Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

[Mirimir]

On 09/09/2016 11:02 AM, Cypher Piggie wrote:
>> Bro, you keep sayin' that ;)
>> Got a BTC address or something?
> 
> rickroll mah shit large nigga 121Aspd9j8a6t5G3mCvPS3e5H1p3w6PKj2

Bro, there's nothing there :(

I meant an address with at least 100 EUR in it :)

Better yet, a suitable escrow account.

Are there escrow services that use death or pwnage as confirmation?

Let's Talk About Juan... ;-)

[Cypher Piggie]

> julian

droppin bombs

> sea piggie

oh now you dont like the free speech and want to make bacon
FUCKING HYPOCTIRE an TROLL just like USA JUAN.

> As was said last year, my personal intent is to respect the intenet of
the founders of this forum/list.

which youve bloody well DISrespected since day one along with jackass juan

> and a whole internet more, just a search away

none of which you are on bc you either got BANNED or youre TROLLING
OFFTOPIC HERE instead of finding welcome list for ur "love of *" talk,
even many other people said that first

> cannot personally block you

u cannot not read u stupid hooked on TV gameshow mudafucka
well here the "final answer" spoiler, juan is a US Citizen and abusive
troll hobby man to block

> OFFENSIVE BEHAVIOUR BECAUSE OF RACE, COLOUR OR NATIONAL
> OR ETHNIC ORIGIN

juan is US citizen troll

> Ignoring trolls is the best policy.

yes ignore juan the first and OG troll of them all

> If I sound like a broken record it's because

becaus you have nothin to back up ur trashtalk but repeat smash spam spam
spam burn kill smash hate angry lil troll ur mama abuse u juan

> Oh and there even are lunatics

better them than abuser like u juan tryin fuck people all teh time what
dont want fucked thats rape juan u wana talk bout rape juan
u wana talk bout love you support juan
u wana talk bout why you US citizen in south america juan
beside ur personal little troll oper8ion u play fo that sick master in yo
skull
do ya juan

Why Government Always Gets Cybersecurity Wrong

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Why Government Always Gets Cybersecurity Wrong

https://fee.org/articles/why-government-always-gets-cybersecurity-wrong/

sea sea
--
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it."

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

[Stephen D. Williams]

On 9/9/16 7:42 AM, Razer wrote:
>
> On 09/08/2016 11:42 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
>> And why do you think it was unfair?
>
> Simply? Because you don't have the vaguest fucking idea where I've been
> or what I know. Troll.

None of that matters if you can't have a civil and coherent conversation.  
You're the troll.  Let's recap:
> On 9/5/16 12:44 PM, Razer wrote:
> - hide quoted text -
>> On 09/05/2016 12:21 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
>>> Regardless of what Tim may or may not have wanted to happen in some or
>>> all cases, it doesn't say it in his signature, or in the manifesto.
>> He's saying it with his LIFE dude. Maybe you need to get one too?
>
> Do you think that you are clearly communicating?

Well, do you?  What does "He's saying it with his LIFE dude." mean?

>
> Do you suffer from some version of, as my friend used to say, "post 1960's 
> perception disorder"?

Seems like a valid question at this point especially given the other half:

> Ps. I've met Tim in passing over my 40 year residence in the area. Never
> even knew of his significance you know?
>
> I don't know if you've ever been to Corralitos, so I'll tell you EXACTLY
> WHY he's "gone all hermit with a gun". When he moved up there it was
> outlaw land in Santa Cruz County. Gravel roads, NO BEEMERS, they didn't
> want to chip their car's paint and gravel is rough on suspension parts
> et al. Pot growers everywhere. Last Chance Road, north of Santa Cruz was
> another such place. Above Boulder Creek ditto. The office crowd didn't
> want to live up some slightly improved logging road.
>
> Fast forward 2 or 3 decades of unchecked gentrification in the Santa
> Cruz mountains. Now he's surrounded... by people just... like... you.
> That's why he owns a gun.

You say you are going to 'tell you EXACTLY WHY he's "gone all hermit with a 
gun"' and then ... you don't.  You say it has something
to do with gentrification.  That's not a why unless you've already established 
why someone should be deathly afraid and clutching
their gun because soccer moms are invading next door.

