Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-20 Thread amp
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Tim May wrote: >It's also a waste of time to write FAQs, I've concluded. I suspected this >before, but now I know it for sure. Those who most need to read a FAQ are >usually the least likely to do so. Those who read widely don't _need_ a >FAQ. FAQs are thus mostly useful for

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread John Young
Tim May wrote: >Cryptome site (and sites that preceeded this exact >name). Wah, I didn't know that. I'd like to credit those. Indeed, giving credit is what keeps Cryptome going, for nearly all of it comes from contributions by others, especially Cypherpunks and its offshoots and graduates. I

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread Tim May
At 6:55 PM -0800 2/19/00, John Young wrote: >This list is the first place I heard of Echelon, and a lot of other >things, from crypto to TEMPEST and more. Maybe it's not at >the moment at its peak level on politico-technology, but nuggets >continue to appear, particularly those which provide a de

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread Tim May
At 6:55 PM -0800 2/19/00, John Young wrote: >This list is the first place I heard of Echelon, and a lot of other >things, from crypto to TEMPEST and more. Maybe it's not at >the moment at its peak level on politico-technology, but nuggets >continue to appear, particularly those which provide a de

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread John Young
This list is the first place I heard of Echelon, and a lot of other things, from crypto to TEMPEST and more. Maybe it's not at the moment at its peak level on politico-technology, but nuggets continue to appear, particularly those which provide a densepack of information dressed up with enligh

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread Tim May
At 5:58 PM -0800 2/19/00, John Young wrote: >Very well, your rebuttal would be an informative addition >to the file, if you don't object. > > >Wayne Madsen is quoted today in Canada's National Post that >the EU hearings are a joke. That all nations spy on each other >and only a fool thinks other

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread John Young
Very well, your rebuttal would be an informative addition to the file, if you don't object. To pick up on a couple of your points: There should be a sustained burst of activity from Europe on the Echelon affair as EuroParl deliberates on it, guided by the four 1999 Echelon reports prepared by

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread Tim May
At 12:26 PM -0800 2/19/00, John Young wrote: >A French intelligence report alleges that Microsoft was >set up with NSA funding and that NSA imposed MS-DOS >on IBM, and also alleges that NSA agents are now working >at Microsoft: > > http://cryptome.org/nsa-ms-spy.htm > >The full confidential rep

Re: MS Funded/Founded by NSA?

2000-02-19 Thread Matthew Gaylor
John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is that old news or new, or merely a French counterattack >on Echelon-like espionage? [Note from Matthew Gaylor: Nearly every security expert I know won't use Windows on their personal machines. Everyone is aware of the security issues that arise with