OpenFabs, OpenHW, OpenAudit - OpenPower Libre SOC Goes to Print

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
https://openpowerfoundation.org/libre-soc-180nm-power-isa-asic-submitted-to-imec-for-fabrication/

https://libre-soc.org/
http://git.libre-soc.org/
https://libre-soc.org/openpower/sv/svp64/
https://github.com/antonblanchard/microwatt/
https://openpowerfoundation.org/openpower-foundation-provides-microwatt-for-fabrication-on-skywater-open-pdk-shuttle/
https://github.com/The-OpenROAD-Project/OpenLane
http://coriolis.lip6.fr/
https://gitlab.com/Chips4Makers/c4m-pdk-freepdk45
https://chips4makers.io/
https://www.ngi.eu/ngi-projects/ngi-pointer/
https://openpower.foundation/groups/isa/


ProTip: Doesn't matter how your OpenHW is, unless you're
printing it in an #OpenFab operating under an #OpenAudit
environment whatever comes off the line is still untrustable.


"We're building a chip. A fast chip. A safe chip. A trusted chip,"
explains the web page at Libre-SOC.org. "A chip with lots of
peripherals. And it's VPU. And it's a 3D GPU... Oh and here, have the
source code."

Libre-SOC's entirely Libre 180nm ASIC, which can be replicated down to
symbolic level GDS-II with no NDAs of any kind, has been submitted to
IMEC for fabrication.

It is the first wholly-independent Power ISA ASIC outside of IBM to go
Silicon in 12 years. Microwatt went to Skywater 130nm in March;
however, it is also developed by IBM, as an exceptionally well-made
Reference Design, which Libre-SOC used for verification.

Whilst it would seem that Libre-SOC is jumping on the chip-shortage
era's innovation bandwagon, Libre-SOC has actually been in development
for over three and a half years so far. It even pre-dates the OpenLane
initiative, and has the same objectives: fully automated HDL to
GDS-II, full transparency and auditability with Libre VLSI tools
Coriolis2 and Libre Cell Libraries from Chips4Makers.

With €400,000 in funding from the NLNet Foundation [a long-standing
non-profit supporting privacy, security, and the "open internet"],
plus an application to NGI Pointer under consideration, the next steps
are to continue development of Draft Cray-style Vectors (SVP64) to the
already supercomputer-level Power ISA, under the watchful eye of the
upcoming OpenPOWER ISA Workgroup.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8664047B2/en


Re: 1984: Thread

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
WEF - You Will Own Nothing, and You WILL NOT Be Happy...

Gizmodo, Slate, and Facebook endorse your disownership and subjugation...

https://gizmodo.com/in-2030-you-wont-own-any-gadgets-1847176540
https://slate.com/technology/2016/10/will-technology-make-ownership-obsolete-a-future-tense-event-recap.html
https://www.facebook.com/worldeconomicforum/videos/10153920524981479/

"By 2030, technology will have advanced to the point that even the
idea of owning objects might be obsolete," argues a thought-provoking
new piece by Gizmodo's consumer tech reporter: Back in 2016, the World
Economic Forum released a Facebook video with eight predictions it had
for the world in 2030. "You'll own nothing. And you'll be happy," it
says. "Whatever you want, you'll rent. And it'll be delivered by
drone"

In some ways, not owning things is easier. You have fewer commitments,
less responsibility, and the freedom to bail whenever you want. There
are upsides to owning less. There's also a big problem... The reality
is when you buy a device that requires proprietary software to run,
you don't own it. The money you hand over is an entry fee, nothing
more. When everything is a lease, you also agree to a life defined by
someone else's terms... When hardware is merely a vessel for software
and not a useful thing on its own, you don't really get to decide
anything. A company will decide when to stop pushing vital updates. It
might also decide what you do with the product after it's "dead"
The power has shifted so that companies set the parameters, and
consumers have to make do with picking the lesser of several evils...

