Re: how is cygstart different from cmd /c or how to have cygstart start 'inline'?
On 12/21/2018 5:15 AM, Brian Inglis wrote: See: https://github.com/mintty/mintty/wiki/Tips#inputoutput-interaction-with-alien-programs --- Will have to read it in more detail...look like alot of neat things to try out (not sure how useful relating to my question, but maybe...so much there). If it's a console cmd it should run under a term without any problems: $ cmd /c ver --- Well, that's the rub -- if it started so easily, I wouldn't be asking :-). ** Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17134.471] or you may need to use https://github.com/rprichard/winpty --- that looked cool until I got a bit farther... - allows running Windows console programs under mintty or Cygwin's sshd with properly-functioning input and output by starting winpty-agent with a hidden console window, --- Iii!. Like the Console2 program... stretches compatibility to the limit. which bridges between the console API and terminal input/output escape codes, polls the hidden console's screen buffer for changes and generates a corresponding stream of output. --- Yeah, it was that polling thing that was a prob -- fast enough poll to provide real-time I/O = fast enough to be a noticeable drain on the cpu. Polling=bad. Surprised no one has come out with an interrupt driven version -- so easy on Linux, but on windows...like extracting teeth it seems. ** -- its a finicky GUI login for a game (BladeandSoul) that has a evil, malware-like anti-cheat engine that is currently crashing on my machine. It does it's best to keep you from debugging it. Just trying to start it without using its desktop-provided link is a first level of pickiness). Best I've gotten so far is using cygstart. (Feel free to try it out if you want -- free download as well from www.bladeandsoul.com; the installer will install the launcher which is small. My first step is trying to start the launcher "inline" (not in a separate window). Beyond the launcher, it will invite you to create a free login, and then it goes on to start downloading game (about 10G to start, 30G beyond that), but quit at that point if you just wanna run instaler. Trying to start it with cmd /c, results in some fatal error but cygstart works -- "magic". :-) Thanks for the ideas/comments. -linda -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: how is cygstart different from cmd /c or how to have cygstart start 'inline'?
On 12/21/2018 2:33 AM, L A Walsh wrote: Got a program that starts under cygstart, but I'd like to be able to start it without starting up the program in a new window..so was trying cmd /c. I compared env's and noted both PATH and TMP had been converted back to the backslash using case, so I did that manually: if ((usecmd)); then export TMP=$(cygpath -w $TMP) my newpath="" my sep="" readarray -t pathar < <(echo -E "$PATH"|tr ":" "\n") for p in "${pathar[@]}"; do n=$(cygpath -w "$p") newpath="$newpath$sep$n" #echo -E "newpath=$newpath" sep=";" done export Path=$newpath fi But no luck in launching (cygstart case works): cd "$ldir" && { if ((usecmd)); then 'c:/windows/system32/cmd.exe' /c "$lpath" "${args[@]}" else cygstart "$lpath" "${args[@]}" fi } I use: mailto:cygsim...@users.sourceforge.net # https://sourceforge.net/p/cygsimple # File: cmd `cygpath "$COMSPEC"` "$@" and #!/usr/bin/env bash # Copyright (C) 2018, cygSimple # mailto:cygsim...@users.sourceforge.net # https://sourceforge.net/p/cygsimple # File: start cmd /c start `cygpath -w -- "${@//&/^&}"` The file /usr/local/bin/start uses the file /usr/local/bin/cmd because of PATH. I use another such file to start the Windows version of gvim. #!/usr/bin/env bash # Copyright (C) 2018, cygSimple # mailto:cygsim...@users.sourceforge.net # https://sourceforge.net/p/cygsimple export PATH=/c/opt/vim/vim74:"$PATH" start /c/opt/vim/vim74/gvim `cygpath -w -- "$@"` & So what else does cygstart do that I might setup before a "cmd /c" to get the target to run? Don't know. Or anyway to have cygstart run the command with its output in the current window? A windows program will have a different console by default. A console program could can communicate to the same console as it is started in unless it uses pty (e.g. /c/windows/system32/ftp). -- cyg Simple -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: how is cygstart different from cmd /c or how to have cygstart start 'inline'?
On 2018-12-21 00:33, L A Walsh wrote: > Got a program that starts under cygstart, but I'd like to be able to start it > without starting up the program in a new window..so was trying cmd /c. See: https://github.com/mintty/mintty/wiki/Tips#inputoutput-interaction-with-alien-programs > I compared env's and noted both PATH and TMP had been converted back to the > backslash using case, so I did that manually: > But no luck in launching (cygstart case works): > cd "$ldir" && { > if ((usecmd)); then > 'c:/windows/system32/cmd.exe' /c "$lpath" "${args[@]}" > else > cygstart "$lpath" "${args[@]}" > fi > } > So what else does cygstart do that I might setup before a "cmd /c" to get the > target to run? START - Starts a separate window to run a specified program or command > Or anyway to have cygstart run the command with its output in the current > window? If it's a console cmd it should run under a term without any problems: $ cmd /c ver Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17134.471] or you may need to use https://github.com/rprichard/winpty - allows running Windows console programs under mintty or Cygwin's sshd with properly-functioning input and output by starting winpty-agent with a hidden console window, which bridges between the console API and terminal input/output escape codes, polls the hidden console's screen buffer for changes and generates a corresponding stream of output. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
how is cygstart different from cmd /c or how to have cygstart start 'inline'?
Got a program that starts under cygstart, but I'd like to be able to start it without starting up the program in a new window..so was trying cmd /c. I compared env's and noted both PATH and TMP had been converted back to the backslash using case, so I did that manually: if ((usecmd)); then export TMP=$(cygpath -w $TMP) my newpath="" my sep="" readarray -t pathar < <(echo -E "$PATH"|tr ":" "\n") for p in "${pathar[@]}"; do n=$(cygpath -w "$p") newpath="$newpath$sep$n" #echo -E "newpath=$newpath" sep=";" done export Path=$newpath fi But no luck in launching (cygstart case works): cd "$ldir" && { if ((usecmd)); then 'c:/windows/system32/cmd.exe' /c "$lpath" "${args[@]}" else cygstart "$lpath" "${args[@]}" fi } So what else does cygstart do that I might setup before a "cmd /c" to get the target to run? Or anyway to have cygstart run the command with its output in the current window? Thanks! Linda -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple