Re: new list ?

2016-09-04 Thread juan
On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 08:47:01 +0300 Georgi Guninski wrote: > new list(s) was already suggested these days. > > please go and make a few. there are even free lists providers. Actually, the people who should make a new list are the people who don't agree

Re: new list ?

2016-09-04 Thread Georgi Guninski
new list(s) was already suggested these days. please go and make a few. there are even free lists providers. people who want to subscribe, will subscribe. isn't this obvious? i suppose you can name them whatever you want. On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 03:12:01PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Folks

Fw: Political Cypherpunks Trumps Apolitical Cryptography

2016-09-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Forwarding the following for our collective prayer: - Forwarded message - Could not, agree, more ! Identify yourselves, all defeatists, trolls, counter intelligence "professionals", cold water bots, and horsey nay sayers all polluting relevant, indeed dire discussion with distracts and

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

2016-09-04 Thread Riad S. Wahby
Bardi Harborow wrote: > The lack of SPF, DKIM and DMARC records, as well as TLS, on the new > list is still wreaking havoc with my spam filter. Any chance of a fix? > I'd be happy to provide assistance. I'm guessing the big change since we moved the list is TLS. SPF is

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

2016-09-04 Thread Александр
2016-09-05 0:21 GMT+03:00 Zenaan Harkness : > CCing Juan and Alex now - what do you guys think? I already told you a year ago, brother, that i am FOR this idea. In my opinion, it *must* be done, because the tension from the crypto-freaks and golden caged morrons is all the

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 08:28 PM, Bardi Harborow wrote: > The lack of SPF, DKIM and DMARC records, as well as TLS, on the new > list is still wreaking havoc with my spam filter. Any chance of a fix? > I'd be happy to provide assistance. > Yours sincerely, > > Bardi Harborow > Software Engineer > Mobile:

Re: Troll Tools

2016-09-04 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/2016 09:46 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Further to Steve Kinney's proposed DISCLAIMER wording, which I ACK > +1, perhaps a link to the Troll Tools email in the archive should > be added - a quick way for those who want to get up to speed

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

2016-09-04 Thread Bardi Harborow
The lack of SPF, DKIM and DMARC records, as well as TLS, on the new list is still wreaking havoc with my spam filter. Any chance of a fix? I'd be happy to provide assistance. Yours sincerely, Bardi Harborow Software Engineer Mobile: +61481816153 Web: bardiharborow.com I acknowledge the

Re: foundations for sanity

2016-09-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 08:09:07PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/04/2016 07:43 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> - respect for the freedom, inherent dignity, rights and sovereignty of > >> every human > >> Although we may 'punish' or otherwise un-sanction our fellow society > >> dwellers who enage

Re: foundations for sanity

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 07:43 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> - respect for the freedom, inherent dignity, rights and sovereignty of >> every human >> Although we may 'punish' or otherwise un-sanction our fellow society >> dwellers who enage in activities in ways which fail to demonstrate >> reasonable

Re: foundations for sanity

2016-09-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
> - respect for the freedom, inherent dignity, rights and sovereignty of > every human > Although we may 'punish' or otherwise un-sanction our fellow society > dwellers who enage in activities in ways which fail to demonstrate > reasonable consideration for the safety of others, we shall limit

Re: Troll Tools

2016-09-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Further to Steve Kinney's proposed DISCLAIMER wording, which I ACK +1, perhaps a link to the Troll Tools email in the archive should be added - a quick way for those who want to get up to speed with troll being or troll spotting? On Sun, Sep 04, 2016 at 07:49:04PM -, Noven wrote: > 1.

Re: Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

2016-09-04 Thread Steve Kinney
On 09/04/2016 08:28 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/04/2016 04:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > >> I seem to be missing the real fun. Lemme see the sabotage and >> COINTELPRO content. > COINTELPRO was a REAL Barrel o' laughs... Unless ofc you were Fred > Hampton, or a number of other folks the US

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 05:26 PM, Mark Steward wrote: > On 4 Sep 2016 01:53, "Mirimir" > wrote: >> >> On 09/03/2016 05:25 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > ... >> > What kind of conversations are worthy of this list? >> >> Maybe this is just too obvious, but

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread juan
On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 01:12:10 +0100 Mark Steward wrote: > On 4 Sep 2016 22:13, "juan" wrote: > > > ... > > > > "Form your own group, your own mailing list, with a catchy > > > > name, something like "The Privacy Education Foundation," or > > > >