You can trace much of this back to Section 1201 of the Digital
Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), which basically makes it illegal to
circumvent "digital locks" that protect a company's proprietary
software... One day in the future, if you buy a physical house, you
will likely have to rent the software that operates it. You won't
really have a say in the updates that get pushed out, or the features
that get taken away. You'll have less of a say in when you renovate or
upgrade, even if you want to continue using the house as is. You might
not even have the right to do DIY repairs yourself. Just because
you've bought a smart washing machine, doesn't mean you'll be allowed
to repair it yourself if it breaks — or if you'll be allowed to pick
which repair shop can fix it for you. You only have to look as far as
John Deere, Apple, and General Motors. Each one of these companies has
argued that people who bought their products weren't allowed to repair
them unless they were from a pre-approved shop.

The scary thing is that only sounds terrible if you have the mental
energy to care about principles.

Making decisions all the time is difficult, and it's easier when
someone else limits the options you can choose from. It's not hard to
turn a blind eye to a problem if, for the most part, your life is made
a little simpler. Isn't that what every tech company says it's trying
to do? Make your life a little simpler? Life is hard enough already,
and living in a home that maintains itself so long as you hand over
control — well, by 2030, who's to say that's not what we'll all want?


Community Pressure

2021-07-10 Thread zeynepaydogan
I'm sick of people spying on me who aren't cypherpunk
and why are some Cypherpunk individuals silent?
Appelbaum should talk about Adrian Lamo.
People who are Cypherpunk are faced with community pressure Don't you realize? 
it's time to talk, not shut up.

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Community Pressure

2021-07-10 Thread zeynepaydogan
I'm sick of people spying on me who aren't cypherpunk
and why are some Cypherpunk individuals silent?
Appelbaum should talk about Adrian Lamo.
People who are Cypherpunk are faced with community pressure Don't you realize? 
it's time to talk, not shut up.

ProtonMail mobil ile gönderildi

Community Pressure

2021-07-10 Thread zeynepaydogan
Community Pressure

Re: Chip shortage sees smugglers cling-filming CPUs to their bodies, over $4M of parts seized | PC Gamer

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
On 7/10/21, jim bell  wrote:
> https://www.pcgamer.com/chip-shortage-sees-people-cling-filming-cpus-to-their-bodies-and-millions-of-dollars-worth-of-components-seized/

Nowhere does it say the material was stolen from anyone.
Thus a fine free market solution to a supply and demand problem.
Unfortunately the State thinks that literally robbing people
at gunpoint on the highway, then kidnapping them into a further
lifetime of slavery in fines and prison... is an ok thing to do.

Aren't cypherpunks supposed to be doing something about that?


Re: US pledge that Julian Assange could serve any jail sentence in Australia is ‘grossly misleading’, partner says | Julian Assange | The Guardian

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
> https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/10/us-pledge-that-julian-assange-could-serve-any-jail-sentence-in-australia-is-grossly-misleading-partner-says

The US will say whatever it can get away with while still
leaving enough ways to fuck Assange, just as it has been
trying to do since day one. History shows time and again that
State's only place for those who embarass, truth, and speak
against it are disappeared down a quiet prison hole, or dead.
McAfee a recent example of that convenient silencing game.

The tide must begin to shift...
#FreeAssange
https://twitter.com/DEAcampaign


US pledge that Julian Assange could serve any jail sentence in
Australia is ‘grossly misleading’, partner says

In the event Assange is convicted, any transfer would need to be
approved by the Australian government

Stella Moris says the US undertakings are ‘not worth the paper they
are written on’ because Julian Assange already holds the right to
apply to serve any sentence in Australia.

US government undertakings that Julian Assange could serve any prison
sentence in Australia were “grossly misleading”, his fiance has said,
and “a formula to keep Julian in prison effectively for the rest of
his life”.

The US government is attempting to extradite Assange from the UK and
put him on trial in the US for allegedly violating the Espionage Act
by publishing classified information through WikiLeaks. He faces up to
175 years in prison if convicted.

But the US government lost its extradition application in January,
when judge Vanessa Baraitser ruled Assange could not be extradited
because of concerns over his mental health and risk of suicide in a US
prison.

On Wednesday, the UK high court allowed the US government to appeal
that decision, on limited grounds.

Stella Moris said the US undertakings were “not worth the paper they
are written on” because Assange already held the right to apply to
serve any sentence in Australia.

“What is crucial to understand is that prisoner transfers are eligible
only after all appeals have been exhausted. For the case to reach the
US supreme court [it] could easily take a decade, even two. What the
US is proposing is a formula to keep Julian in prison effectively for
the rest of his life.

