Re: Quantum Computers

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 09:07:25PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote: > I'm inclined to agree. Both relativity and quantum mechanics are > "counter intuitive" because they address events at scales and in > contexts not encountered in everyday human sensory experience. But Another example for this are v

Excellent article about Cypherpunks.

http://passcode.csmonitor.com/cypherpunk A small part of this article:"Soon, an even nastier suggestion appeared on the list: a public hit list for politicians, set up as a portal for contract killing. It also came from a former Intel engineer, Jim Bell. He was one of the most radical minds on

Re: Social Engineering 99: Because thinking is hard ... Cognitive bias cheat sheet

On 9/6/16 8:25 PM, Razer wrote: > https://betterhumans.coach.me/cognitive-bias-cheat-sheet-55a472476b18 Nice, thanks. I collect and study these. This is nice: https://medium.com/@yegg/mental-models-i-find-repeatedly-useful-936f1cc405d sdw

Re: Philosophokiddies

On 9/6/16 8:13 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 09/06/2016 10:14 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > > On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: > >> On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his > >>> love for some politicia

Re: Philosophokiddies

On 9/6/16 9:01 PM, jim bell wrote: > > *From:* jim bell > *From:* Stephen D. Williams > On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: >> On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 >> Cecilia Tanaka >> wrote: >> >>> I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his love for

Re: Philosophokiddies

From: jim bell From: Stephen D. Williams On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his love for some politicians, like Putin and Trump. Every person has own value, but I really abo

Re: Philosophokiddies

From: Stephen D. Williams On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his love for some politicians, like Putin and Trump. Every person has own value, but I really abominate politician

Re: Social Engineering 99: Because thinking is hard ... Cognitive bias cheat sheet

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 08:25:00PM -0700, Razer wrote: > > https://betterhumans.coach.me/cognitive-bias-cheat-sheet-55a472476b18 Woah! Now we're starting to rock. Will read this a bit later. +100

Social Engineering 99: Because thinking is hard ... Cognitive bias cheat sheet

https://betterhumans.coach.me/cognitive-bias-cheat-sheet-55a472476b18

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 13:08:00 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > As Juan (and others) has so eloquently pointed out so many times, we > do not have democracy, and we have never seen democracy. I don't think I said that. We certainly have democracy if we go by common definitions of dem

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 11:32:07PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:14:07 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > > > > /Churchill by Himself > > /, 574: > > > https://mises.org/library/real-churchill > > The Rea

Re: Philosophokiddies

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2016 10:14 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: >> On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka >> wrote: >> >>> I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his >>> love for some politicians, lik

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 07:10:55PM -0700, Razer wrote: > > > On 09/06/2016 05:24 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 08:44:14AM -0700, Razer wrote: > >> I've already noted attempts to use common psycho-emotional traits of > >> activists as an attempt to glean info about myself.

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Sep 6, 2016 11:01 PM, "juan" wrote: > > We should be trashing *all* politicians including, of course, putin. Yup, I really hate _all_ the politicians and would love to trash all of them. Hyllary, Trump, Putin, Obama (was a great deception for me!), Temer (Brazil), etc, etc... :(( >

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 07:14:07PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 > > Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > > >> I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his love for > >> some politicians, like Putin and Trump. Every p

Re: [j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

Very contraditory criticize the lack of transparency in institutions like the Tor Project and do the same thing here. A little group discussing the future of a whole list, judging persons? Not honest. Off-list means exclude the oppinions of the whole group. -- "I disapprove of what you say, but

Re: [j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

If you all want to create a new list just for your little friends, excluding everybody who thinks different, simply do it, instead making so much drama. Just it. -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." On Sep 6, 2016 11:54 PM, "Cecilia Tanaka" wrot

Re: [j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

Everybody talks so much about women, but always are the men who make mischief, little games, intrigues and gossip off-list, aff... :-/ -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." On Sep 6, 2016 11:42 PM, "Zenaan Harkness" wrote: > Some of the back sto

Re: Politically Correct and Hypocrisy

On Sep 6, 2016 10:38 PM, "Steve Kinney" wrote: > > vs. Passive aggressive. People who go around looking for excuses to be offended are themselves on the offensive, looking to dominate the social environment for the sake of dominance itself. We do have effective, non-polarizing ways of dealing wi

