Re: CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We need a more active role for governments'

2019-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 05:37:25PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/31/19 1:08 PM, jim bell wrote:
> > CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We 
> > need a more active role for governments'.
> > https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/30/mark-zuckerberg-calls-for-tighter-internet-regulations-we-need-a-more-active-role-for-governments.html
> > 
> 
> So the richest man in the world wants three things:
> 
> Stronger internet privacy laws:  Zucking Fuckerberg does not like
> competition in the consumer surveillance market.
> 
> Stronger election laws:  Less voters - through a process biased to let
> typical consumers in, screen everyone else out.
> 
> A more active role for governments:  Expand NatSec/LEA surveillance
> 'partnerships' with service providers, shift the costs of censorship
> from the private to the public sector.

And shift the "liability" for "privacy" and "data protection" to the
private sector, so the government is exonerated of its duty of care
(in context of having a government), and private sector is exonerated
for all its activities with monopoly and liablity absolving
legislation in its permanent favour.


Re: Cryptocurrency: Falkvinge Wrecks Bitcoin-BTC Again, 12 Months Later...

2019-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 06:18:37PM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 18:45:31 +
> furrier  wrote:
> 
> > Seriously, Falkvinge is annoying. Stop promoting him.
> 
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Saturday, Marchi 23, 2019 9:26 AM, grarpamp  wrote:
> > 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzaEd2RQuRw
> 
> 
>   vast majority of what falkvinge says is outright lies and propaganda. 
> And the same time falkvinge forgets to mention the problems that his own 
> altcoin(bcash) has. 
> 
>   In the case of bcash, huge blocks will lead to the system being
>   centralized and controlled by a few players at best. In the case
>   of lightning it's quite possible that the system ends up dominated
>   by a few big nodes or 'banks'. 

In the case of "Lightning" DC system, not only is it likely that the
system shall end up dominated by a few big nodes, but that is its
fundamental design and guaranteed outcome - the only real argument in
the Lightning DC system is who out of current players dominates over
the others - the Federal Reserve system banks, or the commercial
players such as Facebook, Ebay, Amazon etc...


>   But with lightning it should still be possible for smaller players
>   to provide routing. Now, if global govcorp requires their serfs to
>   get a 'banking license' to run some p2p software on their personal
>   computers, then we are obviously completely fucked and blaming the
>   victim (the LN), like falkvinge does, is pretty stupid. 

Well there's the heart of the problem.

Existing power structures self proclaim to legislate away our rights.

What do we do?


>   All in all, the 'scaling' problem in cryptocurrecies is far from being 
> solved. 
> 
>   
> 
> 


Re: Loki-network LLARP I2Pd Torrent Cryptocurrency

2019-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
>  ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 7:14 PM, grarpamp  wrote:
> 
> > https://loki.network/
> > https://github.com/majestrate/torrent.ano
> > http://anodex.oniichanylo2tsi4.onion/
> > https://i2pd.website/
> > https://github.com/loki-project/loki-network/blob/master/docs/high-level.txt
> > https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/


On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 06:42:54PM +, furrier wrote:
> Monero fork with premine, governance tax, and 50% funds lockup for 
> "market-based sybil resistance". Good luck, I'll pass.
> 
> Also, it wasn't clear from a quick look, do they utilize I2P at the 
> networking layer or did they roll out they own custom solution like Kovri?


Loki network appears to be a ground up rewrite of I2P, with an eye to
the lower latency and clear-net accessibility of Tor, with newer
(presumably better) crypto than I2P.

Appears to ignore the fundamental currently-missing feature in all
mix-/ anon-/ dark-/ onion-/ etc- nets in existence today - i.e. chaff
fill, which implies some sort of badwidth/ time reservation/ promise
between nodes, which is (re)negotiated from time to time between
nodes.

This chaff fill feature is the single currently-missing feature which
is required to begin to handle the problem of global (in a network
sense) passive adversaries, aka GPAs - i.e. the NSA, the CIA, the
FSB, etc, i.e. those well-funded entities paid for and run by
nation-state actors who generally oppress the fundamental rights of
the rest of us, such as the rights to live, trade, and move about
within our communities.


Re: Loki-network LLARP I2Pd Torrent Cryptocurrency

2019-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 02:14:03PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://loki.network/
> https://github.com/majestrate/torrent.ano
> http://anodex.oniichanylo2tsi4.onion/
> https://i2pd.website/
> https://github.com/loki-project/loki-network/blob/master/docs/high-level.txt

Jeff does not mention chaff fill.

