looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread Samir Gupta
Hello, I am having a problem with running cygwin emacs under windows 2000
pro at work, where I am concurrently running exceed (to connect to networked
machines):

when I initially run emacs it does not open up in a separate window
so, I mimicked my xterm setup at work and did
setenv DISPLAY xx:0.0
now, it opens up in a separate window like  I wanted, but I have 2
questions:

1) the icon (in the upper left corner of my emacs window) is the blue X
ie. the same icon I get when I open an xterm with exceed.  This is confusing
because I would like to distinguish between my local emacs windows and my
emacs windows that are connected to the network.  How can I change the icon
when running emacs via cygwin so they are different?

2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not connected
to a network?

Thanks

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RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread Samir Gupta
That does not work for some reason, here is what happens when I open up a
tcsh shell (without my .tcshrc):

[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ echo $DISPLAY
:0
[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ emacs
emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.
Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
connections from your machine.

[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ 




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I think Samir Gupta wrote:
 
 2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
 using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not connected
 to a network?

You can omit the address and the screen number -- i.e., set DISPLAY to
:0 and this will be fine. The local machine is then understood.


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RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sounds like a problem with Exceed to me then.

Larry

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From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:32:18 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


That does not work for some reason, here is what happens when I open up a
tcsh shell (without my .tcshrc):

[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ echo $DISPLAY
:0
[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ emacs
emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.
Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
connections from your machine.

[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ 




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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:07 PM
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Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


I think Samir Gupta wrote:
 
 2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
 using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not connected
 to a network?

You can omit the address and the screen number -- i.e., set DISPLAY to
:0 and this will be fine. The local machine is then understood.


-
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Distributed Systems ResearchPhone: (925) 294-2154
Sandia National LabsFAX:   (925) 294-2234
PO Box 969, MS 9012 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Livermore, CA 94550 http://herzberg.ca.sandia.gov

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RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread Samir Gupta
Why would exceed cause this problem?  I have the problem even when I don't
run exceed on this computer.  I am also almost certain that this did not
work when I tried it on a computer that did not have exceed on it at all.

Is there anything else that could be wrong?

Thanks



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Sounds like a problem with Exceed to me then.

Larry

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From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:32:18 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


That does not work for some reason, here is what happens when I open up a
tcsh shell (without my .tcshrc):

[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ echo $DISPLAY
:0
[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ emacs
emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.
Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
connections from your machine.

[sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ 




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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:07 PM
To: Samir Gupta
Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


I think Samir Gupta wrote:
 
 2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
 using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not connected
 to a network?

You can omit the address and the screen number -- i.e., set DISPLAY to
:0 and this will be fine. The local machine is then understood.


-
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Distributed Systems ResearchPhone: (925) 294-2154
Sandia National LabsFAX:   (925) 294-2234
PO Box 969, MS 9012 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Livermore, CA 94550 http://herzberg.ca.sandia.gov

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Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread Elfyn McBratney
 Why would exceed cause this problem?  I have the problem even when I don't
 run exceed on this computer.  I am also almost certain that this did not
 work when I tried it on a computer that did not have exceed on it at all.


Are you trying to run plain-old emacs from a cygwin prompt and it keeps
telling you about the X thing? If so just run `emacs -nw'. If not, then
Sorry! :-)


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk

 Is there anything else that could be wrong?

 Thanks



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 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 Sounds like a problem with Exceed to me then.

 Larry

 Original Message:
 -
 From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:32:18 -0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 That does not work for some reason, here is what happens when I open up a
 tcsh shell (without my .tcshrc):

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ echo $DISPLAY
 :0
 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ emacs
 emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.
 Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
 Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
 connections from your machine.

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$




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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:07 PM
 To: Samir Gupta
 Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 I think Samir Gupta wrote:
 
  2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
  using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not
connected
  to a network?

 You can omit the address and the screen number -- i.e., set DISPLAY to
 :0 and this will be fine. The local machine is then understood.


