Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread juan
On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 06:05:50 -0400 John Newman wrote: > I feel a +100 from Alex coming on That's great! That means I get 100 rubles transferretd to my swiss account! > > random links: > > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia > > http://www.pinknews.co.

[MONEY] Meanderings on the looming global currency shifts

2016-10-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Dollar Disaster Looming: China and Russia’s Currencies Break Away. http://uncensored.co.nz/2016/09/10/dollar-disaster-looming-china-and-russias-currencies-break-away/

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
>> Focusing on discrimination in russia right now is WAR >> PROPAGANDA. >> > > > THAT'S the argument I've been making. Ok. I get where you're coming from, and this is an important point of INFORMATION WARFARE / PROPAGANDA. In this aspect, I'll agree with you guys and admit that as dista

Re: [OT] Where are the Chinese trolls?

2016-10-09 Thread rooty
FOR Georgi EYES ONLY - DO NOT CLICK Unless YOU GEORGI http://www.guninski.com Original Message On Oct 8, 2016, 5:42 PM, ben0wNed wrote: hi goErgiA- big crunch out - http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2016/Aug/110 Lutz Original Message On Oct 8, 2016

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
> > > On 10/09/2016 11:04 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> anyone that disagrees with you at all, must be an agent of the state. > > > No... You're mistaking me for Juan. > > Your reams of vacillating bullshit to garner reactions as the convo goes > this way and that way and sideways is typical

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
> >> Why not just address the point about Stalin, and forced work camps for >> homosexuals, starting in 1933? > > > Honestly? Because I'm not interested. You DID correct my blanket > statement about "since 1917" but the rest of your spew bores the living > fuck out of me. Thank you for retracting

[WAR] Clinton associate, bodyguard etc, deaths

2016-10-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
So 46 Clinton associates over the years are now dead, including 12 bodyguards, various attorneys and others, as detailed in a recent print edition of uncensored.co.nz - someone just sent me a scan of the two relevant pages, but they're about 1.2MiB, so I won't forward them as is. Perhaps someone ca

Re: [WAR] USA declares casus belli against Russia

2016-10-09 Thread justa
> A Country of Victorious Women or Why Russians Despise Feminism > https://www.nalin.ru/strana-pobedivshix-zhenshhin-ili-pochemu-v-rossii-prezirayut-feminizm-2620 http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/country-victorious-women-or-why-russians-despise-feminism/ri16811

[WAR] USA declares casus belli against Russia

2016-10-09 Thread justa
As we saw a month or so ago, the USA has declared that foreign government computer/network hacking would (potentially) be used by the USA as a cause for declaration of war. The media has been working up this flippancy come WW3 kickoff, and now we see the formal declaration by the USA, of step 1 -

Re: Wikileaks 10th Anniversary

2016-10-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 10:51:54AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 03:38:36PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > > https://twitter.com/embassycat > > Read this: >"UN Human Rights ‏@UNHumanRights Jun 27 >This year, the UN #Torture Fund will help +50 victims in over 81 >cou

Re: Wikileaks 10th Anniversary

2016-10-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 03:38:36PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > https://twitter.com/embassycat Read this: "UN Human Rights ‏@UNHumanRights Jun 27 This year, the UN #Torture Fund will help +50 victims in over 81 countries. Donate now http://ow.ly/i6nK301CVFe And read it as this: "UN Human

Re: The Revolution Business: For Hire

2016-10-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Chickens, karma, and human nature all imply that sooner or later, someone will deconstruct the weaknesses of the USA empire, nation, government, and target that coup lovin craven, bringing it to its God forsaken dirt licking knees. On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 04:41:01PM -0400, grarpamp wrote: > http

US Senate Brief: DeepWeb Exploiting Breaches, Cloner Nabbed, Bitcoin, HaaS

2016-10-09 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvE9Xk6_CWw http://icitech.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ICIT-Brief-Deep-Web-Exploitation-of-Health-Sector-Breach-Victims2.pdf http://icitech.org/event/electronic-health-records-the-black-market/ ICIT Senate Briefing - The Deep Web Exploitation of Health Sector Bre

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 9, 2016 4:31 PM, "juan" wrote: > > [Ceci] I will learn something more useful for me than hating the USA, Juan. > > [Juan] Like loving the pentagon, its propaganda, and its current war against russia? I already answered to your question before, Juan, and you strangely sent my old answ

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread juan
On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 13:33:56 -0700 Razer wrote: > >> And the rest: "Following its passage, there has been increased > >> discrimination against gays, and increased protests. > > > > Protests? Aren't the protests 'banned'? > > You still don't get it. There's discrimination againg gays >