Chaff fill should be 'acceptable' with window/ time limited bandwidth
reservations (as opposed to unlimited duration/ "permanent" bandwidth
reservation to peer P) - works even for low latency, and especially
adds some beneficial anonymity in a low latency network (even time
window bandwidth reservations feels like it "takes the sting out of"
traffic correlation attacks by global passive adversary, i.e. the
deep state NSA/ CIA/ FSB etc).

Without this fundamental enhancement to I2P, then over and above I2P
all you're adding is perhaps lower latency, perhaps better
encryption, perhaps better routing, perhaps cleaner code/ new code
base, i.e. all more or less marginal improvements over the status
quo.

Chaff fill at the network layer is the fundamental anonymity
improvement required wrt all existing *nets.

Good luck,



> https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/


laundering tax-theft shekels for your coaxial Ru-chopper job - “NASA's Mars Helicopter makes maiden flight in JPL simulator”

2019-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Classic laundering of tax dollars on so-called "research".  As
private USA corporate interests want to get back in the coaxial
helicopter game, what better way than fund your novo "catchup with
the Russkies" project than funnelling some tax theft shekels through
a something something something "NASA Mars helicopter" something...

Quadcopter or hexacopter provide greater flying redundancy and power
balancing flight modes (particularly important in extreme remote
environment as Mars), so coaxial autonomous chopper is just a fancy
way to spend (thieve) millions of sheckels.

And you prolly want a light weight fixed wing craft with variable
axis props (lift + rotate to pusher/puller) to maximise solar powered
flight time for such remote autonomous micro flying craft blah blah
blah ...

Cest la (((vie)))...



NASA's Mars Helicopter makes maiden flight in JPL simulator
https://newatlas.com/nasa-mars-helicopter-maiden-flight/59071/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaxial_rotor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Coaxial_rotor_helicopters



Cryptocurrency: Loki-network LLARP I2Pd Torrent AnonDev

2019-03-31 Thread grarpamp
On 3/31/19, furrier  wrote:
> Monero fork with

Probably the typical non fundamentally
meaningful diffs that so many hundreds
of pointless metoo and infight forks have.

Same for all the Linux distros...
it's still just Linux inside... just
different tweaks and bling. Nothing to see
move along. Until one of them hits, if ever.

> premine

Nothing but scams. Don't use if don't like it.

> governance tax

Paid version of BDFL's, dubiously decentral,
evaluate and use it or not.

It's not inconceivable that an AI could pay
on all sorts of election systems.
Or users just pay directly for what's good.

Completely anonymous darknet ongoing development
teams are also still very much an untried thing.

> 50% funds lockup for
> "market-based sybil resistance"

In a distributed system, Sybil's capabilities
go down as the number of self aware participants
actiing together in resistance goes up thus raising
the cost to prohibitive in an otherwise secure system.

A lockup / tax for early expenditure could make sense,
tapering over adoption to payout remainder to UTXO's,
but there's no Automaton Program released and
executing in any network to perform such defenses
as buying good or disabling bad nodes on its own.

So keyholding and whatever other human driven
schemes get scammy or pointless and the coins
fail when the users realize it.


Some old Satoshi theory... Longest chains resolve
all questions over time, right?


> do they utilize I2P at the
> networking layer or did they roll out they own custom solution like Kovri?

I2P, I2Pd, Kovri, Phantom, Loopix, Tor, NNTP,
ROFLcopters, whatever... just tech to see and play with.


Re: [tor-talk] tor project website change

2019-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 06:34:36PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> On 03/30/2019 01:40 PM, Punk wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 06:06:07 -0400
> > grarpamp  wrote:
> > 
> >> "
> >> DEFEND AGAINST SURVEILLANCE
> >> Tor Browser prevents someone watching your connection from knowing
> >> what websites you visit. All anyone monitoring your browsing habits
> >> can see is that you're using Tor.
> >> "
> >>
> >> This is false [1], and intentionally preloaded
> >> with [use case and definitional] weasel words [2].
> > 
> > 
> > Good to see that there's at least one voice telling the truth. 
> > 
> > On the other hand, we have Mirimir's comment
> > 
> > "Tor works well enough that implementing one of the newer designs
> > seems unlikely" 
> > 
> > 
> > LMAO Tor works 'well enough' mirimir? Well enough for whom? I do 
> > agree that tor works well enough though. It works well enough as NSA 
> > controlled opposition. Is that what you meant?
> 
> I mean "well enough" in the sense that nobody (as far as I know) has
> seriously started implementing one of the newer, and arguably better,
> anonymity systems. Such as ...
> 
> HORNET, a system that enables high-speed end-to-
> end anonymous channels by leveraging next generation network
> architectures. HORNET is designed as a low-latency onion routing
> system that operates at the network layer ...
> Chen et al. (2015)
> 
> ... or ...
> 
> Riffle, a system for bandwidth- and computation-efficient anonymous
> communication. Riffle addresses the problems of DC-Nets and verifiable
> mixnets, while offering the same level of anonymity.
> Kwon (2015)

DC-Net?

verifiable mixnet?



