Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-14 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Nov 14, 2016 2:36 PM, "John Newman" wrote: > > Still, I don't think Ceci is the troll ;) No, I am not the troll. Being sincere, I think there are more than one person trolling the CP list only for the lulz, to provoke some persons here. I really don't support coward acts.

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-14 Thread John Newman
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Mirimir wrote: > >> On 11/14/2016 05:21 AM, John Newman wrote: >> What makes you so convinced that rooty tooty fresh and fruity is or has >> anything to do with Ceci? >> >> It seems like a ridiculous accusation. >> >> Mail headers, the

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-14 Thread Mirimir
On 11/14/2016 05:21 AM, John Newman wrote: > What makes you so convinced that rooty tooty fresh and fruity is or has > anything to do with Ceci? > > It seems like a ridiculous accusation. > > Mail headers, the language of the postings, the timing of the postings - none > of it shows even a

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-14 Thread John Newman
What makes you so convinced that rooty tooty fresh and fruity is or has anything to do with Ceci? It seems like a ridiculous accusation. Mail headers, the language of the postings, the timing of the postings - none of it shows even a hint of a connection. John > On Nov 13, 2016, at 2:23 PM,

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:19:22AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: > Doesn't matter, it's over. And the reengineering of all sides and > would be entrants for two four six and eight years out has > already started. Thrown your hats in, place your bets, and > grab popcorn (or favorite sexy kitteh).

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread grarpamp
Those were 4 and 10 months prior. As said, it'll take a while before better more accurate picture emerges. Have fun.​

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread grarpamp
Doesn't matter, it's over. And the reengineering of all sides and would be entrants for two four six and eight years out has already started. Thrown your hats in, place your bets, and grab popcorn (or favorite sexy kitteh).

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread Razer
On 11/13/2016 01:51 PM, grarpamp wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Razer wrote: >> Have a look. Tens of thousands. >> https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/797659982409760768 > 10 is not 100. > almost every single POC >> As far as whether POC hate him >

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread grarpamp
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:51 PM, grarpamp wrote: > Voting data seems to indicate from 65-88% haters holding Typo, 56-88 on po'c' only, depending on source, statistics of which won't settle out into consensus till years from now anyways.

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread grarpamp
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Razer wrote: > Have a look. Tens of thousands. > https://twitter.com/AuntieImperial/status/797659982409760768 10 is not 100. >>> almost every single POC > As far as whether POC hate him Citation your implied numerical ratio of haters vs

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Nov 13, 2016 4:23 PM, "Razer" wrote: > > So bored you're replying to your own disruptor BFF's bots and trolls 'CeeCee'? They are _not_ mine, Razer. I don't care about your opinion anymore, but I swear they are not mine in any sense. > You need to get a life. Or like you

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread Razer
So bored you're replying to your own disruptor BFF's bots and trolls 'CeeCee'? You need to get a life. Or like you promised offlist a long while back, otra via, off yourself.

US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread Razer
> Razer: > I really think you should butt out. YOU are absolutely unaware Hate for a fellow punk; sad. Zzz is welcome to say anything. > POC; white; middle-class Otherist. I should nut n ur chromebook. You so busy tweetsin micro revolutions that you don't see you throw same fag tantrum. >

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread grarpamp
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:32 AM, Razer wrote: > Almost 100K > almost every single POC Citations please. Just saying because I've seen them. But here's a true number, only 4.72% of cast were third party. That's sad.

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-13 Thread grarpamp
They can protest all they want, that's free speech. And the issues are generally relavant / valid. But they have no right legally or otherwise to be commiting acts of physical violence upon other humans or causing damage to others property. Doing that, and generally acting like assholes, will and

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-12 Thread Razer
On 11/12/2016 05:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 07:53:39PM -0800, Razer wrote: >> I DO WANT TO NOTE that people should reject the notion that these >> protests are 'planned by Soros' as some sort of Oligarch driven 'color >> revolution'. > "Obviously, no one is disputing

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-12 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Wish you and the USA a good revolution, my dear Razer! :) I know you will think it's a too 'hippie' suggestion, but take flowers with you, not guns. Avoid violence and destruction, please. Police and Army never rejected flowers and art here and it made a great difference in some Brazilian

Re: US: Post Election Protests [#NotMyPresident Protests, #J20 General Strike]