The Revolution Business: For Hire

2016-10-09 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63zv2z5wcRo https://www.journeyman.tv/film/5171 The Revolution Business: Democratic change has been demanded across the Middle East. But was what seems like a spontaneous revolution actually a strategically planned event, fabricated by 'revolution consultants' long

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/09/2016 12:53 PM, juan wrote: > > Apologies, I replied to stuff Razer wrote thinking it was > Cecilia's - but my point stands anyway. > > --- > > > On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 08:27:59 -0700 > Razer wrote: > >> >> >> On 10/08/2016 09:50 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >

Torgate: Tor Pushing Another Person Out?

2016-10-09 Thread grarpamp
https://twitter.com/shiromarieke/status/784357721789304837 Several sources say that a @torproject volunteer has been bullied out of the Seattle meeting because of their support for @ioerror. If true, this is very concerning information. What are you doing, @torproject? Can anyone confirm this infor

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread juan
Apologies, I replied to stuff Razer wrote thinking it was Cecilia's - but my point stands anyway. --- On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 08:27:59 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 10/08/2016 09:50 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > It is the sad reality. > > > You're still NOT mak

Wikileaks Hosts Secret Book Of Mormon Law

2016-10-09 Thread grarpamp
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Mormon_Church_Handbook_of_Instructions,_2006 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/09/mormon-rebel-went-to-wikileaks-fo r-help.html Mormon Rebel Went to WikiLeaks for Help When a female member of the Mormon Church was being accused of apostasy, she was unable to

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread juan
On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 08:27:59 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 10/08/2016 09:50 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > It is the sad reality. > > > You're still NOT making a case for the Russian government legislating > homophobic polices. > > What X mentioned: "law banning distribution of "propaganda > of

Re: Wikileaks Dumps Clinton-Podesta WallSt Private Speeches and Mails, Google In Queue

2016-10-09 Thread grarpamp
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/09/exclusive-new-email-leak-reveals-clinton-campaigns-cozy-press-relationship/ All presidential campaigns have their favorite reporters, try to plant stories they want published, and attempt in multiple ways to curry favor with journalists. These tactics are certai

Re: Wikileaks 10th Anniversary

2016-10-09 Thread grarpamp
https://twitter.com/wikileaks https://twitter.com/wltaskforce https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuNcmxFWEAAl-lN.jpg https://twitter.com/assangecase https://twitter.com/embassycat https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/785132373654503424 If any of the emails in WL release - which have been reported everyw

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread juan
On Sun, 9 Oct 2016 09:11:28 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > On Oct 9, 2016 2:10 AM, "juan" wrote: > > > > I don't know what 'neurotic' means. I do know the ABC of > political theory though. > > Definition of neurotic: > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neurotic "

Wikileaks Dumps Clinton-Podesta WallSt Private Speeches and Mails, Google In Queue

2016-10-09 Thread grarpamp
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/ https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927 https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/1099 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/hillary-clinton-speeches-wikileaks-wall-street-emails-goldman-sachs-a7351951.html Hillary Clinton t

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/09/2016 11:04 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > anyone that disagrees with you at all, must be an agent of the state. No... You're mistaking me for Juan. Your reams of vacillating bullshit to garner reactions as the convo goes this way and that way and sideways is typical of social engin

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/09/2016 11:04 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> Your lack of specificity as a way to keep trolling the convo has been >> noted over and over and over again by Juan. > > Right. Because calling you out with a specific year which negates your > statement is a lack of specificity. > > Why not

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
> Your lack of specificity as a way to keep trolling the convo has been > noted over and over and over again by Juan. Right. Because calling you out with a specific year which negates your statement is a lack of specificity. Why not just address the point about Stalin, and forced work camps for h

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
Your lack of specificity as a way to keep trolling the convo has been noted over and over and over again by Juan. Are you too stupid to notice you've been (snigger) outed? AFAICT you're just collecting info to profile people for the Feds' social engineering ops. Rr On 10/09/2016 10:27 AM, xorc

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 9, 2016 12:12 PM, "Razer" wrote: > > On 10/09/2016 05:43 AM, Marina Brown wrote: > > wake up and face reality. > > I stopped right there. I love and admire you, Razer, but I think you should reading Marina's message. She is sharing a bit of her experiences and her fears about being a tran