>
> Rr
>

sdw

Re: [WAR] Julian Assange - a one man Hillary Rodham Clinton wrecking ball

[Cypher Piggie]

> Ignoring trolls is the best policy.

sending juan virus for his lil troll dick is best polecy
make sure is written by putin to offend his US Status even more

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

[Cypher Piggie]

> if you want usable list, consider some self-moderation, like not
> ( being juan )

juan be addicted to TROLL and other sick things and cannot selfstop till
stopped by others

Re: Philosophokiddies

[Cypher Piggie]

> people agree that it will produce a VERY peaceful, POLITE society.  I've

this true, once juan and his troll computer self are eliminated, here will
become very peaceful list almost zenlike except for zen problem which
someone else put hit for

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

[Cypher Piggie]

> You think that qualifies as ridicule?  I should introduce you to my
> ex-wife.  You wouldn't last five minutes.

there is asshole abuser named juanTROLL that need have his balls SMASHed
put back inside him by femdom, please put EX of yours and him in contact
he is juan@gmail.com

Re: Philosophokiddies

[jim bell]

 From: Stephen D. Williams 
On 9/8/16 9:32 AM, jim bell wrote:
 
  
I didn't comment about it.  The Purge movies always remind me of AP.  Not the 
same, but related.
 http://www.thepurgemovie.co.uk/
 
 >My preference is to consider ideas that are likely to improve things.  AP 
 >doesn't seem promising, although good to keep in mind. 
  >>That's a rather weak answer.  Why is AP unlikely to improve things?  Some 
people have said it will work "too well".  Be specific.  What do >>you say are 
its faults?  Will it get rid of governments?  Will it defend libertarian or 
anarchic regions?   

 
>Ruining the confidence, sense of safety, and decorum is no small thing.

I assume you're saying that AP would 'ruin the confidence, sense of safety, and 
decorum' of the world.Needless to say, I disagree.  Consider a statistic that 
in the 20th century, about 240 million people were killed by government 
action.Do you call that compatible with 'confidence, sense of safety, and 
decorum'?  If you have no solution to that, what is your point?

>  The whole dynamic of society would have to change.
Duh!!!   So, you're still in love with the way things happen now?   In Part 2 
of AP, I wrote:
"Just how would this change politics in America? It would take far less time to 
answer, "What would remain the same?" No longer would we be electing people who 
will turn around and tax us to death, regulate us to death, or for that matter 
sent hired thugs to kill us when we oppose their wishes.  No military?   One of 
the attractive potential implications of such a system would be that we might 
not even need a military to protect the country. Any threatening or abusive 
foreign leader would be subject to the same contribution/assassination/reward 
system, and it would operate just as effectively over borders as it does 
domestically."
Please try to make the case that the present world, with ALL its faults, would 
be better than an AP world.

>  Hard to see how that would work.
How long have you been thinking about it?  I have been thinking about it for 
21.5 years. 

>  One of my views of much of the past is that most people in most populations 
> were repeatedly traumatized.
And frequently, they were 'traumatized' due to government actions.  

>      Watching people being drawn and quartered in England tends not to 
> produce a caring, cooperative, civic minded, progressive population.
What does that have to do with anything relevant here?
 
 

 
 
>>>A system where anyone can be targeted for any reason will cause fear, 
>>>certainty seeking, last resort alliance building, fatalist resignation and 
cynicism in the general population, and similar to spiral out of control.  
  >>Imagine you're living in a different country, with no 2nd Amendment.  
Nobody can own guns, at least not legally.   Now imagine somebody advocates 
allowing >>'anyone' to walk into a gun store, buy a gun and ammunition.   
Somebody else points out that if a person can buy a gun, he can walk out of the 
store, load the >>gun, and shoot to death anyone he sees on the street.  Does 
that circumstance justify not changing the laws to what we have in America, 
today?  I say, "no". >> The mere existence of a possible negative scenario 
doesn't mean that such rights shouldn't exist.   
 >Different situation.  Why was vigilantism weeded out in the US?
Why is vigiliantism relevant here?
>The Second Amendment is sort of a license to kill about 1 other person or so, 
>if you're willing to trade your life to do so.
The First Amendment is a license to speak lies, if you choose to do so.  Is 
that really a problem?
 
 
   
  
  >>>                     Groups will develop feudal protection rackets, clans, 
private protection details, and events, mistakes or not, will trigger a cascade 
of blood feuds. 
  >>Why will they need that?  Will they do any good?  

>To gain more peace of mind.  Doesn't matter.
Why do you think the advent of AP won't give them "peace of mind".  Some people 
agree that it will produce a VERY peaceful, POLITE society.  I've long claimed 
that a well-functioning AP system will totally eliminate wars, by supplanting 
them.  That will give plenty of "peace of mind".
 