Re: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children

On 09/06/2016 12:47 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > With a good critical thinking base, it is fairly easy to avoid the 'evil' of > technology and technology-enabled communications while > benefiting greatly from broad knowledge, understanding, and, ideally, > beneficial connections. If you are

[j...@pipeline.com: Re: offlist - Re: individual responsibility - was Re: Nationalism vs Globalism]

Some of the back story, Alex and Juan agree with John Young that, especially list related discussion, should be on list. So, conspiracy theories, self indulgent tripe, and all the rest for your gossiping indulgence.. Zenaan - Forwarded message from John Young - Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016

Re: German spies violated law, must delete XKeyscore database—watchdog

On 09/06/2016 07:03 AM, Katana wrote: > Hi, > >> So does this mean that NSA let BND access its intercept backend? > > I think no. But they provide soft- and hardware like XKS or > Wealthycluster systems and selectors via NSA's European Technology > Center (ETC) in Wiesbaden and the SUSLAG (NSA Sp

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:14:07 -0700 "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > /Churchill by Himself > /, 574: https://mises.org/library/real-churchill The Real Churchill0 2/27/2004 Adam Young "With his lack of princ

Re: Philosophokiddies

On 9/6/16 7:07 PM, juan wrote: > On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 > Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > >> I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his love for >> some politicians, like Putin and Trump. Every person has own value, >> but I really abominate politicians, ugh! :P > We s

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On 09/06/2016 05:24 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 08:44:14AM -0700, Razer wrote: >> I've already noted attempts to use common psycho-emotional traits of >> activists as an attempt to glean info about myself. I'M NOT providing >> any further details > > Well done! That's a

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:23:59 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > I make jokes with Zen, but I respect him too. Just hate his love for > some politicians, like Putin and Trump. Every person has own value, > but I really abominate politicians, ugh! :P We should be trashing *all* politician

Re: Politically Correct and Hypocrisy

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/2016 04:43 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/5/16 1:12 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >> >> Sometimes, I have very strong suicidal tendencies, because this >> hypocrite world, where everybody pretend being "politically >> correct" is _not_

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Sep 6, 2016 10:06 PM, "juan" wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:54:53 -0300 > Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > > And, being sincere, I really like to read his messages. It's always interesting to know new points of view. > > You seem to like a fair amount of american fascists... But I _love_

Re: Quantum Computers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2016 01:43 PM, Xer0Dynamite wrote: > On 9/6/16, jim bell wrote: >> https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-06/quantum-computers- are-coming-the-world-might-not-be-ready?cmpid=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo >> >> >> [partial quote] >> Qua

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On Sep 6, 2016 9:24 PM, "Zenaan Harkness" wrote: > > Oh Georgi, dunno for sure, but I would not ordinarily have named CIA operatives as "trolls", more like marauding adventurers, clamouring for the next sovereign nation overthrow (the next Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Brazil...) > > They get paid too

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:54:53 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > And, being sincere, I really like to read his messages. It's always > interesting to know new points of view. You seem to like a fair amount of american fascists...

Re: Political Cypherpunks Trumps Apolitical Cryptography

Aaaand, there you have it :) SDW aka Weapons of Sanity Destruction, has made his decision - protect the id (sdw) at all costs. I was contemplating this last night, and dominoes obviously presented themselves - burn the addy, or soldier on. a) Burn the addy, start anew: some IDs have quite a bit

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Sep 6, 2016 9:41 PM, "Zenaan Harkness" wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 05:11:58PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > > But that's off topic. > > Couldn'ta said ut batter mahself. Yes Stephen, you're offtopic. Stephen is so 'off-topic' as most of us, Zenaan. Like you and me, for example.

Re: Philosophokiddies

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 05:11:58PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > But that's off topic. Couldn'ta said ut batter mahself. Yes Stephen, you're offtopic.

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 08:44:14AM -0700, Razer wrote: > I've already noted attempts to use common psycho-emotional traits of > activists as an attempt to glean info about myself. I'M NOT providing > any further details Well done! That's a great place to get to :) Sticks and stones..

