On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Sunder wrote:
> Erm, it is the same thing if you happen to be the worker/serf. You are
> owned and anything you have in your possession isn't yours. It doesn't
> matter much whether it's the Lord or the Party that owns it. What does
> matter is that you don't. :)
>
> The
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Jim Burnes wrote:
> Jim Choate wrote:
>
> > A century ago? You dipshit the Ottoman Empire fell apart in the late
> > 1800's while the first Communist theories formed in the late 1800's and
> > the first communist state formed in 1917.
>
> Actually the first formal Communis
Jim Choate wrote:
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> On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote:
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> > Er... what part of "feudalism is a form of socialism" you don't understand?
>
> None of it since they're not the same thing at all
>
> Socialism is the ownership and management of all property by the state
> with the el
Jim Choate wrote:
> A century ago? You dipshit the Ottoman Empire fell apart in the late
> 1800's while the first Communist theories formed in the late 1800's and
> the first communist state formed in 1917.
Actually the first formal Communist theories were formed in the late
1700's (about 1792
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> Er... what part of "feudalism is a form of socialism" you don't understand?
None of it since they're not the same thing at all
Socialism is the ownership and management of all property by the state
with the elimination of private property.
Feud
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From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Yeah, thriving economies that only a handful of elite got to benefit from
> while the rest of the population were pretty much on bread and water. You
> really should study the fall of the Ottoman Empire a tad more closely (or
> at least
Me bad...
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Jim Choate wrote:
> ONLY because the Allies who WON WWII set it up that way. Didn't manage to
> keep it long did you
That should be WWI, not WWII.
The future is downloadin
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Tim May wrote:
> The tragedy of communism in this century is that what had once been
> thriving economies in Europe--Hungary, Poland, and to a lesser extent,
> Romania, Bulgaria, etc.--became poor, command economy basket cases.
Yeah, thriving economies that only a handful o
On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, David Honig wrote:
> At 12:33 AM 3/4/00 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
> >ROTFL
>
> The other terms are (atomic) labels, jargon, which mean particular things
> to practitioners. Not really that funny.
No accounting for taste or sense of humor.
At 12:33 AM 3/4/00 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
>Economics - the study of how people choose among alternative uses of their
>(usualy scarce) resources.
>
>But using your definition then micro-economics is the same as
>micro-capitalism? Macro-economics is macro-capitalism?
>
>ROTFL
The ot
On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> EVERYONE uses his own definitions when he speaks / writes. A dictionary does
> not "define" words, it just indicates the most common ones.
No, normaly people use words within a reasonable range of commen
expectations. It's one of the reasons people n
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From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I'm using other definitions.
>
> What a fucking putz. Invent your own language and you expect others to go
> along with it? Fat chance.
EVERYONE uses his own definitions when he speaks / writes. A dictionary does
not "define" words, i
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From: David Honig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Actually Marcel this was a humorous insight --it truly
> gets at what mean when they gripe about
> capitalism. They are really griping about economics, ie, reality.
Interesting way of putting it. Yes, I agree with you. [I think I rea
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> At 2:44 PM -0500 on 3/2/00, Marcel Popescu wrote:
>
>
> > Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a
> > transaction by those not involved).
>
> Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning "economics".
Economics - the study o
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> I'm using other definitions.
What a fucking putz. Invent your own language and you expect others to go
along with it? Fat chance.
Ever hear of Esperanto?
The futu
At 02:15 AM 3/3/00 -0500, Marcel Popescu wrote:
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>> > Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a
>> > transaction by those not involved).
>>
>> Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning
>"economics".
>
>Well,
At 8:03 AM -0500 on 3/3/00, John Young wrote:
> Oops, nevermind, this thread is about bread. Ha! Hiccup.
You're excused?
:-).
Cheers,
RAH
Who *still* thinks about the same of the word "capitalism" that, say, the
Lakota may think about the word "Souix". Only, of course, the "capitalists"
won
Robert Hettinga wrote:
>> Well, it seems that we're arguing about word definitions, which is a most
>> stupid thing to do.
>
>Sorry if you feel that way. I was just going for a laugh, and not really
>arguing with you at all...
Charlie Trie said the same in Congress a few days ago, when explaini
At 2:15 AM -0500 on 3/3/00, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> Well, it seems that we're arguing about word definitions, which is a most
> stupid thing to do.
Sorry if you feel that way. I was just going for a laugh, and not really
arguing with you at all...
Cheers,
RAH
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From: R. A. Hettinga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a
> > transaction by those not involved).
>
> Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning
"economics".
Well, it seems that we're arguing about word definitions, which
At 2:44 PM -0500 on 3/2/00, Marcel Popescu wrote:
> Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a
> transaction by those not involved).
Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning "economics".
;-).
Cheers,
RAH
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From: Jim Choate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Socialism is the ownership and management of all property by the state
> with the elimination of private property.
>
> Feudalism is the situation where within a geographic area EVERYTHING is
> property and owned by a single INDIVIDUAL.
>
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