>>>I haven't analyzed it thoroughly, at a glance it seems that kind of negative 
>>>dynamic, regardless of actual risk, will sour the whole society. 
  >>That's the problem.  You haven't thought about it, and certainly not 
sufficiently.

 
>I've analyzed it more than the general population.  They're going to be the 
>ones reacting.  I'm fairly certain the blow back would be worse than any 
>benefit.  But I'll read your proposal more closely.
Individually, their reactions are irrelevant.  That, hypothetically, 50% of the 
population might not actively employ the AP system, doesn't impact its function 
appreciably.  
                      Jim Bell



  
   
 
  

Re: Fwd: living under algorithmic governance

[Cecilia Tanaka]

About the same subject.

Mark Zuckerberg accused of abusing power after Facebook deletes 'napalm
girl' post

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/08/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-napalm-girl-photo-vietnam-war

sea sea
--
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it."

Re: Philosophokiddies

[Cypher Piggie]

> Why was vigilantism weeded out in the US?

juans mom shoulda weeded that US Citizen ragebaby out to dumpster before
become TROLL but her crackho ass was too high to know better

Re: Fwd: living under algorithmic governance

[Cypher Piggie]

> "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
> to
> say it."

rught u porkeater

> First you create rules that don’t
> distinguish between child pornography and famous war photographs.

u know what rules juan has about this porn

> Then
> you practice these rules

and what practice

> without allowing space

and what full media

> for good judgement.

brainwasher to suit his gross sefl

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

[Georgi Guninski]

On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 03:33:14PM -, Cypher Piggie wrote:
> no you stopped reading it because cocksuckers trolls like juan and
> zenan the baby filling it up wit jizz
> and technically mr cia smart guy if u stopped reading it u wouldnt have
> seen the msg u replied to so ur still here reading it
>

lol, I think Piggie has great points here. r'lly.
if you want usable list, consider some self-moderation, like not
replying to all posts of what you think are
opponents/trolls/scumbag-cunts. think about everyone replying to
everyone in every thread.
 

Re: My obsession with pigs [was: Re: Your obsession with Juan]

[Cypher Piggie]

ur stupid mofo u block entire anon email svcs then ur the one making them
less useful.
what u need do is block TROLLS FROM USA like juan

all u sea is juan dodging that so u getting good value from the svc
dumbass

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

[Cypher Piggie]

no you stopped reading it because cocksuckers trolls like juan and
zenan the baby filling it up wit jizz
and technically mr cia smart guy if u stopped reading it u wouldnt have
seen the msg u replied to so ur still here reading it

> I have stopped reading this list for one reason: the number of messages.

Re: My obsession with pigs [was: Re: Your obsession with Juan]

[Razer]

On 09/08/2016 11:35 PM, Bastiani Fortress wrote:
> You are aware that, that a list is not moderated does not mean people
> cannot personally block you from their mail preferences, right?
> 
> 5:01 AM, September 9, 2016, Cypher Piggie :
> 
>  Fritz Wuehler
>  Juan. He's an asshole
> 
> 
> yes he's an asshole. and a troll. and a USA loving US citizen.
> 
>


I just spamcan all mail2tor at the server. No one I'd care to converse
with uses it anyway. Spamming it prolly doesn't do anything as the
originating IP is unknown, but it feels good. Yeah yeah. I know.
That's part of PorkTroller's gig, to make mail2tor a little less useful
for everyone else, but nevertheless.

Rr

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

[Razer]

On 09/08/2016 11:42 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
> 
> And why do you think it was unfair?


Simply? Because you don't have the vaguest fucking idea where I've been
or what I know. Troll.

Rr

"You are a liar. Which way did you
 go? By what rivers? By what lakes? Who went with you?
 Give him to us and we promise you he
 shall never lie again." [Tessouat, Ottawa chief, to Samuel
 Champlain at Muskrat Lake, spring of
 1613]

Re: Pork Rind Disco

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Err...  It was only a joke with food, uff...  :-/

I am vegetarian since my 17 years old and was vegan for one year and some
months.  Gave up of veganism, I admiss, but great part of my recipes are
still vegan and my ex gave me the "Veganomicon" book as gift years ago.
So, my Cthulhu is vegan, don't worry!  :D

God, it's pretty disgusting when someone says that I am making "rape
apology", but it's very, very ridiculous when someone says that I am making
"saturated fats apology"!  :(

sea sea
--
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it."
On Sep 9, 2016 10:34 AM, "DillPickles"  wrote:

