Re: Switching gears

2016-09-26 Thread Razer
On 09/26/2016 01:29 PM, Sean Lynch wrote: > "We don't have to allow the State to contract out to private companies for > red light cameras and ALPRs and then let them sell the data to whomever they > want." They don't give a fuck what you want. Sorry to be so blunt about it but that's the

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-26 Thread John Newman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 12:40:22PM -0700, Sean Lynch wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:01 AM, wrote: > > > I'd like to bounce an idea around. At the outset, I'm going to say that I > > don't really like the idea. Like getting a root canal, I'd rather not have > > a some

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 17:01:51 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > I ventured the idea that the only way to combat it, is for citizens > to put web cams in their windows, in their cars, have body cams.. > whatever.. and have a distributed system where we can live stream > that stuff up. Open

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread Mirimir
With ubiquitous smartphones, we're getting there. Say what you will about Facebook, but they seem to have real commitment to sharing. So far, they've allowed some rather contentious and inflammatory stuff.

Re: Little Brother, Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 9/21/16 10:59 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> That's called "Little Brother"; we (for various forms of "we") have talked >> about it a lot. > Heh. Kinda funny. I called it "Little Sister" when I mentioned it to my > buddy. I like that. Perhaps the well-designed incarnation should be "Little

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread xorcist
> I disagree. > Therefore, the one and only effective way to get back freedom is to > shutdown the tyranny. Maybe weapons are required, like in the US > independence war, maybe a massive amount of people is required, like we > east germans did in 1989. > > Anything else are illusions. Valid

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread Stephen D. Williams
I can identify with that view somewhat. What used to be the case was that people would heavily scrutinize, gossip, report, etc. what others were doing. That was a tyranny of sorts too. By having more photos, video, and social sharing of all kinds, a much wider range of life was exposed as

Re: Little Brother, Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread xorcist
> That's called "Little Brother"; we (for various forms of "we") have talked > about it a lot. Heh. Kinda funny. I called it "Little Sister" when I mentioned it to my buddy. Yeah, those are good points you make. A voting system that could downvote/purge irrelevant/private clips would be good. It

Little Brother, Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread Stephen D. Williams
That's called "Little Brother"; we (for various forms of "we") have talked about it a lot. The difference now is that it is doable in a wide range of circumstances due to bandwidth, storage, compression, cameras, and AI filtering, plus possible IoT, etc. integration. For a completely neutral

Re: Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread grarpamp
Shouldn't open stream everything, as that violates privacy we seek and advocate. More interesting is to capture and motion detect it all. Camera operators moderate for innocent civilian privacy and publish footage of entities and individuals violating the privacy of others. And of course all

Switching gears

2016-09-21 Thread xorcist
I'd like to bounce an idea around. At the outset, I'm going to say that I don't really like the idea. Like getting a root canal, I'd rather not have a some guy drilling around in my jaw, but what can you do? Some years back, maybe 8 years ago now, prior to the Snowden revelations, a Kiwi buddy