> Anyway, that statement doesn't represent my opinion on Tor's merits.
> It's just an observation on what's happened. Or what hasn't happened, as
> it were.


Re: CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We need a more active role for governments'

2019-03-31 Thread Steve Kinney


On 3/31/19 1:08 PM, jim bell wrote:
> CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We need 
> a more active role for governments'.
> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/30/mark-zuckerberg-calls-for-tighter-internet-regulations-we-need-a-more-active-role-for-governments.html
> 

So the richest man in the world wants three things:

Stronger internet privacy laws:  Zucking Fuckerberg does not like
competition in the consumer surveillance market.

Stronger election laws:  Less voters - through a process biased to let
typical consumers in, screen everyone else out.

A more active role for governments:  Expand NatSec/LEA surveillance
'partnerships' with service providers, shift the costs of censorship
from the private to the public sector.







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Re: Cryptocurrency: Falkvinge Wrecks Bitcoin-BTC Again, 12 Months Later...

2019-03-31 Thread furrier
Seriously, Falkvinge is annoying. Stop promoting him.


> Quantity capped fully distributed p2p transaction mineable privacy coins... 
> FTW.

Hrmm, "quantity capped" does not rhyme will Loki, in case you haven't 
noticed.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, March 23, 2019 9:26 AM, grarpamp  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzaEd2RQuRw
>
> https://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/1109145111248752642
> "If people are too poor for a full node, then they just can't use bitcoin."
>
> A collection of evidence regarding Bitcoin-BTC's takeover and problems
> https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/83vgdm/a_collection_of_evidence_regarding_bitcoins/
>
> The Real Enemies
> https://i.redd.it/d233nko2ska11.png
>
> Quantity capped fully distributed p2p transaction mineable privacy coins... 
> FTW.




Re: Loki-network LLARP I2Pd Torrent Cryptocurrency

2019-03-31 Thread furrier
Monero fork with premine, governance tax, and 50% funds lockup for 
"market-based sybil resistance". Good luck, I'll pass.

Also, it wasn't clear from a quick look, do they utilize I2P at the networking 
layer or did they roll out they own custom solution like Kovri?



‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Sunday, March 31, 2019 7:14 PM, grarpamp  wrote:

> https://loki.network/
> https://github.com/majestrate/torrent.ano
> http://anodex.oniichanylo2tsi4.onion/
> https://i2pd.website/
> https://github.com/loki-project/loki-network/blob/master/docs/high-level.txt
> https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/




Loki-network LLARP I2Pd Torrent Cryptocurrency

2019-03-31 Thread grarpamp
https://loki.network/
https://github.com/majestrate/torrent.ano
http://anodex.oniichanylo2tsi4.onion/
https://i2pd.website/
https://github.com/loki-project/loki-network/blob/master/docs/high-level.txt
https://www.reddit.com/r/i2p/


Re: CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We need a more active role for governments'

2019-03-31 Thread Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH
It's the natural reaction of all monopolists in the market they dominate.

It protects their position.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 10:08 AM jim bell  wrote:
>
> CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We need 
> a more active role for governments'.
> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/30/mark-zuckerberg-calls-for-tighter-internet-regulations-we-need-a-more-active-role-for-governments.html
>
>
>


CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We need a more active role for governments'

2019-03-31 Thread jim bell
CNBC: Zuckerberg backs stronger Internet privacy and election laws: 'We need a 
more active role for governments'.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/30/mark-zuckerberg-calls-for-tighter-internet-regulations-we-need-a-more-active-role-for-governments.html



Re: Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg admits the networking site should be regulated

2019-03-31 Thread grarpamp
On 3/30/19, jim bell  wrote:
> Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg admits the networking site should be regulated.
> https://tiny.iavian.net/s2m8

That shit and useless short url doesn't come close to how this
fucknut wants to kill free speech by calling for global government,
not least why so his cheap sellout asshole corp can stay
afloat by smearing his costs on everyone. This guy would
be a real winner on a prediction markets.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mark-zuckerberg-the-internet-needs-new-rules-lets-start-in-these-four-areas/2019/03/29/9e6f0504-521a-11e9-a3f7-78b7525a8d5f_story.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47762091