.1-1
openssh  5.1p1-10
openssl  0.9.8j-1
perl 5.10.0-5
ping 1.0-1
rebase   2.4.4-1
rgb  1.0.3-1
rsync3.0.4-1
run  1.1.10-1
sed  4.1.5-2
tar  1.21-1
termcap  20050421-1
terminfo 5.5_20061104-1
texinfo  4.8a-1
tzcode   2008h-1
util-linux   2.14.1-1
which2.20-1
X-start-menu-icons   1.0.4-1
xauth1.0.3-1
xcursor-themes   1.0.1-1
xinit1.1.1-1
xkbcomp  1.0.5-1
xkeyboard-config 1.4-1
xman 1.0.3-3
xmodmap  1.0.3-1
xorg-server  1.5.3-5
xrdb 1.0.5-1
xterm238-1
zlib 1.2.3-2
zsync0.5-1

-

XWin.0.log:
Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 1.5.3.0 (20090121)
Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com
XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/bin/X :0 -auth /home/mstave/.serverauth.9888

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1400 h 1050

Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-03 Thread amorphia


Dan Moulding wrote:
 
 I typically update my Cygwin installations about once a month, and
 rarely run into any difficulties. However, this morning after updating
 I could no longer start any X applications due to some apparent font
 problems. Please note that I successfully installed the *new* Cygwin/X
 a couple of months ago, and previously resolved some of the seemingly
 more common font problems (like boxes showing up in emacs).
 
 This time, I was getting Unable to load any usable iso8859 font
 errors anytime I'd try to start xterm.
 

I was getting exactly the same problem after updating today. Some googling
found this post:

http://gaoithe.livejournal.com/19556.html

Which suggested that it could be fixed by updating some packages like fonts
which are not currently automatically updated by setup.exe. After some time
spent reading the information linked to by that post, I still couldn't work
out exactly what packages were missing. So I just ticked to update every
single thing under X11, and ran it. Walnut... sledgehammer... worked.

Can I plead for developers, please please don't make setup.exe broken? I am
sure there are many many users like me who don't expect to have to be
monitoring some random mailing lists in order to work out what else you need
to do when running setup.exe with default options. Fine, if you make a
mistake with dependencies. But I think there must be a lot of other people
out there like me who are tech savvy enough to need cygwin but not tech
savvy enough for it to be a walk in the park when this happens, so surely
it's not OK to deliberately alter cygwin so that setup.exe no longer
installs everything you need for the most basic purpose, i.e. opening an
xterm window?

Cheers!

Ben
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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-03 Thread Jon TURNEY

Dan Moulding wrote:

This time, I was getting Unable to load any usable iso8859 font
errors anytime I'd try to start xterm. I searched the FAQs and the
web, but was unable to find any suggestions that led to a solution. At
one point, while trying to fix the problem, I also got the could not
open default font 'fixed' error, but none of the solutions listed in
the FAQ were applicable (either the problem described was obviously
not a match, or the solution, like re-installing all fonts, had
already been tried).


This is really strange.  Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font comes from 
Xt, when it has failed to load the requested font, it tries a fallback of 
-*-*-*-R-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-ISO8859-*, which should always match the built-in 
font -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1 (aka 
fixed, which the server should refuse to start if it can't find)



As a last resort, I used the Cygwin setup log to figure out which
packages had been updated, and rolled them all back to the versions I
was previously using. Now my X applications are working fine again, so
something in one of the updated packages definitely triggered this
problem.


xorg-server-1.5.3-5 made a change to the way the built-in font-path element is 
made available, I suspect this is somehow causing problems.


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Re: Unable to load any usable iso8859 font

2009-02-03 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 05:04:08AM -0800, amorphia wrote:
Can I plead for developers, please please don't make setup.exe broken? I am
sure there are many many users like me who don't expect to have to be
monitoring some random mailing lists in order to work out what else you need
to do when running setup.exe with default options. Fine, if you make a
mistake with dependencies. But I think there must be a lot of other people
out there like me who are tech savvy enough to need cygwin but not tech
savvy enough for it to be a walk in the park when this happens, so surely
it's not OK to deliberately alter cygwin so that setup.exe no longer
installs everything you need for the most basic purpose, i.e. opening an
xterm window?

Huh?  This should be a typical scenario wherein you report a *problem*
and hope that someone will be available to help you fix it.  Once it is
fixed, then theoretically it will no longer be a problem.
Characterising this as somehow intentional or as the result of
inattention is insulting and counterproductive.

As you've found, the expectations that you can just blindly update to a
major new release and expect that there will not be any problems and
that you will not have to do any homework are obviously not working for
you.  You can try, if you want, to put the onus of perfection on the
people providing you with (free) software but you're going to be
fighting a losing battle.

If any of this bothers you then maybe you should investigate using a
commercial product where you can castigate the people you pay when their
installation experiences hiccups and is not a walk in the park.

cgf

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