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

(PS: May be check your whitelisting - this email landed in spam, with a few others, due to the new list domain...) On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 06:01:41AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 09/06/2016 05:44 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls? > > > > I hear that t

Re: Philosophokiddies

On 9/6/16 1:50 PM, PhiloKing wrote: A king now? You have an impressive grasp of cutting edge political systems. >> Some wannabe philosopher: >> philosophokiddies > Reading philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher. Clearly; that was my point. But I didn't say anything about reading philosophy.

Philosophokiddies

> Some wannabe philosopher: > philosophokiddies Reading philosophy doesn't make you a philosopher. Thinking does. Fucker.

Cypherpunk Manifesto

> Some doppelgänger fucker: > Fuck you and you're anarchist ways! We gonna censor this list NOW! The real Timmay says: This list is uncensored forever, Timmay! Anything goes. Fuckers.

Re: ROTF! Techie Hipster Soirée invaded at BurnTheMan

On 9/6/16 8:10 AM, Razer wrote: > > On 09/05/2016 11:20 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > >> With unlimited funding, how many do you suppose had martial arts, boxing, >> wrestling, football, and/or military training? > Nice myth. > > Should we poll the list? > > Lots spend time at a gym, buy $5k bi

Re: Political Cypherpunks Trumps Apolitical Cryptography

On 9/6/16 4:06 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 02:05:35PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: >> On 9/5/16 2:07 PM, juan wrote: >>> On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 11:39:12 -0700 >>> "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: >>> What this does not include is promoting or bashing particular poli

Re: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children

With a good critical thinking base, it is fairly easy to avoid the 'evil' of technology and technology-enabled communications while benefiting greatly from broad knowledge, understanding, and, ideally, beneficial connections. If you are limited to or you choose the path of ignorance, you may fal

Re: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children

On 09/06/2016 10:55 AM, Peressim wrote: > My neice now at age of 10 years old, spend hours on youtube, and I am > not concerned if she is catching bugs, or figuring out that the internet > is slow, but instead I am concerned that the evil the techonology is > making to happen to our children, bes

Re: new list ?

I would strongly advise not to split the list, nor get impatient. These types of rants always occur at inflection points on the political landscape of the world-at-large. Moving discussion off the list risks making the whole tribe become irrelevant, because in the end: it is that "world-at-large"

Re: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children

My neice now at age of 10 years old, spend hours on youtube, and I am not concerned if she is catching bugs, or figuring out that the internet is slow, but instead I am concerned that the evil the techonology is making to happen to our children, besides the evil that it is also doing to us. Tech

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On 09/06/2016 10:33 AM, Jason McVetta wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Georgi Guninski > wrote: > > I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it > appears to support this. > > > Where did you hear said claim? > > > > I

Re: Quantum Computers

On 9/6/16, jim bell wrote: > https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-06/quantum-computers-are-coming-the-world-might-not-be-ready?cmpid=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo > > [partial quote] > Quantum mechanics, Carl Sagan once observed, is so strange that "common > sense is almost useless in approa

Useful for Data Mining and Social Network Stalking: "The Six Basic Emotional Arcs of Storytelling"

I alway check new twitter followers for bots and data mining. Especially if they don't seem to be 'my type'. This turned up from a follow who was sweeping for the word "market" and found it here: as a tweet of a Le Monde Diplomatique li

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it > appears to support this. > Where did you hear said claim? > I don't see enough "value" in the list for such attack, Alternatively, one could take that as (weak) eviden

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/06/2016 07:44 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls? > > I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it > appears to support this. > > Why so? > > I don't see enough "value" in the

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On 09/06/2016 05:01 AM, Mirimir wrote: > On 09/06/2016 05:44 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: >> Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls? >> >> I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it >> appears to support this. > > That makes about as much sense as anything else, I gu

Re: Cypherpunk Manifesto

On 09/06/2016 05:42 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > Yep, Bastiani is right. Lots and lots of times harder. And, even this > way, will be a complete waste of the time. Yours and ours. > > This list never will be moderated because of whining babies. Please, > try a pacifier or a baby bottle to ca