> Chicharones.
>
> > Cecilia Tanaka:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torresmo
>
> Statement from link:
>
> "In many ancient cultures, animal fats were the only way of obtaining oil
> for cooking and it was common in many people's diet until the industrial
> revolution made vegetable oils more common and more affordable."
>
> + "Vegetable" oil is not from vegetables but from grain (grass seed).
>
> + Unsaturated fats oxidize (rancidify) in the body, causing inflammation.
>   - Polyunsaturated fats (fish & seed) oxidize more.
>   - Monounsaturated fats (avocado & olive) oxidize less.
>
> + Saturated fats (coconut & bacon) drive serum cholesterol levels.
>
> + Cholesterol is needed to produce steroidal hormones to keep you alive
> and functioning.
>
> WTF, since we be made from monounsaturated and saturated fats?
>
> Eat avocado on your sprouted whole grain sourdough BLT, fuckers.
>
> An unhealthful and unhappy cpunk is a useless one.
>
> Dill Pickles.
>
>

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

[oshwm]

But didnt you just add to that number :D

On 9 September 2016 13:03:09 GMT+01:00, d...@geer.org wrote:
>I have stopped reading this list for one reason: the number of
>messages.
>
>Arrivederci

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

[dan]

I have stopped reading this list for one reason: the number of messages.

Arrivederci

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

[John Newman]

> On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:50 AM, Stephen D. Williams  wrote:
> 
>> On 9/2/16 12:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:36:43PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
 will work to sync up the archives so that the split brain we've been
>>> Don't taint the provenance... just as your archive contains only yours,
>>> this file should only contain messages from newby's server:
>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks.mbox/cypherpunks.mbox.gz
>>> 
>>> You can host your own archives wherever, and people will pick them up
>>> and re-host them wherever.
>>> 
>>> You can blend the html index if you want, because it's just a human
>>> interface, not a critical source archive.
>>> 
>>> People...
>>> Don't use procmail, it sucks. Maildrop is better.
>>> Don't use mbox, it sucks. Maildir is better.
> 
> I still use procmail, a bit, but I don't have a strong opinion there.
> 
> I always use mbox format.  I find it very scalable, although I do roll over 
> to new files every 200MB.  Dovecot indexes so well that I'm pretty sure 
> it is faster.  Plus, it is likely much faster for backups etc.
> 

Depends on how fast your filesystem is. I've definitely seen some slw load 
times in mutt with either format (header cache in mutt helps immensely).  I'm 
using maildir at the moment and about a half dozen different mail clients 
depending on which device is at hand, and performance is acceptable on 
directories with 3-4K messages.

I stopped using procmail a while back - I like imapfilter. The config file is 
just lua code. It does require an active connection to your imap server of 
course  The real hassle for me these days is my spamassassin + amavis + 
clamd has stopped working nearly as well as it used too.  But I've been feeding 
the fuck out of the Bayesian dbs, and tuning a few rules, and it's getting back 
under control...


John
>> It's all good. Thanks for the maildrop hint. I'll use Maildir when I'm
>> up to speed with notmuch, but not before - Maildirs are too slow
>> otherwise for me.
>> 
>> Finally - can the new cpunks admin please add a standard
>> subscribe/unsubscribe footer? I referred a friend and they got a
>> rejection on subscription request, so I'm thinking they might have tried
>> using the old domain. Sent them the new mailman url.
> 
> sdw
> 

Fwd: living under algorithmic governance

[Cecilia Tanaka]

Interesting point of view...  :)

sea sea
--
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
say it."
-- Forwarded message --
From: "Felix Stalder" 
Date: Sep 9, 2016 5:35 AM
Subject:  living under algorithmic governance
To: 


"Listen, Mark, this is serious. First you create rules that don’t
distinguish between child pornography and famous war photographs. Then
you practice these rules without allowing space for good judgement.
Finally you even censor criticism against and a discussion about the
decision – and you punish the person who dares to voice criticism.

