Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 02:22:16 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: >> The fact that ignoring it leads to nonsense is good enough >> proof. But if you don't like that proof, so-fucking-what. The >> 'law' remains valid. > > Only according to your opinion, and the opinion of the

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> > So "being attacked by the US nazis is an axiom" - But it's not > provable nor disprobable. So how do they know it will happen? They don't KNOW. They suspect. Like you suspect the law of non-contradiction is absolutely, always, in all cases, true. They can't prove it, or disprove

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Thu, 6 Oct 2016 00:45:55 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> But, since you're familiar with reductio ad absurdum, perhaps you'd > >> also like to read up on examples of ad hominems as well. > > > > > > As used as a colloquial (and snobbish) synonym for insult? > > It's not the same

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> On Oct 5, 2016 9:16 PM, "Razer" wrote: > Razer is correct. Unicorns do exist. Now Juan probably will say that > Nyan Cats don't exist, hunfs! ;P I unicorn is just a horny horse, and a pegasus is just a horse high on dope. Rather elementary.

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
>> But, since you're familiar with reductio ad absurdum, perhaps you'd >> also like to read up on examples of ad hominems as well. > > > As used as a colloquial (and snobbish) synonym for insult? It's > not the same thing as the 'informal fallacy' you know... I just meant that you

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 17:16:09 -0700 Razer wrote: > On 10/05/2016 04:14 PM, juan wrote: > > > Even unicorns. They exist as fantasy creatures > > Excse Me? Unicorns are real! > > They just found work and aren't hanging around the corner 'shooting > the shit' quite as often

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 22:18:19 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:04:32 - > > >> No, one simply denies them. But, even if one HAD to USE them, that > >> would not prove them. I might use several axioms to derive a > >> contradiction. > > > > So one or more of your

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:04:32 - >> No, one simply denies them. But, even if one HAD to USE them, that >> would not prove them. I might use several axioms to derive a >> contradiction. > > So one or more of your 'axioms' are not true and not really > axioms. The method is called

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 21:04:32 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > >> "AXIOM: A proposition regarded as self-evidently true, > > > > > > Axioms being self-evidently true means that if you choose to > > DENY them, you need to USE them in the denial process > > anyway, therefore proving

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-05 Thread Kindra Meow
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/06/technology/yahoo-email-tech-companies-government-investigations.html ] Yahoo was ordered last year to search incoming emails for the digital “signature” of a communications method used by a state-sponsored, foreign terrorist organization, according to a

Re: ATM fees averaging over $4.50

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/04/pf/atm-record-fees/ > > Bitcoin fees currently ranging $0.02 ~ $0.11 ... > https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Fee_Plotting_Sites > Yeah, it sucks. Some cities I visit don't have local branches for my bank, so in those cases, I take to making my max

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread juan
On Wed, 5 Oct 2016 13:37:50 - xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > Again, truth is NOT a matter of agreement. And axioms are > > not to be 'agreed' upon. Also, axioms can be proven. If axioms > > couldn't be proven then any statement based on them would > > be...unproven, meaningless,

ATM fees averaging over $4.50

2016-10-05 Thread grarpamp
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/04/pf/atm-record-fees/ Bitcoin fees currently ranging $0.02 ~ $0.11 ... https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees#Fee_Plotting_Sites

misogyny

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
I'd like to publicly apologize. It has been brought to my attention that certain comments I've made were potentially hurtful towards women. To any that I've offended, I apologize. I'll refrain from such excesses, even if they were meant only to pantomime the liberal use of "whore, bitch, cunt"

The Democratization Of Censorship

2016-10-05 Thread grarpamp
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/09/the-democratization-of-censorship/ (Notable irony in the path of layering practices, rules, security, mandates, laws, police... effectively / eventually censorship... to combat censorship.)

Re: Hillary Clinton suggested drone strike on Julian Assange in 2010

2016-10-05 Thread Razer
On 10/05/2016 12:56 AM, jim bell wrote: > http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/clinton-assange-wikileaks-drone/2016/10/04/id/751517/ > >Jim Bell > > > "Hey, this is terrific! It means we really must be on to something, if > they're trying to kill us!" >Hitchiker's Guide to the

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> On 10/05/2016 06:37 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: > > "'conjecture' or 'hypothesis', both of which connote apparently true but > not self-evident statements." > > That's what you get for using dictionaries. > > English language dictionaries also conflate "Want" with "Need". > > Apparently that

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread Razer
On 10/05/2016 06:37 AM, xorc...@sigaint.org wrote: "'conjecture' or 'hypothesis', both of which connote apparently true but not self-evident statements." That's what you get for using dictionaries. English language dictionaries also conflate "Want" with "Need". Apparently that 'disease... that

Re: [Was, and still is: yahoo sux] Security experts urge clients to stop using Yahoo Mail

2016-10-05 Thread Razer
On 10/04/2016 08:49 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > *From:* Shawn K. Quinn > > On Wed, 2016-10-05 at 02:26 +, jim bell wrote: > >>> Generally speaking, American Federal laws are not applicable outside >>> the United States (and its territories) unless the law explicitly

Re: Wikileaks says Wednesday is the End for Hillary.

2016-10-05 Thread xorcist
> Again, truth is NOT a matter of agreement. And axioms are not > to be 'agreed' upon. Also, axioms can be proven. If axioms > couldn't be proven then any statement based on them would > be...unproven, meaningless, useless, et cetera. >From the CRC Encyclopedia of

Re: Wikileaks 10th Anniversary

2016-10-05 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Oct 5, 2016 12:01 AM, "grarpamp" wrote: > > Thanks Wikileaks, Julian, leakers, et al, > for the journalism and the sunshine. > May another 10 years of secrets be set free. There are a lots of links of RT and Aljazeera, but some of their editions of Assange's talk are very

Hillary Clinton suggested drone strike on Julian Assange in 2010

2016-10-05 Thread jim bell
http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/clinton-assange-wikileaks-drone/2016/10/04/id/751517/                Jim Bell "Hey, this is terrific!  It means we really must be on to something, if they're trying to kill us!"   Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 3, part 1.     At:  9:05