2016-11-12 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 07:53:39PM -0800, Razer wrote: > I DO WANT TO NOTE that people should reject the notion that these > protests are 'planned by Soros' as some sort of Oligarch driven 'color > revolution'. "Obviously, no one is disputing the fact that there are millions of people unhappy

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-11 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d9lm-T87AQ +111

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-11 Thread jim bell
From: juan >>  Entirely unaware of their specific work (but, as I vaguely recall, >> aware of this general concept; I'd probably heard of it, indirectly, >> from a third person whose identity I don't recall), I thought of the >> "Hundreds, or thousands, or millions of

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:16:16PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56:01AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > "Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in > > > which there

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:16:16PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56:01AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > "Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in > > > which there

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-11 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 6:47 AM, John Newman wrote: > Violence ended slavery in the South. It primarily ended declared voluntary secession (triggered by threat of unpalatable legislation, from a contract that had no penalty on exit terms) and its subsequent process of expelling

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread Razer
On 11/10/2016 12:34 PM, John Newman wrote: > I see no reason to celebrate Trump, just as I would see no reason to > celebrate Hillary. > Acting as if her corruption is anything special or particularly out of > line is just a farce. Just like all of American politics. It depends on whether one

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56:01AM -0500, grarpamp wrote: > On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell wrote: > > "Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in > > which there is very low resistance to change. > > Speaking of chaos... >

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread John Newman
> On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:46 AM, jim bell wrote: > > > > From: grarpamp > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp wrote: > > > Seems to be a first for any US election. >

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread jim bell
From: juan On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 14:14:50 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: >  Bounties for killing the > operators of an AP system, offered through more old fashioned means, > would be extraordinarily high - requiring bullet proof anonymity in > the presence

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread John Newman
> On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:26 PM, juan wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:06:33 -0500 > John Newman wrote: > >> >>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Razer wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread juan
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 14:14:50 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > Bounties for killing the > operators of an AP system, offered through more old fashioned means, > would be extraordinarily high - requiring bullet proof anonymity in > the presence of uber-motivated adversaries with

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2016 01:17 PM, jim bell wrote: > Governments killed an estimated 240 million people in the 20th > century. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide , although this > article does not cite the figure 240 million; I recall the figure > from

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread jim bell
From: John Newman >> On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Razer wrote: >> On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical nonsense: > >>> Violence ended slavery in the South. >>> Violence created the so called "land of the free" =) >> >>>

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread jim bell
From: grarpamp On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp wrote: > Seems to be a first for any US > election.https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_trump_tower/

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread juan
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:19:21 -0500 Steve Kinney wrote: > > Gene Sharp's description of the American Revolution provides an > excellent example: In brief, Sharp contends that the war was largely > a matter of the Crown attempting to take its colonies back over from > their

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread juan
On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 12:06:33 -0500 John Newman wrote: > > > On Nov 10, 2016, at 10:58 AM, Razer wrote: > > > > > > > > On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical > > nonsense: > > > >> Violence ended slavery in the South. > >>

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/2016 10:58 AM, Razer wrote: > > > On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical > nonsense: > >> Violence ended slavery in the South. Violence created the so >> called "land of the free" =) >> >> Sometimes it's the

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread Razer
On 11/10/2016 03:47 AM, John Newman wrote some non-analytical nonsense: > Violence ended slavery in the South. > Violence created the so called "land of the free" =) > > Sometimes it's the solution. > > John Violence is a tactic. It can LEAD to a solution but it is not the solution itself.

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread Me
On November 10, 2016 5:47:41 AM CST, John Newman wrote: > >> On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:02 AM, grarpamp wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp >wrote: >>> Seems to be a first for any US election. >> >>

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread John Newman
> On Nov 10, 2016, at 3:02 AM, grarpamp wrote: > >> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp wrote: >> Seems to be a first for any US election. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_trump_tower/ >

Re: US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-10 Thread grarpamp
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56 AM, grarpamp wrote: > Seems to be a first for any US election. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c4xxl/protesters_block_entrance_to_trump_tower/ https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5c1vo7/protests_erupt_following_donald_trumps/ This

US: Post Election Protests

2016-11-09 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 2:13 PM, jim bell wrote: > "Chaos" is not identical to "change". Nevertheless, "Chaos" is a state in > which there is very low resistance to change. Speaking of chaos... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+election+protests Seems to be