“Julian would remain in a US prison under atrocious, solitary
confinement conditions that the magistrate’s court said would end his
life,” Moris said in a subsequent statement.

Julian Assange's fiancée Stella Moris @StellaMoris1: "Reports
about US 'undertakings' are misleading and worryingly uncritical.
Let's not forget what this is all about: Journalism Is Not A Crime!"
#DontExtraditeAssange #DropTheCharges #FreeAssange
pic.twitter.com/CuHKfsZvPt
— Don't Extradite Assange (@DEAcampaign) July 8, 2021

A spokesperson for the Australian attorney general’s department
confirmed Assange, as an Australian citizen, would have the right to
apply to serve his sentence in Australia if convicted and sentenced to
prison in the US, but that no transfer could be agreed before legal
avenues were exhausted.

“International prisoner transfers to Australia are initiated by an
application from a prisoner after the prisoner has been convicted and
sentenced,” the spokesperson said.

“If the Australian government received an application for the transfer
of a prisoner from the US, it would consider the application at that
time in accordance with Australia’s legal framework.”

In the event that Assange was convicted and applied to come to
Australia, his transfer would need the consent of the Australian
government, and of the state or territory government where he would be
imprisoned.

Any transfer would also need the consent of the US government. In a
suite of “assurances” provided to the UK high court, the US government
said it “hereby agrees to consent to the transfer”.

Other assurances offered include that the US would not impose Special
Administrative Measures (SAMs) – such as solitary confinement – on
Assange, and that he would not be jailed at the “supermax” prison in
Florence, Colorado. However, the US retained the caveat it could
renege on those promises: “the US retains the power to impose SAMs on
Mr Assange in the event that … he was to commit any future act that
met the test to the imposition of a SAM”.

Assange turned 50 behind bars at Belmarsh prison earlier this month.

Moris visited him, accompanied by their four-year-old son, after the
high court’s decision to allow the US appeal.

“Julian is very unwell,” Moris said after visiting. “Belmarsh prison
is a horrible, horrible, place. Just yesterday, another prisoner was
found dead in his cell. The suicide rate is three times higher than in
other UK prisons. It’s a daily struggle.

“He won his case in January. Why is he even in prison? Why is he even
being prosecuted? There is no legal case against him. All there is is
an indictment based on lies.”

The Australian parliamentary friends of the Bring Julian Assange Home
group has consistently called on the US 

Re: USA 2020 Elections: Thread

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
> Dem Left hypocrisy not gone unnoticed by the ranks...
>
> Defiant US Soldiers Openly Questioning Why BLM Riots Weren't Treated
> Like Capitol 'Insurrection'


Federal Government Paying $6.1 Million To Create Database For Capitol
Riot Prosecutions

But not paying anything to equally prosecute Summer 2020 Murderers
Thugs Rioters Damagers Thieves Trespassers BLM+Antifa Etc.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/federal-government-paying-6-1-million-to-create-database-for-capitol-riot-prosecutions_389.html

The Department of Justice has committed to paying over $6 million to a
multinational firm to create a database to host the reams of data
prosecutors are gathering in cases against accused participants of the
Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.

Deloitte Financial Advisory Services, LLP was contracted in late May
to help develop the database and the government has started
transferring a large volume of materials, including tens of thousands
of records from the U.S. Capitol Police, prosecutors said in a court
filing this week.

“Following the Capitol Breach, the United States recognized that
due to the nature and volume of materials being collected, the
government would require the use of an outside contractor who could
provide litigation technology support services to include highly
technical and specialized data and document processing and review
capabilities,” prosecutors wrote in the filing, which was submitted in
a case against several accused Capitol rioters.

The government will work with Deloitte to process, review, and produce
material related to the breach, using various tools to redact certain
personal information.

Prosecutors expect the database to be available for use in the near future.

“Once it is, the government will begin systematically reviewing
materials for potentially discoverable information, tagging when
possible (e.g., video by a location or type of conduct, tips by a type
of allegation), and redacting when necessary,” prosecutors wrote.

Deloitte did not return a request for comment.

The firm, which was listed as having a Virginia address, was awarded
$6.1 million by the Department of Justice for “automated litigation
support services,” according to a database holding government
contracts.