Re: ROTF! Techie Hipster Soirée invaded at BurnTheMan

On 09/05/2016 11:20 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > With unlimited funding, how many do you suppose had martial arts, boxing, > wrestling, football, and/or military training? Nice myth. Should we poll the list? Lots spend time at a gym, buy $5k bikes and ride them around the mountains until

Re: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children

On 09/05/2016 10:50 PM, Mirimir wrote: > On 09/05/2016 11:38 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: >> The nephew of a friend was drawing with me. I drew the sun and a little >> boat in the sea. He drew a lot of squares and explained me: - It's a >> tablet, a cell phone, a notebook... :P > > ;) > >> He

Re: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children

On 09/05/2016 10:21 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 08:00:04PM -0700, Razer wrote: >> A friend of mine about her four year old: >> >> "My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was >> really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering"

Re: This list

Delays are easy to trouble shoot with sufficient data (headers). On 09/06/16 09:49 -, fixyourshit wrote: Archive messages are delayed by hours and out of order as a result. Fix your shit. -- Dan White

Re: Cypherpunk Manifesto

You need to try harder if you're trying to provoke moderation in the list.2:15 PM, September 6, 2016, Timmay :On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 06:02:56AM -, Timmay wrote: Anything goes. Fuckers.Fuck you and you're anarchist ways! We gonna censor this list NOW!-- You’re not from the Castle, you’re not fr

A Joke from some Yahoo!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This just in from Yahoo!, because I use IMAP and a mail reader rather than a whole uber-expolitable (by comparison) web browser (or a dedicated spyware app). Too much fud. I mean fun. "If you've already taken action on this, you can disregard this

Re: German spies violated law, must delete XKeyscore database—watchdog

Hi, > So does this mean that NSA let BND access its intercept backend? I think no. But they provide soft- and hardware like XKS or Wealthycluster systems and selectors via NSA's European Technology Center (ETC) in Wiesbaden and the SUSLAG (NSA Special US Liaison Activity Germany) in the Mangfall

Re: Cypherpunk Manifesto

Yep, Bastiani is right. Lots and lots of times harder. And, even this way, will be a complete waste of the time. Yours and ours. This list never will be moderated because of whining babies. Please, try a pacifier or a baby bottle to calm yourself when you feel like a crying baby, needy, wantin

The Zündel Trials (1985 and 1988)

Speaking of publishing, free speech, etc... “When you realize everything of major importance you have learned is a lie you will be on the right track.” Quote by MK The Zündel Trials (1985 and 1988) [Editor's Note: The text of this article was first published by Robert Faurisson in the Journal

Re: Politically Correct and Hypocrisy

On Sep 5, 2016 5:43 PM, "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > This is a sad episode. And example of: > https://medium.com/@nntaleb/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15 Sorry, yesterday, I gave you an incomplete answer, because was busy, running to several diffe

Re: Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

On 09/06/2016 05:44 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls? > > I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it > appears to support this. That makes about as much sense as anything else, I guess ;) But what evidence do you have? URLs? >

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 01:30:14PM +0200, Tom wrote: > On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 08:18:58PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > We don't have those pay cheques, and we are the target of the system and > > those who control the system > > Nope. > > The "system" doesn't care about you. You're just a nu

Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls?

Why could this list be a target for (paid) trolls? I hear that this list is target of (paid) trolls and browsing it appears to support this. Why so? I don't see enough "value" in the list for such attack, short of just propaganda playground.

Finland Prepares Their First Tests Of A Universal Basic Income

- Forwarded message from Slashdot Headlines - Finland Prepares Their First Tests Of A Universal Basic Income http://clicks.slashdot.org/ct.html?ufl=3&rtr=on&s=x8pb08,2mgf7,10sc,ahxi,kngz,4hdj,ehhv Finland Prepares Their First Tests Of A Universal Basic Income http://clicks.slashdot.org

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 08:18:58PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > We don't have those pay cheques, and we are the target of the system and > those who control the system Nope. The "system" doesn't care about you. You're just a number, if anyting. - Tom

Re: Cypherpunk Manifesto

On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 06:02:56AM -, Timmay wrote: > Anything goes. > > Fuckers. Fuck you and you're anarchist ways! We gonna censor this list NOW!

