The US mis-election - an oportunity for e-voting..

2000-12-10 Thread Robert Guerra
Hey if there's a good side of the US mis-election this year.. it is that finally there will be an attempt to improve and modernize the process. One of the technologies to improve the voting process is secure e-voting..Can anyone enlighten me as to who is working in the field.. Looks like

Re: The US mis-election - an oportunity for e-voting..

2000-12-10 Thread Tim May
system, had few if any recounts, and managed to count all thier manual ballots in less than 72 hours. It wasn't a close election, was it? Didn't think so. In the U.S., when the election isn't close, the ballots are counted, and recounted, by midnight of the day of the election...maybe by mid

Today on Abuzz: Election 2000

2000-11-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what you know with other Abuzz members. Right now on Abuzz, people are talking about the election controversy. See what they are saying and share your views at: http://nytimes.abuzz.com/abuzz/whats_hot/e/8.71388 For more News and Politics discussions go to: National News: http

RE: The cause of uncertainty in the election outcome.

2000-11-20 Thread Ernest Hua
Title: RE: The cause of uncertainty in the election outcome. Well, that's not entirely true either. The judicial system is generally pragmatic, in the sense that they do not address issues not brought before the court. For instance, if someone commits a crime, a prosecutor must bring up

RE: The cause of uncertainty in the election outcome.

2000-11-20 Thread mmotyka
However the recounts work out I think it's pretty clear that in the statitical sense we have a tie. The uncertainties are far larger than the measured difference. Even the national totals are within about 0.1%. This is probably 1 or 2 orders of magnitude less than the percentage of disqualified

The cause of uncertainty in the election outcome.

2000-11-19 Thread James A. Donald
Because the vote is so close, the outcome depends entirely on a multitude of judgment calls about which votes count, and which are counted, and how they shall be counted. The normal procedure in England and the democracies descended from England, or imposed by English troops, is that the

Al Gore is only 630 votes away from winning the election

2000-11-08 Thread Declan McCullagh
. Nader occasionally claims that he lures voters who would not otherwise go to the polls. But if even one percent of Nader's voters had turned to Gore -- a certainty -- the presidential election would have turned out differently. With only a 630 vote difference out of some 6 million votes cast

Re: Al Gore is only 630 votes away from winning the election

2000-11-08 Thread George
Declan the Reporter wrote: #Al Gore is only 630 votes away from winning the election Now they'll have to wait until all the absentee ballots are counted. They had to be postedmarked by midnight. Approximately 10 days away. Surreal.

Re: Al Gore is only 630 votes away from winning the election

2000-11-08 Thread Tim May
At 3:49 AM -0500 11/8/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: With 99.9 percent of the votes in Florida counted, Al Gore is only 630 votes away from winning the presidency. The Florida Department of State reports -- in numbers updated in the last five minutes -- that George W. Bush won 2,898,865 votes

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-08 Thread Bill Stewart
ces a very, very, very close election, and that extra blast of welfare roll voters may have been enough to defeat him. Mighty niggardly of the Democrats, I'd say. Spooky, in fact. On the other hand, doing a baitswitch on closing times is also going to affect the voting response, especially for

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Tim May
involved in the process. A stunning theft of the election. If these "late Democrats" turn out to be the margin of victory, this will energize the anger of the Republicans. I just had a Cypherpunks numbskull (who was also actively on the wrong side in the Elian debate) send me pr

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread George
-Lieberman campaign. # #Judge Evelyn M. Baker ruled in favor of the petitioners because #of an especially heavy turnout. The Board of Election #Commissioners "failed to live up to its duty to the voters of #the city," Baker said. # #Under the emergency order issued

RE: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Tim May
Ernest Hua has asked me to call him a numbskull directly. Apparently he did not like my "someone" reference. So I am obliging. And he says he will not send me anything he doesn't mind having shared with the rest of the list. And in a later message he defended the St. Louis legal action by

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Me
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For some reason, certain polling areas got jammed up, as in long lines. The court agreed to keep the polls open longer so the people could vote. It didn't matter who the people might vote for, despite the Democrats asking for the extended

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Bill Stewart
At 04:18 PM 11/7/00 -0800, Tim May wrote: I thought I was jaded, but this is too much even for me to believe. A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, Democrat-leaning voters vote. The rural and suburban

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Tim May
At 8:35 PM -0500 11/7/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimMay wrote: #I thought I was jaded, but this is too much even for me to believe. # #A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later, until 10 #pm local time. The effect will be to let more inner city, #

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread George
commerce wrote home.com # The obvious complaint is that only select polling areas were #given extended hours, when it would have been just as easy to #extend voting hours for the entire region If all polling places had their hours extended, does TimMay withdraw his objections? And

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Tim May
At 8:52 PM -0500 11/7/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimMay was entirely silent on why he objects to this time extension. You lying sack of shit. I've made my objections very, very clear. I need to find out who you are and where you live. --Tim May --

Re: election

2000-11-07 Thread Anonymous
The women in Michigan did it, the women in Penn. did it, the women in Fla. did it. Wake up punks, it's the wimmens. They rule. MacN They need raping.

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread George
lid reason for the extension: http://www.foxnews.com/election_night/states/mo/hours.sml #Mahina Nightsage, 41, said she attempted to vote at 10 a.m. but #was told by an election judge that she was not registered for #that polling place. Nightsage said she arrived at the board's #downt

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread George
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimMay was entirely silent on why he objects to this time extension. TimMay Moroned: #You lying sack of shit. I've made my objections very, very clear. Yeah, you said urbanites are mutants. Whatever that means in your mind. TimMay Moroned: #I need to find out

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Tim May
At 9:14 PM -0500 11/7/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: commerce wrote home.com # The obvious complaint is that only select polling areas were #given extended hours, when it would have been just as easy to #extend voting hours for the entire region If all polling places had their hours

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 4:18 PM -0800 on 11/7/00, Tim May wrote: A judge in St. Louis has ordered the polls kept open later Circuit cort judges just threw it out... Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Tim May
At 9:34 PM -0500 11/7/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, let's see if there's a perfectly valid reason for the extension: http://www.foxnews.com/election_night/states/mo/hours.sml #Mahina Nightsage, 41, said she attempted to vote at 10 a.m. but #was told by an election judge that she

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread George
TimMay Moroned: #And what is wrong with simply closing the lines at the closing time. #Put a cop or other official at the end of the line and say: "You #arrived at 8:01. Polls are closed. Everyone ahead of you will be #allowed in to vote, but you are too late." Why, that's

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread George
TimMay Moroned: #Ah, yes, so we extend the hours in a liberal welfare mecca because #Latisha Shabombaweka wasn't properly registered at 10 IN THE MORNING. You are clearly a racist. You need cooking in a large pot. ;-)

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread Tim May
Late news: Just saw Sen. Kit Bond of Missouri calling for an investigation into "criminal voting fraud" by the Democrat political machine in St. Louis and the lower court judge (if he was appointed by Democrats, the jig's up). Ashcroft faces a very, very, very close election, and

Re: Courts interfering with election

2000-11-07 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:46 PM -0800 on 11/7/00, Tim May wrote: (if he was appointed by Democrats, the jig's up) He was Gebhart's former chief of staff... :-). Cheers, RAH LHS'77 -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44