That figure could swell to $25.9 million, according to the database
listing, which was reviewed by The Epoch Times.

The start date of the contract was June 1. The current end date is May
31, 2022. A potential end date was listed as May 31, 2027.

The existence of the database was first reported by Politico.

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) on Friday said the development signaled
that U.S. prosecutors are focused only on prosecuting cases related to
the breach.

“The DOJ is going to spend $6.1 million on a January 6 database.
Where is the ANTIFA database? Where is the BLM database? It’s as if
the DOJ has given up on all investigations other than January 6,” she
wrote on Twitter.

Antifa is a far-left, anarcho-communist network that has perpetrated
violence across the United States, primarily in the Pacific Northwest.
BLM refers to Black Lives Matter, a movement that alleges minorities
are systematically treated unjustly by law enforcement, among other
claims. DOJ stands for the Department of Justice, which did not return
a request for comment.

Protesters are seen inside the U.S. Capitol in Washington on Jan. 6,
2021. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)

More than 535 people have been charged as of July 6 with crimes
related to the breach, including 165 for assaulting, resisting, or
impeding officers or employees, according to the DOJ.

FBI agents are still seeking assistance identifying another 300 or so
persons accused of participating in the tumult on Jan. 6.

The Federal Public Defender’s Office (FPD), meanwhile, is also mulling
putting in place multiple databases to help with the defense of
accused riot participants, prosecutors also said.

“Given the volume of information that may be discoverable, FPD is
carefully examining options for accepting materials. We understand
that FPD is considering contracting with a vendor to establish
databases that can be used to receive and perform technical searches
upon discoverable materials. The government’s discovery team is in the
process of identifying the scope and size of materials that may be
turned over to FPD with as much detail as possible, so that FPD can
obtain accurate quotes from potential database vendors,” they wrote in
the new filing.

“It is hoped that this database will be used by FPD offices nationwide
that are working on Capitol Breach cases and counsel that are
appointed under the Criminal Justice Act. We believe that a database
will be the most organized and economical way of ensuring that all
counsel can obtain access to, and conduct meaningful searches upon,
relevant voluminous materials, e.g., thousands of hours of body worn
camera and Capitol CCTV footage, and tens of thousands of documents,
including the results of thousands of 

Re: USA 2020 Elections: Thread

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
Donald J Trump won the 2020 US Presidential Election.



Darryl Cooper: Why Trump Supporters Are Pissed Off And Don't Trust Anything

As the ruling class went to absurd lengths to try and dismantle Donald
Trump, pissed off supporters watched in horror as a captured media
peddled lie after lie - typically based on anonymous leaks from deep
state bureaucrats, and as  powerful agents within America's
intelligence apparatus falsified evidence and collaborated with
foreign operatives paid by Trump's political opponents.

In doing so, they exposed themselves to anyone not already paying attention.

Darryl Cooper, aka @MartyrMade, has assembled what might be the most
accurate summation of why Trump supporters - the vast majority of
conservatives - are livid after the past five years. Cooper, a
researcher and writer, is the co-host of The Unraveling Podcast with
retired US Navy SEAL commander Jocko Willink, and has hosted several
deep-dive podcasts on a number of topics.

Read below:

Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight
ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them
is that, while they'll defend those positions w/info they got from
Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they're not particularly attached to
them. 2/x
— MartyrMade (@martyrmade) July 8, 2021

Here are the facts - actual, confirmed facts - that shape their
perspective: 1) The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using
evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all
involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan's July 2016 memo,
etc). These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a
pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes
in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign
using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them.

Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could.
We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of
a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we
have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew. This was true
with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff - who were on TV
saying they'd seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while
admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn't - all the
way down the line. In the end we learned that it was ALL fake.

At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion,
because every media & intel agency wouldn't make it up out of nothing.
When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a
reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov't when it didn't
happen. We know as fact: a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence
used to justify spying on the Trump campaign, b) The FBI knew the
Steele dossier was a DNC op, c) Steele's source told the FBI the info
was unserious, d) they did not inform the court of any of this and
kept spying.

Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went
from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be
fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution -
agencies, the press, Congress, academia - gaslit them for another
year. Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in
the administration. They knew their entire lives would be
investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal
fees. The DoJ, press, & gov't destroyed lives and actively subverted
an elected admin.