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 Distributed Systems ResearchPhone: (925) 294-2154
 Sandia National LabsFAX:   (925) 294-2234
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RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread Samir Gupta
Hello,

Yes, that is what I am trying to do.  However, I would like emacs to open up
in a separate window from the prompt window.  

to open up my tcsh I am running:
rxvt -e tcsh

then, from the tcsh prompt:

1) If I type emacs I get the error I pasted below (if the enviornment
variable DISPLAY is set).
2) If I type emacs and the environment variable DISPLAY is not set, then
emacs opens up in the current window.
3) If I type emacs -nw, then regardless of whether or not DISPLAY is set,
emacs opens up in the current window.

But I can't get emacs to open up in its own window!



-Original Message-
From: Elfyn McBratney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:06 PM
To: cygwin; Samir Gupta
Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 Why would exceed cause this problem?  I have the problem even when I don't
 run exceed on this computer.  I am also almost certain that this did not
 work when I tried it on a computer that did not have exceed on it at all.


Are you trying to run plain-old emacs from a cygwin prompt and it keeps
telling you about the X thing? If so just run `emacs -nw'. If not, then
Sorry! :-)


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk

 Is there anything else that could be wrong?

 Thanks



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 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 Sounds like a problem with Exceed to me then.

 Larry

 Original Message:
 -
 From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:32:18 -0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 That does not work for some reason, here is what happens when I open up a
 tcsh shell (without my .tcshrc):

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ echo $DISPLAY
 :0
 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ emacs
 emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.
 Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
 Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
 connections from your machine.

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$




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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:07 PM
 To: Samir Gupta
 Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 I think Samir Gupta wrote:
 
  2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
  using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not
connected
  to a network?

 You can omit the address and the screen number -- i.e., set DISPLAY to
 :0 and this will be fine. The local machine is then understood.


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 Distributed Systems ResearchPhone: (925) 294-2154
 Sandia National LabsFAX:   (925) 294-2234
 PO Box 969, MS 9012 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread Elfyn McBratney
 Yes, that is what I am trying to do.  However, I would like emacs to open
up
 in a separate window from the prompt window.

 to open up my tcsh I am running:
 rxvt -e tcsh

 then, from the tcsh prompt:

 1) If I type emacs I get the error I pasted below (if the enviornment
 variable DISPLAY is set).
 2) If I type emacs and the environment variable DISPLAY is not set, then
 emacs opens up in the current window.
 3) If I type emacs -nw, then regardless of whether or not DISPLAY is
set,
 emacs opens up in the current window.

 [...]


  Why would exceed cause this problem?  I have the problem even when I
don't
  run exceed on this computer.  I am also almost certain that this did not
  work when I tried it on a computer that did not have exceed on it at
all.
 

 Are you trying to run plain-old emacs from a cygwin prompt and it keeps
 telling you about the X thing? If so just run `emacs -nw'. If not, then
 Sorry! :-)
 [...]

O.K. I think you are thinking of linux where if you type it in in X it opens
up the X version and if you add a '' it opens backgrounded? If so, you
can't really do that from what I can think of. What you can do is something
similar to what cygwin does by placing a shortcut on your desktop running

C:\Cygwin\bin\emacs.exe -nw -any-other-options-you-may-want-to-add ;-)

And just clicking on it as and when you want to use emacs...


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk



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RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, you're confused.  You mingled the idea of using the X version with 
the idea of running a console version of emacs in a different Windows
window.  Try:

cygstart emacs 

I didn't try it with emacs because I don't have it.  Works with vim 
though. ;-)

See man cygstart if you have questions about it.

Larry

Original Message:
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From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:18:53 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


Hello,

Yes, that is what I am trying to do.  However, I would like emacs to open up
in a separate window from the prompt window.  

to open up my tcsh I am running:
rxvt -e tcsh

then, from the tcsh prompt:

1) If I type emacs I get the error I pasted below (if the enviornment
variable DISPLAY is set).
2) If I type emacs and the environment variable DISPLAY is not set, then
emacs opens up in the current window.
3) If I type emacs -nw, then regardless of whether or not DISPLAY is set,
emacs opens up in the current window.

But I can't get emacs to open up in its own window!



-Original Message-
From: Elfyn McBratney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:06 PM
To: cygwin; Samir Gupta
Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 Why would exceed cause this problem?  I have the problem even when I don't
 run exceed on this computer.  I am also almost certain that this did not
 work when I tried it on a computer that did not have exceed on it at all.