Re: Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

2016-09-04 Thread juan
On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 17:20:38 -0700 Greg Newby wrote: > In forums like Cypherpunks, we enjoy some of the Simple Sabotage > techniques daily. I especially appreciate the demands to provide > full evidence and citations to any claims. Oh OK. So go ahead and provide

Re: Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 04:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > I seem to be missing the real fun. Lemme see the sabotage and > COINTELPRO content. COINTELPRO was the NYPD "Bureau of Special Services" aka Red Squad getting my name off the blotter after a guerrilla theater protest (Ted K shortly after

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-04 Thread Mark Steward
On 4 Sep 2016 01:53, "Mirimir" wrote: > > On 09/03/2016 05:25 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: ... > > What kind of conversations are worthy of this list? > > Maybe this is just too obvious, but consider what "cypherpunk" means. > The term was coined in the "punk rock" era. So by

Troll Tools

2016-09-04 Thread Noven
1. COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum 2. Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation 3. Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist 4. How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent) 5. Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Mark Steward
On 4 Sep 2016 22:13, "juan" wrote: > ... > > > "Form your own group, your own mailing list, with a catchy > > > name, something like "The Privacy Education Foundation," or > > > "The American Civil Liberties Union" (whoops, taken), or > > > "The Society for the

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 02:19 PM, juan wrote some telling information about 'where he's been'; a 'place' some of us may not have 'been to'.. > Families and businesses are dictatorial beacause they operate > in a dictatorial environment - child raising tends to be pretty > dictatorial per se.

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-04 Thread John Newman
> On Sep 3, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 09/03/2016 06:51 AM, John Newman wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 12:03:56AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >>> I wouldn't say monastic. Just private. Read old Bill Burroughs' stuff >>> about the Johnson Family. >> >> It's been

Re: The NSA’s stash of digital holes is a threat to everyone online

2016-09-04 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Sep 4, 2016 7:35 PM, "J.M. Porup" wrote: > > The CSE's also: > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/security-flaws-cyberweapons-1.3742751 > > by me, reporting for the CBC. Cool, thank you! Very interesting! :D

Re: Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 10:37 AM, oshwm wrote: > Should the list really be forwarding new people to pastebin considering > it sits behind Cloudflare? Pastebin is using Cloudflare? Sigh... add another to the shit list. Rr > > Or maybe the list really isn't what it used to be? > > oshwm. > > On

Re: [Cryptography] "Flip Feng Shui: Hammering a Needle in the Software Stack"

2016-09-04 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 10:56:10AM -0400, Jerry Leichter wrote: > > Why bother with patching public keys, making them amenable to > > factorization, if you can patch executable code instead? > > > > If you can target executable code (and I see why not, it's all the > > same to KSM), it is very

Re: 4096 bit SSL keys

2016-09-04 Thread John Newman
> On Sep 3, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > > John wrote: >> The reason I asked: updating a few certs at office recently I nuked >> an older F5 LTM device by installing a 4096 bit key/cert pair - the >> load on the appliance (Linux based) shot up from

Re: The Unsettling Relationship Between Russia and Wikileaks

2016-09-04 Thread jim bell
From: grarpamp http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.htm http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3769958/Does-Wikileaks-help-Russia-Information-leaks-Julian-Assange-benefit-Kremlin.html >Now, Mr. Assange and WikiLeaks are back in

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/3/16 11:32 PM, juan wrote: > > > Playing with the 92-98 archive... > > > From: tc...@got.net (Timothy C. May) > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:48:20 PDT > To: cypherpu...@toad.com > Subject: Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful. > > > "Similarly, there's the Libertarian Party, with similar

Re: Continual Violation of List Charter

2016-09-04 Thread juan
Playing with the 92-98 archive... From: tc...@got.net (Timothy C. May) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:48:20 PDT To: cypherpu...@toad.com Subject: Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful. "Similarly, there's the Libertarian Party, with similar themes to our own..."

Re: Fwd: Re: [Cryptography] "Flip Feng Shui: Hammering a Needle in the Software Stack"

2016-09-04 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 07:52:26PM -0400, John wrote: > I need to upgrade to an actual 1U instead of my current VPS solution, heh ;) > > Then again... I wonder who I'm sharing a hypervisor with... > > The software is buggy, the RAM is buggy, the CPU is buggy, the operator is buggy. AND IT

Re: Playing with overlay networks

2016-09-04 Thread Georgi Guninski
I think tor should not be used for anything of importance. What if tor allows code execution by design and it is heavily obfuscated? On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 07:56:33PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > So let's say that a bunch of us have Tor onion servers. They're linked > to each other via OnionCat with