<...>

To be honest, I have no illusions that you will read this letter.
The reason why I will still make this attempt, is that I am upset,
disappointed – well, in fact even afraid [...]."

http://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/kommentar/Dear-Mark-I-am-writing-th
is-to-inform-you-that-I-shall-not-comply-with-your-requirement-to-remo
ve-this-picture-604156b.html


This is from a recent open letter to FB's Mark Zuckerberg by Espen
Egil Hansen, editor-in-chief of Aftenposten, Norwegian largest daily
newspaper. The context is an article about a chain of events that
Hansen describes as follows:

"A few weeks ago the Norwegian author Tom Egeland posted an entry on
Facebook about, and including, seven photographs that changed the
history of warfare. You in turn removed the picture of a naked Kim
Phuc, fleeing from the napalm bombs – one of the world’s most
famous war photographs.

Tom then rendered Kim Phuc’s criticism against Facebook for banning
her picture. Facebook reacted by excluding Tom and prevented him from
posting a new entry."

Aftenpost article about all of this was, naturally, illustrated
with said picture. Facebook demanded with standard form-letter than
Aftenpost delete the picture and when didn't comply, FB deleted the
entire article after less than a day.

The point I want make is not how the traditional media have become
depended on FB and how this is now going to bite them. That's obvious.

What struck me more was the pithy description of the experience of
living under algorithmic governance: opaque and arbitrary rules, which
produce absurd effects, but, from the point of view of the governing
entity, this much less important than the fact that these rules scale
well. The absurdity of the results comes from the application of the
rules without consideration of the ambiguities and constant negations
that make up daily life and that are, in fact, an important basis
for freedom. If rules aren't acknowledged as unambiguous there is no
legitimate ground for complying with the rules in more than one way.

The second point is the experience of the enormity of the distance
between those who govern and those who are governed. This open letter
is like burning incense in a temple to placate angry gods. And
remember, this how it feels to a bona-fide member of the national
elite in a wealthy country. I presume the other 99.999% of FB users
wouldn't even bother to complain





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Re: Your obsession with Juan

[Bastiani Fortress]

You are aware that, that a list is not moderated does not mean people cannot personally block you from their mail preferences, right?5:01 AM, September 9, 2016, Cypher Piggie : Fritz Wuehler Juan. He's an assholeyes he's an asshole. and a troll. and a USA loving US citizen.-- You’re not from the Castle, you’re not from the village, you are nothing. Unfortunately, though, you are something, a stranger.

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent

[Stephen D. Williams]

On 9/8/16 7:17 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> On 09/08/2016 10:03 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> > On 09/08/2016 07:39 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
> >> On 09/05/2016 12:15 PM, Александр wrote:
>
>
> >> Well that's odd.  I wonder what it's about?  Splitting the list
> >> into what?  Two with different themes?  One Moderated and one
> >> Unmoderated?
>
> > There are many lists out there for stuff that Александр and Zenaan
> > are posting. It's not that cypherpunk is apolitical. Rather, it's
> > that stuff which simply bashes one side or the other, but has no
> > particular connection to crypto and its social/economic/political
> > role/potential is just plainly off-topic.
>
> Sounds right to me.
+1
>
> - From my own posting history it's clear that I don't mind pushing
> content that addresses the methods of practical politics, and some of
> the theory behind same.  The connection of this to crypto etc. is that
> it illustrates contexts in which crypto (and by extension pretty much
> all network security considerations) can be productively used to
> support political means and ends.  Hence relevant to threat models,
> product designs, education and support activities for crypto-centric
> applications.
>
> So far I'm not getting flamed for that.
+1
>
> >> If the latter, that's a perilous course.  One sees a lot of
> >> "twin" lists and such that are one sterile and stereotyped, the
> >> other totally overrun with tards.  Because once upon a time, half
> >> or more of the people on the original list who took an interest
> >> in keeping it alive /without/ censorship bailed, and those who
> >> stayed behind were gradually overwhelmed.
>
> > There's no need to do anything with the cypherpunks list. If
> > people object to off-topic crap, they can say so. If people object
> > to being criticized for posting off-topic crap, they can deal with
> > it or leave. That's just how unmoderated lists work.
>
> Also sounds right to me.  Don't let's pretend we can't do it - some of
> the subscribers on this list are veterans of USENET.

Yes, for years, especially early on before the Web.  I setup and ran uucp links 
for email too.  I even engineered a satellite
uplink/downlink over satellite channels normally used for fax transmission.  
LIG stands for "The Local Internet Gateway" company.

