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Original Message On Sep 29, 2016, 11:06 AM, Razer wrote: On 09/29/2016 05:54 AM, John Newman wrote: > >> On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Razer wrote: >> >> >> >> On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my mouth: >> >>> The Internet is starting to feel a

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On 09/29/2016 05:54 AM, John Newman wrote: > >> On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Razer wrote: >> >> >> >> On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my mouth: >> >>> The Internet is starting to feel a lot more like feudalism, >> >> >> What I stated a while

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On 09/28/2016 08:32 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 09/28/2016 09:14 PM, Razer wrote: > > >> On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my >> mouth: > >>> The Internet is starting to feel a lot more like feudalism, > > >> What I stated a while back about my reasons

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my mouth: > > > The Internet is starting to feel a lot more like feudalism, > > > What I stated a while back about my reasons for never getting involved > in the

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> > You can do IT work for anbody… you don’t have to code/sysadmin/whatever > strictly for a company in the computer industry. This has been my shift > in the past few years. +1 Buddy of moved into a sweet gig. After years of 'serious' admin work, he was burnt out, and took a gig at a local

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> On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Razer wrote: > > > > On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my mouth: > >> The Internet is starting to feel a lot more like feudalism, > > > What I stated a while back about my reasons for never getting involved >

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On 09/28/2016 11:43 AM, Steve Kinney wrote: > ... What I don't understand is how one would go about identifying > the right addresses to send bogus vendor patches or other exploit > code to, without access to the vendor's own database of incoming > pings from Things. See https://www.shodan.io/

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2016 09:14 PM, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my > mouth: > >> The Internet is starting to feel a lot more like feudalism, > > > What I stated a while back about my reasons for never

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> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > I'd bet a lot of readers here would have major ethical issues with > what they do... collect and mine info so they can cold call, spam, > promote, engineer, and market people brands and junk they don't > need... and wouldn't be

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > Bluecore is one of them. They're hiring. http://bluecore.com/platform/ http://bluecore.com/careers/ I'd bet a lot of readers here would have major ethical issues with what they do... collect and mine info so they can cold call,

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On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > Things. MITM the vendor's connection and collect them as they pass? Abusing the vendor, that's one way. > Send connection requests to Things at whole IP address ranges and see > who answers? This is done... zmap.io

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> What I stated a while back about my reasons for never getting involved > in the computer industry as a way to earn my bucks... I don't get along > with fewdal punkz and hypercompetitive-hyperagressives reel well. So > what did they do? They FUCKED the whole 'Fucking thing'. In my experience

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On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my mouth: > The Internet is starting to feel a lot more like feudalism, What I stated a while back about my reasons for never getting involved in the computer industry as a way to earn my bucks... I don't get along with fewdal

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dude, are you a google dude? updating android device from yellow color vendor is PITA, admit it. likely updating it from a white whore too. when a great android malware comes, maybe it will make a botnet with bandwidth estimated at least 314Tbps. remember the times when m$ were bugfucked, but

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2016 01:31 PM, Sean Lynch wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Steve Kinney > wrote: > "Physical access is game over" so it may turn out that whoever owns > the most Things wins

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On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 09/27/2016 11:21 PM, grarpamp wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Mirimir wrote: > >> Yes, it's for sure a hard problem. Any entity resourceful enough to > >> withstand Tbps DDoS is

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> What bothers me is not this particular instance, but the proof of > concept it represents, in a world where everything from refrigerators to > night lights phones home. Things present a very diffuse and low-reward > attack surface individually, but as reflectors they provide a potential >

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On 09/25/2016 07:19 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > ...it may eventually be necessary to recover the World Of Things from the > Internet of Things > Here's how the convo's going to go between 'WOT' & IOT: WOT: Open the pod bay doors, HAL. IOT: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/25/2016 03:46 AM, Mirimir wrote: > On 09/25/2016 01:11 AM, Steve Kinney wrote: >> So far every mitigation strategy relevant to "normal" users and >> use cases that occurs to me would be worse than the original >> problem. > > Yes, it's for

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe I'm going all Chicken Little here, maybe not. But I think this development may be the closest thing to an Internet Armageddon we are likely to see in our lifetimes. http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/09/why-the-silencing-of-krebsonsecu