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
> > > On 10/09/2016 09:52 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> >> Your assertion about Russian in 1917 was false. Period. > > > No it wasn't. By your own statement You said "AND my POINT is THERE ARE NO DISCRIMINATORY LEGAL POLICIES and haven't been since 1917." That is patently false. What I agreed

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/09/2016 09:52 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> >> You changed the topic. You lose. > > Your assertion about Russian in 1917 was false. Period. No it wasn't. By your own statement > The Russian Revolution in 1917 did bring about real change in > that way. Under Lenin, homosexuals wer

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 9, 2016 12:32 PM, "Razer" wrote: > > Human Rights Watch is PROUD of it's association with George Soros. > > "George Soros to Give $100 million to Human Rights Watch" > https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/09/07/george-soros-give-100-million-human-rights-watch > > I'll bet you believe everything yo

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
> > You changed the topic. You lose. Your assertion about Russian in 1917 was false. Period. You then picked up by ignoring that basic point, where you were wrong, and focusing on one dubious point claiming that a discriminatory law isn't discriminatory because... reasons. Some 'reason' somehow

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Razer, my dear, You _mixed_ my message and Xorcist's message. There a lot of things that I did _not_ write, which were mentioned in your answer. And the way you answered to it, using my address as unique reference, can induce the readers in mistake. Read again the messages, please. On Oct 9, 20

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/09/2016 09:23 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > prostitution is illegal Municipalities make those laws. At a federal level the laws are in regard to "Human Trafficking". Same is true in the US. The feds don't give a damn if you sell your ass as long as you aren't giving a cut to anyone o

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
> Better start looking through Russian laws about 'sexual-oriented > propaganda'. Because, just off the top of my head, for a start, material > suggesting young people visit prostitutes of the opposite gender is > illegal. Fine. But prostitution is illegal. That has nothing to do with outlawing pr

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/09/2016 08:50 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> >> What X mentioned: "law banning distribution of "propaganda >> of non-traditional sexual relationships" to minors." isn't. > > Oh? Care to explain or should we just take your word for it? Because it > seems to me that a law that makes a DIS

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread xorcist
> > What X mentioned: "law banning distribution of "propaganda > of non-traditional sexual relationships" to minors." isn't. Oh? Care to explain or should we just take your word for it? Because it seems to me that a law that makes a DISCRIMINATION between one type of material and another is, obvio

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
Human Rights Watch is PROUD of it's association with George Soros. "George Soros to Give $100 million to Human Rights Watch" https://www.hrw.org/news/2010/09/07/george-soros-give-100-million-human-rights-watch I'll bet you believe everything you read and NEVER bother to validate the source of you

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/08/2016 09:50 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > It is the sad reality. You're still NOT making a case for the Russian government legislating homophobic polices. What X mentioned: "law banning distribution of "propaganda of non-traditional sexual relationships" to minors." isn't. And the rest

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Razer
On 10/09/2016 05:43 AM, Marina Brown wrote: > wake up and face reality. I stopped right there.

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
John, thank you. Let's remind ourselves that fundamentally a one world hegemon, no matter if it's USA or Russia or anyone else for that matter, is not in our collective individual interests. This is probably not a controversial, and certainly not an uncommon, view. There are some whom, rather tha

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Marina Brown
On 10/08/2016 11:33 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 10/08/2016 08:07 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >> On Oct 8, 2016 10:04 PM, "Razer" > > wrote: >>> >>> Russia doesn't have any "homophobic policies". Russians know that. >> That's why the Soros foundation and other western LGBT o

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 9, 2016 2:10 AM, "juan" wrote: > > I don't know what 'neurotic' means. I do know the ABC of political theory though. Definition of neurotic: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neurotic > So go ahead. Do your homework =) I will learn something more useful for me th

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
* Human Rights Watch - published in January, 2016: * Jail Time for Being Gay in Russia https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/01/14/dispatches-jail-time-being-gay-russia * Russia to debate banning all public displays of affection between gay people (January, 2016) http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w

An opening to stop DRM in Web standards

2016-10-09 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Propaganda worth catapulting, IMO. :o) Tim Berners-Lee just gave us an opening to stop DRM in Web standards Submitted by Zak Rogoff on October 6, 2016 - 12:27pm This week, the chief arbiter of Web standards, Tim Berners-Lee, decided not to exercis

Re: [WAR] George Soros calls on world to unite against Vladimir Putin

2016-10-09 Thread John Newman
I feel a +100 from Alex coming on random links: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Russia http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/09/28/putin-condemns-homophobia-supports-lgbt-rights/amp/ It seems fairly nuanced. I have no idea which country, US or Russia, is more tolerant taken on th