Re: Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread ben0wNed
4 real saw that name on hacker m0dUle - Original Message On Oct 7, 2016, 3:01 PM, John Newman wrote: R u the famous "rooty tooty fresh and fruity" ?? John On Oct 7, 2016, at 5:46 PM, rooty < arpsp...@protonmail.com> wrote: r u the famous mEtaSploit hacker script righter

Re: Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread John Newman
R u the famous "rooty tooty fresh and fruity" ?? John > On Oct 7, 2016, at 5:46 PM, rooty wrote: > > r u the famous mEtaSploit hacker script righter - ge0rgi > > > > Original Message > On Oct 7, 2016, 11:15 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > On Fri,

Re: Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread John Newman
ou've stated the case pretty well :) I guess I could restate my original case a little bit: it's best to ignore the implications of the sim theory, because there really are NO implications, assuming a true high fidelity sim. And we haven't observed anything to argue for flaws in the sim.. (oh C

Re: Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread xorcist
> > I figure it's best to ignore the implications of the simulation > hypothesis. There's nothing to be done about it. If I'm understanding you correctly, I find I quite agree, but for perhaps different reasons, because I don't find the implications to be all that difficult. Whether reality is

Re: Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread Mirimir
On 10/07/2016 12:35 PM, John Newman wrote: > >> On Oct 7, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 12:49:35PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: >>> Many believe that we live in a computer simulation. But it takes a >>> billionaire and his money to ask

Re: Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread John Newman
> On Oct 7, 2016, at 2:15 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 12:49:35PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: >> Many believe that we live in a computer simulation. But it takes a >> billionaire and his money to ask scientists to help break us out of >> the

Re: Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 12:49:35PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > Many believe that we live in a computer simulation. But it takes a > billionaire and his money to ask scientists to help break us out of > the simulation. ... lol, so billionaires are asking to root the virtual machine, get root on the

Sim Theory

2016-10-07 Thread grarpamp
https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/10/06/1352205/tech-billionaires-are-asking-scientists-for-help-to-break-humans-out-of-computer-simulation http://www.businessinsider.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-break-humans-out-of-a-computer-simulation-2016-10

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread Mirimir
On 09/22/2016 06:23 AM, John Newman wrote: > >> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: >> 'Quantum Thief' opens with prisoner's dilemma selection. Make numerous >> digital copies, select for copies that cooperate, repeat. >> >> "As always, before the warmind and I shoot

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-22 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
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Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread John Newman
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:40:06AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: > > Maybe you can get it through a library. > > Interlibrary loan, works wonders. Openlibrary took me to worldcat which did track the book down to a library thats

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-22 Thread John Newman
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:14:53AM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > Apparatus? Please. People have access to a knife, digital camera, > computer, and internet? Right? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract_(software) > https://opensource.com/life/15/9/open-source-extract-text-images > (Anons should

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread John Newman
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: > 'Quantum Thief' opens with prisoner's dilemma selection. Make numerous > digital copies, select for copies that cooperate, repeat. > > "As always, before the warmind and I shoot each other, I try to make > smalltalk." I just

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-22 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 03:15:40PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > None of this can or should persuade anyone but me that something > damned strange is going on with this "reality" thing. But I was and > remain so persuaded. Now the question is, what does it mean and what > can I do with/to/about

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:34 AM, Mirimir wrote: > Maybe you can get it through a library. Interlibrary loan, works wonders.

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread Mirimir
On 09/21/2016 04:15 AM, John Newman wrote: > >> On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Mirimir wrote: >> >>> On 09/20/2016 09:22 PM, Tom wrote: >>> btw, I'd suggest reading Phil Plaits 'Death from the Skies!'. In this >>> book he examines a couple of scenarios how the universe might

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-21 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:26 PM, John Newman wrote: > I don't have the apparatus to scan it - and I'm not sure a used > copy in "very good" condition would make a decent digital > copy :P Apparatus? Please. People have access to a knife, digital camera, computer, and internet?

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-21 Thread Mirimir
On 09/21/2016 12:26 PM, John Newman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 01:07:10PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:15 AM, John Newman wrote: >> For this small price of love, you could grant it it's freedom, >> for everyone, forever... >> >>

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/2016 10:36 AM, John Newman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 02:04:25PM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:33:24PM -0400, John wrote: >> For me a plausible counter example appears a late Bulgarian >> phenomenon

Re: In solidarity with Library Genesis and Sci-Hub [was: Sim Theory]

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 01:07:10PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:15 AM, John Newman wrote: > For this small price of love, you could grant it it's freedom, > for everyone, forever... > > http://custodians.online/ I don't have the apparatus to scan it - and

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 02:04:25PM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:33:24PM -0400, John wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > > > > > On September 18, 2016 8:36:52 AM EDT, Georgi Guninski > > wrote: > > >The

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 03:33:24PM -0400, John wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On September 18, 2016 8:36:52 AM EDT, Georgi Guninski > wrote: > >The main problem is this scales upwards till infinity via arguments of > >the form "who

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-21 Thread John Newman
> On Sep 20, 2016, at 11:39 PM, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 09/20/2016 09:22 PM, Tom wrote: >> btw, I'd suggest reading Phil Plaits 'Death from the Skies!'. In this >> book he examines a couple of scenarios how the universe might end (among >> a couple other ways how we could

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-20 Thread Mirimir
On 09/20/2016 09:22 PM, Tom wrote: > btw, I'd suggest reading Phil Plaits 'Death from the Skies!'. In this > book he examines a couple of scenarios how the universe might end (among > a couple other ways how we could die). Very fun read. There's The Killing Star by Charles R. Pellegrino and

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-20 Thread Mirimir
On 09/17/2016 08:09 PM, grarpamp wrote: > So many people have proposed we're simulated... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis > > Now why would such an extremely advanced civilization / collective > want to simulate us? Is this an unanswered question? Maybe they're so advanced

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-20 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 3:48 PM, wrote: > I find it difficult to believe in the heat death of the universe. The Big > Crunch makes sense to me. The universe expands for a time, and collapses. > Like breathing. > But continual expansion with the universe turning into some

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-20 Thread John
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On September 18, 2016 8:36:52 AM EDT, Georgi Guninski wrote: >The main problem is this scales upwards till infinity via arguments of >the form "who simulates the simulator?" and "who made what was before >the big bang?".

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-18 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:09:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > So many people have proposed we're simulated... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis > > Now why would such an extremely advanced civilization / collective > want to simulate us? Is this an unanswered question? > I

Sim Theory

2016-09-18 Thread cpunc
appendeges > appendages intelegent > intelligent apendage > appendage I guess spelling is subjective. -- cpunc

Sim Theory

2016-09-18 Thread Magilla
> xorcist: > intelligent life is the part of the universe that endeavors to understand itself. > We're the Universe's subconscious. You are a part of a super organism that is stretching through time in the form of every generation of everything that has ever lived; a being that has an infinite

Re: Sim Theory

2016-09-17 Thread xorcist
Too cerebral. It's interesting to me that the simulation hypothesis has so much in common with Buddhist philosophy. In fact, Buddhism already answers this sort of thing. Alan Watts, as a Zen Buddhist, presented the view that life is essentially a game played out at the cosmic level. All life is

Sim Theory

2016-09-17 Thread grarpamp
So many people have proposed we're simulated... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis Now why would such an extremely advanced civilization / collective want to simulate us? Is this an unanswered question? Certainly they have long since - solved biology, live forever, down/up load