Re: [j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

2016-09-06 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Very contraditory criticize the lack of transparency in institutions like the Tor Project and do the same thing here. A little group discussing the future of a whole list, judging persons? Not honest. Off-list means exclude the oppinions of the whole group. -- "I disapprove of what you say,

Re: [j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

2016-09-06 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
acy theories, self indulgent tripe, and all the rest for your >> gossiping indulgence.. >> >> Zenaan >> >> >> >> - Forwarded message from John Young <j...@pipeline.com> - >> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 09:29:24 -0400 >> From: John Yo

Re: [j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

2016-09-06 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
; > > > - Forwarded message from John Young <j...@pipeline.com> - > Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 09:29:24 -0400 > From: John Young <j...@pipeline.com> > To: Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> > Subject: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: > Na

[j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

2016-09-06 Thread Zenaan Harkness
com> - Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 09:29:24 -0400 From: John Young <j...@pipeline.com> To: Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> Subject: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism This discussion would be more effective on the list, not off-list, silvousplait

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-04 Thread Razer
On 09/04/2016 05:26 PM, Mark Steward wrote: > On 4 Sep 2016 01:53, "Mirimir" > wrote: >> >> On 09/03/2016 05:25 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > ... >> > What kind of conversations are worthy of this list? >> >> Maybe this is just too obvious, but

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-04 Thread Mark Steward
On 4 Sep 2016 01:53, "Mirimir" wrote: > > On 09/03/2016 05:25 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: ... > > What kind of conversations are worthy of this list? > > Maybe this is just too obvious, but consider what "cypherpunk" means. > The term was coined in the "punk rock" era. So by

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-04 Thread John Newman
> On Sep 3, 2016, at 8:59 PM, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 09/03/2016 06:51 AM, John Newman wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 12:03:56AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >>> I wouldn't say monastic. Just private. Read old Bill Burroughs' stuff >>> about the Johnson Family. >> >> It's been

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-03 Thread Mirimir
On 09/03/2016 06:51 AM, John Newman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 12:03:56AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >> I wouldn't say monastic. Just private. Read old Bill Burroughs' stuff >> about the Johnson Family. > > It's been years since I read Naked Lunch or any of the other cut-up > novels (although I

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-03 Thread Mirimir
On 09/03/2016 05:25 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 04:47:28AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >> On 09/03/2016 04:03 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Is it possibly less than 'constructive' to dishearten individuals before > they've even begun? So maybe do something,

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-03 Thread John Newman
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 12:03:56AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > I wouldn't say monastic. Just private. Read old Bill Burroughs' stuff > about the Johnson Family. It's been years since I read Naked Lunch or any of the other cut-up novels (although I did re-read Junkie and Queer recently)... Still, I

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-03 Thread John
On September 3, 2016 12:14:53 AM EDT, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>AND I vehemently oppose the many and varied evils I witness going on >all >around the world and conducted in the name "Australia" (and USA, >France, >Germany, etc). > You don't seem to have any problem with all

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-03 Thread Mirimir
On 09/03/2016 12:22 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 12:03:56AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >> On 09/02/2016 11:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 10:33:58PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: On 09/02/2016 09:26 PM, Razer wrote: > On 09/02/2016 07:01 PM, Zenaan

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-03 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 12:03:56AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 09/02/2016 11:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 10:33:58PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 09/02/2016 09:26 PM, Razer wrote: > >>> On 09/02/2016 07:01 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at

Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism

2016-09-03 Thread Mirimir
On 09/02/2016 11:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 10:33:58PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: >> On 09/02/2016 09:26 PM, Razer wrote: >>> On 09/02/2016 07:01 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 06:06:24PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/02/2016 05:51 PM, Zenaan