Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Jim Burnes wrote: Jim Choate wrote: A century ago? You dipshit the Ottoman Empire fell apart in the late 1800's while the first Communist theories formed in the late 1800's and the first communist state formed in 1917. Actually the first formal Communist

Re: Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-07 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Sunder wrote: Erm, it is the same thing if you happen to be the worker/serf. You are owned and anything you have in your possession isn't yours. It doesn't matter much whether it's the Lord or the Party that owns it. What does matter is that you don't. :) The flip

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-06 Thread Jim Burnes
Jim Choate wrote: A century ago? You dipshit the Ottoman Empire fell apart in the late 1800's while the first Communist theories formed in the late 1800's and the first communist state formed in 1917. Actually the first formal Communist theories were formed in the late 1700's (about 1792 if

Re: Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-06 Thread Sunder
Jim Choate wrote: On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote: Er... what part of "feudalism is a form of socialism" you don't understand? None of it since they're not the same thing at all Socialism is the ownership and management of all property by the state with the elimination

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-05 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, thriving economies that only a handful of elite got to benefit from while the rest of the population were pretty much on bread and water. You really should study the fall of the Ottoman Empire a tad more closely (or at least quit

The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-05 Thread Tim May
At 4:15 PM -0800 3/1/00, Marcel Popescu wrote: ... This is a common misconception, even in my country (Romania, Eastern Europe). I argued with someone claiming that "$1,000 in Romania is equivalent to $4,000 in the US". I told him that it's the other way around: you need at least $4,000 (and I

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-04 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm using other definitions. What a fucking putz. Invent your own language and you expect others to go along with it? Fat chance. EVERYONE uses his own definitions when he speaks / writes. A dictionary does not "define" words, it just

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-04 Thread David Honig
At 12:33 AM 3/4/00 -0500, Jim Choate wrote: Economics - the study of how people choose among alternative uses of their (usualy scarce) resources. But using your definition then micro-economics is the same as micro-capitalism? Macro-economics is macro-capitalism? ROTFL The other

Re: Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-04 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote: EVERYONE uses his own definitions when he speaks / writes. A dictionary does not "define" words, it just indicates the most common ones. No, normaly people use words within a reasonable range of commen expectations. It's one of the reasons people

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-03 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 2:15 AM -0500 on 3/3/00, Marcel Popescu wrote: Well, it seems that we're arguing about word definitions, which is a most stupid thing to do. Sorry if you feel that way. I was just going for a laugh, and not really arguing with you at all... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A.

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-03 Thread John Young
Robert Hettinga wrote: Well, it seems that we're arguing about word definitions, which is a most stupid thing to do. Sorry if you feel that way. I was just going for a laugh, and not really arguing with you at all... Charlie Trie said the same in Congress a few days ago, when explaining how

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-03 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 8:03 AM -0500 on 3/3/00, John Young wrote: interesting things about Charlie Trei Oops, nevermind, this thread is about bread. Ha! Hiccup. You're excused? :-). Cheers, RAH Who *still* thinks about the same of the word "capitalism" that, say, the Lakota may think about the word "Souix".

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-03 Thread David Honig
At 02:15 AM 3/3/00 -0500, Marcel Popescu wrote: X-Loop: openpgp.net From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a transaction by those not involved). Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning "economics". Well, it seems that

Re: Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote: I'm using other definitions. What a fucking putz. Invent your own language and you expect others to go along with it? Fat chance. Ever hear of Esperanto? The

Re: Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-03 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 2:44 PM -0500 on 3/2/00, Marcel Popescu wrote: Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a transaction by those not involved). Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning "economics". Economics - the study of how

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-03 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a transaction by those not involved). Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning "economics". Well, it seems that we're arguing about word definitions, which is a

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-02 Thread Marcel Popescu
X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Socialism is the ownership and management of all property by the state with the elimination of private property. Feudalism is the situation where within a geographic area EVERYTHING is property and owned by a single INDIVIDUAL. Why

Re: The price of bread in Romania

2000-03-02 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 2:44 PM -0500 on 3/2/00, Marcel Popescu wrote: Capitalism: free trade (no interference in a transaction by those not involved). Actually, to me, anyway, "Capitalism" is a Marxist word meaning "economics". ;-). Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]