>
> "Cypherpunks of the world unite - You have nothing to lose but your
> barbed wire!"
>
> ;o)
>

sdw

Re: New list confirmation (Re: cpunks list relocation imminent (was: Re: moving on))

[Stephen D. Williams]

On 9/2/16 12:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:36:43PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
>>> will work to sync up the archives so that the split brain we've been
>> Don't taint the provenance... just as your archive contains only yours,
>> this file should only contain messages from newby's server:
>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks.mbox/cypherpunks.mbox.gz
>>
>> You can host your own archives wherever, and people will pick them up
>> and re-host them wherever.
>>
>> You can blend the html index if you want, because it's just a human
>> interface, not a critical source archive.
>>
>> People...
>> Don't use procmail, it sucks. Maildrop is better.
>> Don't use mbox, it sucks. Maildir is better.

I still use procmail, a bit, but I don't have a strong opinion there.

I always use mbox format.  I find it very scalable, although I do roll over to 
new files every 200MB.  Dovecot indexes so well that
I'm pretty sure it is faster.  Plus, it is likely much faster for backups etc.

> It's all good. Thanks for the maildrop hint. I'll use Maildir when I'm
> up to speed with notmuch, but not before - Maildirs are too slow
> otherwise for me.
>
> Finally - can the new cpunks admin please add a standard
> subscribe/unsubscribe footer? I referred a friend and they got a
> rejection on subscription request, so I'm thinking they might have tried
> using the old domain. Sent them the new mailman url.

sdw

Re: WaveNet: A Generative Model for Raw Audio

[Mirimir]

On 09/09/2016 01:14 AM, grarpamp wrote:
> https://deepmind.com/blog/wavenet-generative-model-raw-audio/
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12455510

Oh well. As erichocean noted, "I give us 10-15 years before it's not
possible to trust anything you see or hear that's recorded." Also
anything transmitted from one place to another. So it goes.

WaveNet: A Generative Model for Raw Audio

[grarpamp]

https://deepmind.com/blog/wavenet-generative-model-raw-audio/
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12455510

Re: Cypherpunks Charter

[Stephen D. Williams]

On 9/8/16 6:49 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Stephen, a hint: when real men realise they have ridiculed someone
> unfairly, for example with shit like this:
>
>>> Do you suffer from some version of, as my friend used to say, "post
>>> 1960's perception disorder"?

You think that qualifies as ridicule?  I should introduce you to my ex-wife.  
You wouldn't last five minutes.

And why do you think it was unfair?

> they apologise.
>
> Power tripping pricks, CIA shills, wanna be list censors and trolls in
> general, strangely find doing so "really difficult".
>
> But the heart maketh the man as they say..
>

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 07:06:54PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 01:05:00PM -0700, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
>>> On 9/5/16 12:44 PM, Razer wrote:
 On 09/05/2016 12:21 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
> Regardless of what Tim may or may not have wanted to happen in some or
> all cases, it doesn't say it in his signature, or in the manifesto.
 He's saying it with his LIFE dude. Maybe you need to get one too?
>>> Do you think that you are clearly communicating?
>>>
>>> Do you suffer from some version of, as my friend used to say, "post
>>> 1960's perception disorder"?
>> When widicule won't work, (attempt to) hibwow your opponent!
>>
>> Oh, wait, hah! that's just more widicule! Who woulda thunked it from
>> Stephen De Widicurler? :D
>>
>> May be one to add to the Troll Tools COINTELPRO list :)
>>
>>
 Ps. I've met Tim in passing over my 40 year residence in the area. Never
 even knew of his significance you know?

 I don't know if you've ever been to Corralitos, so I'll tell you EXACTLY
 WHY he's "gone all hermit with a gun". When he moved up there it was
 outlaw land in Santa Cruz County. Gravel roads, NO BEEMERS, they didn't
 want to chip their car's paint and gravel is rough on suspension parts
 et al. Pot growers everywhere. Last Chance Road, north of Santa Cruz was
 another such place. Above Boulder Creek ditto. The office crowd didn't
 want to live up some slightly improved logging road.

 Fast forward 2 or 3 decades of unchecked gentrification in the Santa
 Cruz mountains. Now he's surrounded... by people just... like... you.
 That's why he owns a gun.
>>> So, he's afraid of being taken down by gentrifying suburban development?  
>>> Soccer moms in expensive cars?  Surfers with nice
>>> driveways?  In Santa Cruz?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure I can take any more of this "EXACTLY WHY" "clear" 
>>> communication today.  I'd like to do something useful with my time.
>> Hmm, like overthrow your criminal government ... oh wait, that's wight,
>> you work for Da Man!
>>
>>
>> All praise! Stephen Dee Widdle!
>>
>>
 Rr
>>> sdw

sdw