Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-12 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Nov 11, 2016 11:34 PM, "Razer" wrote: > > Last word on the subject putz. Oh God, 'putz' is a very innocent Brazilian slang! o.O It's just another way of saying 'poxa' for us, which means 'Oh man, Whoa, Geez, Gosh' and a lot of similar ex

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Razer
Last word on the subject putz. Obtuse means you approached a topic at some odd angle that others might not immediately comprehend. Saying it means 'somehow slow' does the full meaning an injustice. Obtuseness can be a good thing. "Thinking outside the box" can be 'obtuse' thinking. Illiterate sch

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Nov 11, 2016 5:58 PM, "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > Just yesterday I read a note from someone who said that they assumed narwhals weren't real for 28 years, just realizing that they were mistaken. Narwhals are pretty beautiful. Never saw one, but I love to see whales. They are wonderful an

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:24:59PM -0800, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 11/11/16 12:16 PM, Razer wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/11/2016 12:08 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > >> On 11/11/16 12:05 PM, Razer wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 11/11/2016 11:12 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > Spec

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Nov 11, 2016 5:41 PM, "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmuck_(pejorative) > > As with other words, it can be used endearingly to mostly flip the meaning: Have a beer, you poor schmuck. Thanks Stephen! :) When I was a child, I wanted to pet a Schmoo and when

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 11/11/16 12:54 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2016 5:41 PM, "Stephen D. Williams" > wrote: > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmuck_(pejorative) > >> > > > > As with other words, it can be used endea

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 11/11/16 12:36 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > The most bizarre 'benefit' of CypherPunk list to foreign people like me is > learning new bad words and adjetives almost all the > weeks... :P > > Already knowed 'obtuse' because its writting and sound remembers a lot > 'obtuso' in Portuguese. The

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
The most bizarre 'benefit' of CypherPunk list to foreign people like me is learning new bad words and adjetives almost all the weeks... :P Already knowed 'obtuse' because its writting and sound remembers a lot 'obtuso' in Portuguese. The word is used the same way here. It's a pity to learn that

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 11/11/16 12:16 PM, Razer wrote: > > > > On 11/11/2016 12:08 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> On 11/11/16 12:05 PM, Razer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/11/2016 11:12 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: Specific and well-known historical record is obtuse? I don't think you know what that wo

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Razer
On 11/11/2016 12:08 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 11/11/16 12:05 PM, Razer wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/11/2016 11:12 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >>> Specific and well-known historical record is obtuse? I don't think >>> you know what that word means. >>> >>> sdw >> >> Yes I do. It means ta

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 11/11/16 12:05 PM, Razer wrote: > > > > On 11/11/2016 11:12 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> Specific and well-known historical record is obtuse? I don't think you know >> what that word means. >> >> sdw > > Yes I do. It means tangential... surrounded by blather... > > Go look it up. You bury

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Razer
On 11/11/2016 11:12 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > Specific and well-known historical record is obtuse? I don't think > you know what that word means. > > sdw Yes I do. It means tangential... surrounded by blather... Go look it up. You bury grams of information in pounds of trash talk. Rr

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Stephen D. Williams
Specific and well-known historical record is obtuse? I don't think you know what that word means. sdw On 11/11/16 10:54 AM, Razer wrote: > > Dude! You EXEMPLIFY "Obtuse". > > > On 11/11/2016 10:30 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> On 11/11/16 10:19 AM, Razer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/11/2016

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Razer
Dude! You EXEMPLIFY "Obtuse". On 11/11/2016 10:30 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 11/11/16 10:19 AM, Razer wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/11/2016 09:33 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> >>> "Did a Torvalds"? Are you now saying that Linus didn't contribute >>> anything significant either? Oh my.

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 11/11/16 10:19 AM, Razer wrote: > > > > On 11/11/2016 09:33 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > >> "Did a Torvalds"? Are you now saying that Linus didn't contribute anything >> significant either? Oh my. You are so clueless. >> > > I said or implied nothing of the sort. The implication is he to

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Razer
On 11/11/2016 09:33 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > "Did a Torvalds"? Are you now saying that Linus didn't contribute > anything significant either? Oh my. You are so clueless. > I said or implied nothing of the sort. The implication is he took code he owned and open-sourced it. I think tha

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Stephen D. Williams
VC never said he developed TCP/IP alone, which is why I said co-invented. Of course there were previous tries at solving networking problems that were learned from, but they were flawed and we no longer use any of them. Similarly, every patent depends on the existence of prior ideas, but is rec

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-11 Thread Razer
This is exactly what I mean... CERF DID NOT DEVELOP TCPIP ALONE, hence all sorts of offshoots like TP-K inos, jnos etc b/c a ham radio operator who was on the tcipip dev team 'did a Torvalds'. It's like saying Wozniak and Gates developed personal computers. It's literally idiotic and historically

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-10 Thread Stephen D. Williams
On 11/10/16 7:39 PM, Razer wrote: > > On 11/10/2016 03:14 PM, Mr Harkness quoted some schmuck: > > >> Twenty-five years ago, Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. > > I've seen this claim about a number of different people and you know? It's > about as ignorant a thing to say as I can imagine.

Re: [i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-10 Thread Razer
On 11/10/2016 03:14 PM, Mr Harkness quoted some schmuck: > Twenty-five years ago, Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. I've seen this claim about a number of different people and you know? It's about as ignorant a thing to say as I can imagine. One person inventing the WWW... ROTF! MAYBE th

[i...@fsf.org: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards?]

2016-11-10 Thread Mr Harkness
- Forwarded message from "Zak Rogoff, FSF" - Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 16:09:55 -0500 From: "Zak Rogoff, FSF" Reply-To: "Zak Rogoff, FSF" Subject: He invented the Web. Would he give up on free standards? Dear Mr Zenaan Harkness, The chief arbiter of Web standards, Tim Berners-Lee, has an