Tony Bartoletti wrote:
The problem goes beyond simple impersonation in that the victims
subsequently find it difficult to convince large institutions that
they are who they say they are. My understanding is that the term
comes from victims' statements that they felt as if their
At 11:06 PM -0500 10/17/00, Neil Johnson wrote:
Yes, I can see it now.
"I'm sorry I have to tell you this Mr. Mrs. May, but the genetic
tests required by your insurance company have revealed that your
unborn child has a 65% chance of developing an expensive to treat
and possibly severely
At 10:20 PM -0500 10/17/00, Allen Ethridge wrote:
On Tuesday, October 17, 2000, at 08:19 PM, Tim May wrote:
As for insurance companies "discriminating," this is what I hope for.
Those of us who don't engage in certain practices--smoking, sky
diving, anal sex, whatever--should not be subsidizing
At 01:33 PM 10/17/00 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
We can't stop anybody who gets cypherpunks from archiving it. We
can't stop anybody from getting cypherpunks. QED, there *are*
archives. Some of them might as well be public. Occasionally
they are useful, or contain worthwhile URL's.
Not
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At 05:50 PM 10/17/00 -0700, Nathan Saper wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:07:00PM -0400, David Honig wrote:
Not yet. But I believe the UK takes samples of everyone
arrested (not necessarily guilty) of minor crimes, and some
US states and cities do or periodically propose doing this
or more.
"Arnold G. Reinhold" wrote:
At 11:21 AM -0700 10/17/2000, Ed Gerck wrote:
As Tony Bartoletti wrote, apologies for what seems a rant, but the "solid
mathematical foundations" underlying digital signatures, "Qualified
Certificates",
unmistakable IDs, biometrics and so forth create in me a
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,39301,00.html
The Mother of Gore's Invention
by Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[deletia uber alles]
Many portions -- discussions of universal service, wiring classrooms
to the Net, and antitrust actions -- are surprisingly
At 5:12 PM -0400 10/18/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
At 12:22 10/18/2000 -0700, jim bell wrote:
I ask this, what I believe would be an excellent idea for an article: Why
didn't the Internet develop even faster than it actually did? 9600 bps
modems existed in 1986, not all that far in performance
At 17:44 10/18/2000 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote:
Been there, done that, got the credit. I was one of the original developers
of Apple Kermit (in 6502 assembler) at Columbia University. Amongst other
Wow -- I'm impressed. I remember using that.
Actually, by 86, the Mac was out, as was the PC/AT and
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On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:10:27AM -0700, David Honig wrote:
At 05:50 PM 10/17/00 -0700, Nathan Saper wrote:
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 12:07:00PM -0400, David Honig wrote:
Not yet. But I believe the UK takes samples of everyone
arrested (not
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On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 11:53:36PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
At 11:06 PM -0500 10/17/00, Neil Johnson wrote:
Yes, I can see it now.
"I'm sorry I have to tell you this Mr. Mrs. May, but the genetic
tests required by your insurance company have
At 6:01 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
And what is wrong with this? Nothing that I can see.
Alice the Insurer is free to set her rates as she wishes, and even to
require tests. Bob the Prospective Insured is free to shop elsewhere.
Where elsewhere? What alternative does Bob
At 5:48 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:10:27AM -0700, David Honig wrote:
Discrimination in the good sense, like discriminating dangerous vs.
safe. What do you think insurance companies *should* do, if not
make various
discriminations about risk? Are
At 6:54 PM -0700 10/18/00, Yardena Arar + Christian Goetze wrote:
I almost never participate in this group, but here it's hard to resist.
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Tim May wrote:
At 6:01 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
And what is wrong with this? Nothing that I can see.
Two Things:
1. It sounds like to me that there is no room for human compassion in
crypto-anarchy.
(Seems like we will all end up sitting in our "compounds" armed to the
teeth and if anybody comes along we either blow'em to bits or pay them
anonymous digital cash
to go away).
2. I think that
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Cc: "Nathan Saper" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Cypherpunks"
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:00 PM
Subject: CDR: Re: Re: why should it be trusted?
Gambling is
At 9:11 PM -0500 10/18/00, Neil Johnson wrote:
Two Things:
1. It sounds like to me that there is no room for human compassion in
crypto-anarchy.
(Seems like we will all end up sitting in our "compounds" armed to the
teeth and if anybody comes along we either blow'em to bits or pay them
(Seems like we will all end up sitting in our "compounds" armed to the
teeth and if anybody comes along we either blow'em to bits or pay them
anonymous digital cash
to go away).
I should of added:
"because they are afraid that person(s) is coming to collect their
'Assasination Betting
At 9:20 PM -0500 10/18/00, Neil Johnson wrote:
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This is the way markets in general have always worked. Economists
talk about "preference revealing" and "selective disclosure of
information."
But the Bob has no control of his
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Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:56 PM
Subject: CDR: Re: Re: Re: why should it be
Another socialist simp-wimp heard from.
Lots of socialists to be dealt with and disposed of. I wonder who
will stoke the furnaces?
Not very many if enough of us "simp-wimps" gather enough e-cash to create
our own
"Imprisonment Betting Pool".
I think languishing in jail with life-mate
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On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:01:20PM -0700, Marshall Clow wrote:
At 9:27 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 06:57:24PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
At 5:48 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
In any case, whether Alice
At 10:07 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 10:01:20PM -0700, Marshall Clow wrote:
At 9:27 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
On Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 06:57:24PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
At 5:48 PM -0700 10/18/00, Nathan Saper wrote:
In any case, whether
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