Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread jim bell
From: Razer On 11/21/2016 07:35 PM, jim bell wrote: From: Razer On 11/21/2016 12:49 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: THIS! "Libertarians see absolutely nothing wrong with the very rich "gaming the system" for personal advantage in every way that

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Razer
On 11/21/2016 07:35 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > *From:* Razer > > On 11/21/2016 12:49 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: > > THIS! > "Libertarians see absolutely nothing wrong with the very rich "gaming > the system" for personal advantage in every way that having a lot of > money to

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread jim bell
From: Razer On 11/21/2016 12:49 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: THIS!"Libertarians see absolutely nothing wrong with the very rich "gaming the system" for personal advantage in every way that having a lot of money to spend makes possible. " WRONG! This libertarian, and I

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Razer
On 11/21/2016 02:39 PM, juan wrote: > Fascism is cooperation of 'private' industry and government. A > phenomenom that is obviously rampant in the US. > > Other main components of fascism are nationalism and > militarism. Obviously rampant in the US too. Another

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Razer
On 11/21/2016 12:49 PM, Steve Kinney wrote: THIS! > Libertarians see absolutely nothing wrong with the very rich "gaming > the system" for personal advantage in every way that having a lot of > money to spend makes possible. This leaves everyone else on the > losing end of every deal that was

Re: Bitcoin Unable To Provide Privacy, Attracts FED and IRS Heat, FinServices Cave Demands

2016-11-21 Thread grarpamp
On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 6:32 AM, John Newman wrote: > Gotta tumble those coins ! The degree of unlinkability achievable with bitcoin tumbling is not as high as people might think. Lots of papers on that. Plus other hurdles... - Exchanges ... logs, fees, account locking (theft) -

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread rooty
let this fucking thread die. Pay your fucking taxes like everyone else and shut the fuck up no one cares - burn your computer get new hobby it making you sick. Original Message On Nov 21, 2016, 12:41 PM, Razer wrote: On 11/21/2016 12:13 PM, jim bell wrote:

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread jim bell
From: Steve Kinney On 11/21/2016 01:11 PM, jim bell wrote: >> In the United States, 500 > billionaires presently own about 1/2 of the capital assets; > > Did they obtain them legally or illegally?  If illegally, enforce > the law.  If legally, change the laws if

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Razer
On 11/21/2016 12:13 PM, jim bell wrote: > > > *Below, I posted the entire chart on taxes collected versus position > in taxpayers.* Looks good to me if actually correct. "Tax the rich. Feed the poor. Till there are no rich no more" ~Alvin Lee, Ten Years After Next, as long as there IS

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Steven Schear
The U.S. founders were quite clear in prohibiting income-like distributive taxes. The saw the peril for what it was: a means to use to pit one group/clsss against another. Warrant Canary creator On Nov 21, 2016 8:38 AM, "jim bell" wrote: *From:* Razer

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread jim bell
From: juan On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:11:11 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: >> > Steve Kinney >> > In the United States, 500 >> > billionaires presently own about 1/2 of the capital assets; >> Did they obtain them legally or illegally?  

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread juan
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:11:11 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > > > > Steve Kinney > > In the United States, 500 > > billionaires presently own about 1/2 of the capital assets; > Did they obtain them legally or illegally?   Do you have to ask?

Re: Britain and Apple Fucking Your Privacy

2016-11-21 Thread Peter Fairbrother
On 21/11/16 15:02, Cannon wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 1. I wonder what effects this will have on encryption. Since encryption cannot be "decrypted on demand" if it is good encryption, this means that likely true encryption will be banned in UK? If you get served

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread jim bell
From: Steve Kinney On 11/21/2016 10:02 AM, Razer wrote: > On 11/20/2016 09:49 PM, jim bell wrote: >> Oh!  I see you are justifying robbing people based on the mere >> assertion that they can 'afford' it. > > >> No. I justify it on the fact that they're the criminals

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Steve Kinney
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/21/2016 10:02 AM, Razer wrote: > > > On 11/20/2016 09:49 PM, jim bell wrote: >> Oh! I see you are justifying robbing people based on the mere >> assertion that they can 'afford' it. > > > No. I justify it on the fact that they're the

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Razer
On 11/21/2016 08:35 AM, jim bell wrote: > > > *From:* Razer > On 11/20/2016 09:49 PM, jim bell wrote: >> >>Oh! I see you are justifying robbing people based on the mere >> assertion that they can 'afford' it. > >No. I justify it on the fact that they're the criminals and

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread jim bell
From: Razer On 11/20/2016 09:49 PM, jim bell wrote: >>Oh!  I see you are justifying robbing people based on the mere assertion that >>they can 'afford' it. >No. I justify it on the fact that they're the criminals and taxes >appropriately applied are really a form of

Re: Britain and Apple Fucking Your Privacy

2016-11-21 Thread Cannon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 1. I wonder what effects this will have on encryption. Since encryption cannot be "decrypted on demand" if it is good encryption, this means that likely true encryption will be banned in UK? 2. And what are the details on allowing hacking, does

Re: What % of the so-called alt-right were just plain ol' libertarians before?

2016-11-21 Thread Razer
On 11/20/2016 09:49 PM, jim bell wrote: > Oh! I see you are justifying robbing people based on the mere > assertion that they can 'afford' it. No. I justify it on the fact that they're the criminals and taxes appropriately applied are really a form of restitution. If they don't like it they

Re: NYT Edtrial: FaySpook and the 'Fake News' Digital Virus

2016-11-21 Thread Mirimir
On 11/20/2016 09:36 PM, rooty wrote: > Aff... So are you Brazilian? Or trying to look like Ceci's clone? > Original Message > On Nov 20, 2016, 7:23 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > -- ** > Lauren does it again: > > Vote 1, Lauren Weinstein for executive director of > The