Re: cypherpunks Digest, Vol 39, Issue 37

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 06:34:58PM -0700, Razer wrote: > http://www.ep.tc/realist/76/15.html Oh wow. Thank you Rayzer. "Revolution for the hell of it" Yeah! My kind of newspaper :)

Re: Political Cypherpunks Trumps Apolitical Cryptography

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 02:05:35PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/5/16 2:07 PM, juan wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 11:39:12 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > >> What this does not include is promoting or bashing particular > >> political systems or plotting their demise > >

This list

Archive messages are delayed by hours and out of order as a result. Fix your shit.

Cypherpunk Manifesto

Anything goes. Fuckers.

Re: Fw: Political Cypherpunks Trumps Apolitical Cryptography

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 12:45:04PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/05/2016 11:39 AM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > > On 9/5/16 8:13 AM, Razer wrote: > >> On 09/04/2016 10:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness quoted, I believe John Young: > >> > >>> That sounds like what cypherpunks was set up to combat, the > >>> wit

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 06:40:49PM -0700, Razer wrote: > On 09/05/2016 02:27 PM, juan wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:21:09 -0700 > > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > >> Regardless of what Tim may or may not have wanted to happen in some > >> or all cases, it doesn't say it in his signature, or in

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 06:27:47PM -0300, juan wrote: > On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:21:09 -0700 > "Stephen D. Williams" wrote: > > > Regardless of what Tim may or may not have wanted to happen in some > > or all cases, it doesn't say it in his signature, or in the manifesto. > > That is of course

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 02:03:18PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/5/16 1:24 PM, John Young wrote: > > Also Eric Hughes: A Cypherpunk's Manifesto, 9 March 1993 > > > > http://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html > Yes, I should have included that link. Let's call it [EricCM]. I jus

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

Absolutely stunning insights! Thank you so much John (and of course Eric Hughes). On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 04:24:14PM -0400, John Young wrote: > Also Eric Hughes: A Cypherpunk's Manifesto, 9 March 1993 > > http://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html > > Understanding distinction between p

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 01:05:00PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > On 9/5/16 12:44 PM, Razer wrote: > > > > On 09/05/2016 12:21 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > >> Regardless of what Tim may or may not have wanted to happen in some or > >> all cases, it doesn't say it in his signature, or in th

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

Aww, come on, I need a little down time... On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 12:21:09PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote: > (Apologies for rehashing this, but it seems a good time to make another pass > at consensus.) > > This is how I always thought about the Cypherpunks charter: > > Cypherpunks exist

On Bitcoin Security in the Presence of Broken Crypto Primitives

On Bitcoin Security in the Presence of Broken Crypto Primitives https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/167.pdf Some breakage allows stealing coins. Their mitigation in this case suggest centralization...

Quantum Computers

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-09-06/quantum-computers-are-coming-the-world-might-not-be-ready?cmpid=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo [partial quote] Quantum mechanics, Carl Sagan once observed, is so strange that "common sense is almost useless in approaching it." Scientists still don't un

Re: German spies violated law, must delete XKeyscore database—watchdog

On 09/06/2016 01:58 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > German spies violated law, must delete XKeyscore database—watchdog > > "Information about many innocent individuals was gathered, says leaked > report." > > http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/09/german-spies-broke-law-must-delete-xkeyscore-data

German spies violated law, must delete XKeyscore database—watchdog

German spies violated law, must delete XKeyscore database—watchdog "Information about many innocent individuals was gathered, says leaked report." http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/09/german-spies-broke-law-must-delete-xkeyscore-database-says-watchdog -- "I disapprove of what you say, but

Re: [OFFLIST] Re: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children

On Sep 6, 2016 3:48 AM, "Mirimir" wrote: > > On 09/06/2016 12:21 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > > > Well, sometimes, looking to myself at mirror, I think "Uh, I need to keep better my hardware! It's an old model, so I need to take care!" :-/ > > It's your game piece, probably the only one you'll

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

Still trying to figure out if (when i signed up to this list) i came to the house party in the crypto ghetto or Bruce Schneier's dinner party. I know which i'd prefer :) On 6 September 2016 05:15:39 GMT+01:00, "Александр" wrote: >2016-09-05 22:44 GMT+03:00 Razer : > >> > Regardless of what Tim