Are you trying to run plain-old emacs from a cygwin prompt and it keeps
telling you about the X thing? If so just run `emacs -nw'. If not, then
Sorry! :-)


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk

 Is there anything else that could be wrong?

 Thanks



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 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 Sounds like a problem with Exceed to me then.

 Larry

 Original Message:
 -
 From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:32:18 -0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 That does not work for some reason, here is what happens when I open up a
 tcsh shell (without my .tcshrc):

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ echo $DISPLAY
 :0
 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ emacs
 emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.
 Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
 Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
 connections from your machine.

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$




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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:07 PM
 To: Samir Gupta
 Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 I think Samir Gupta wrote:
 
  2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
  using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not
connected
  to a network?

 You can omit the address and the screen number -- i.e., set DISPLAY to
 :0 and this will be fine. The local machine is then understood.


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 Distributed Systems ResearchPhone: (925) 294-2154
 Sandia National LabsFAX:   (925) 294-2234
 PO Box 969, MS 9012 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone trying to use EMACS in cygwin

2003-02-11 Thread Samir Gupta
Yes, something must have happened to my cygwin emacs, because, earlier
today, I think it was interacting with my exceed program somehow.  It was
letting me run emacs in cygwin the same way I did it in exceed.  So, if I
typed, emacs any local file  from my cygwin tcsh shell, it would open
up my file in a separate window.  Somehow it was opening it up in an exceed
window.

I reinstalled cygwin emacs, and now it functions normally.

I wish I knew what happenned to make it work the other way.

The cygstart command works, but I don't like using emacs in the dos window.





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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:18 PM
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trying to use EMACS in cygwin


OK, you're confused.  You mingled the idea of using the X version with 
the idea of running a console version of emacs in a different Windows
window.  Try:

cygstart emacs 

I didn't try it with emacs because I don't have it.  Works with vim 
though. ;-)

See man cygstart if you have questions about it.

Larry

Original Message:
-
From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:18:53 -0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


Hello,

Yes, that is what I am trying to do.  However, I would like emacs to open up
in a separate window from the prompt window.  

to open up my tcsh I am running:
rxvt -e tcsh

then, from the tcsh prompt:

1) If I type emacs I get the error I pasted below (if the enviornment
variable DISPLAY is set).
2) If I type emacs and the environment variable DISPLAY is not set, then
emacs opens up in the current window.
3) If I type emacs -nw, then regardless of whether or not DISPLAY is set,
emacs opens up in the current window.

But I can't get emacs to open up in its own window!



-Original Message-
From: Elfyn McBratney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:06 PM
To: cygwin; Samir Gupta
Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 Why would exceed cause this problem?  I have the problem even when I don't
 run exceed on this computer.  I am also almost certain that this did not
 work when I tried it on a computer that did not have exceed on it at all.


Are you trying to run plain-old emacs from a cygwin prompt and it keeps
telling you about the X thing? If so just run `emacs -nw'. If not, then
Sorry! :-)


Regards,

Elfyn McBratney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.exposure.org.uk

 Is there anything else that could be wrong?

 Thanks



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 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 Sounds like a problem with Exceed to me then.

 Larry

 Original Message:
 -
 From: Samir Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:32:18 -0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 That does not work for some reason, here is what happens when I open up a
 tcsh shell (without my .tcshrc):

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ echo $DISPLAY
 :0
 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$ emacs
 emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.
 Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
 Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
 connections from your machine.

 [sgupta@sgupta /cygdrive/c]$




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:07 PM
 To: Samir Gupta
 Subject: Re: looking for what is hopefully a simple answer for someone
 trying to use EMACS in cygwin


 I think Samir Gupta wrote:
 
  2) why do I have to enter an IP address in the Display variable if I am
  using cygwin on my local machine?  What would I do if I were not
connected
  to a network?

 You can omit the address and the screen number -- i.e., set DISPLAY to
 :0 and this will be fine. The local machine is then understood.


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 Distributed Systems ResearchPhone: (925) 294-2154
 Sandia National LabsFAX:   (925) 294-2234
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 Livermore, CA 94550 http://herzberg.ca.sandia.gov

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