This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a
naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the
outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because
it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper. GOP
propaganda still has many of them thinking in terms of partisan
binaries, but A LOT of Trump supporters see that the Regime is not
partisan. They all know that the same institutions would have taken
opposite sides if it was a Tulsi Gabbard vs Jeb Bush election.

It's hard to describe to people on the left (who are used to thinking
of gov't as a conspiracy... Watergate, COINTELPRO, WMD, etc) how
shocking & disillusioning this was for people who encourage their sons
to enlist in the Army, and hate ppl who don't stand for the Anthem.
They could have managed the shock if it only involved the government.
But the behavior of the corporate press is really what radicalized
them. They hate journalists more than they hate any politician or
gov't official, because they feel most betrayed by them. The idea that
the press is driven by ratings/sensationalism became untenable. If
that were true, they'd be all over the Epstein story. The corporate
press is the propaganda arm of the Regime they now see in outline.
Nothing anyone says will ever make them unsee that, period.

This is profoundly disorienting. Many of them don't know for certain
whether ballots were faked in November 2020, but they know for

Chip shortage sees smugglers cling-filming CPUs to their bodies, over $4M of parts seized | PC Gamer

2021-07-10 Thread jim bell
https://www.pcgamer.com/chip-shortage-sees-people-cling-filming-cpus-to-their-bodies-and-millions-of-dollars-worth-of-components-seized/


US pledge that Julian Assange could serve any jail sentence in Australia is ‘grossly misleading’, partner says | Julian Assange | The Guardian

2021-07-10 Thread jim bell
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/10/us-pledge-that-julian-assange-could-serve-any-jail-sentence-in-australia-is-grossly-misleading-partner-says


Exbibyte frenzy: How mining for Chia crypto turned me into a storage junkie | ZDNet

2021-07-10 Thread jim bell
https://www.zdnet.com/article/exbibyte-frenzy-how-mining-for-chia-crypto-turned-me-into-a-storage-junkie/


Anarchists don't respect free-speech of known fascists

2021-07-10 Thread professor rat
Anarchists in general and crypto-anarchists in particular are under ZERO 
obligation to respect the free-speech of any known fascist morons.  

This also applies to all their human-and-civil rights including privacy.

Anarchists can DOX fascists - we can DDoS fascists and we can DESTROY fascists.

Thank you Jake Appelbaum for confirming Tim May types are all fascists.

They can join Mongo in his crypt. Also those who quack like Nazi's and waddle 
like Nazi's

 ( Batshit and JYA types ) may be shot like Nazi's. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED.


Cypherpunks as victims bs

2021-07-10 Thread professor rat
"...And what since then is now the compendium of vision of future,
what should it be about...?
Digtal Utopias, Prediction Markets, Private Cryptocurrency, CrowdFunding,
Cornucopias full of unstoppable P2P apps for all, SeaSteads FarmLands,
Peace Love Liberty and Freedom from Force for Everyone in your Lifetime? ..."

Clap hands if you believe in Randite, Paultard, Austro-Libertarian FAIRIES.

Gasbagging, timewasting chickenshit pinheads - like you Gramps - and your Nazi 
Fag Moron BFFS, Semich and Batshit - try and drag cypherpunks back to the 
Mongoloid Dark Ages  - but the crypto-anarchist future keeps happening.  Youse 
keep losing. 

Btw - Phil Zimmerman disassociated himself from the Mongoloids. You 
obscurantist morons can't lie straight in bed.  Fuck your crude noise 
disinformation hustle , fuck your moron friends here and FUCK YOU.

When I catch up with you YOU'RE DEAD.


Cryptocurrency: The Great Reset - Fire vs EMP vs VaultHSM vs CounterParty vs ...

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
Quite astounding the tens to hundreds of $Billions that
millions of people are keeping on [unreliable] hardware keys,
phones, computers, counterparty and intrusion risks, etc...
subject to all sorts of mishaps... for which they have no
non-digital, physical destruction mitigated, redundant,
distance separated, hidden, seed/key backups from which
to recover their nominal values after their home, work,
local, region, or world reboots.


Re: FCC to mull cellphone blocking options for state prisons

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
> https://apnews.com/article/business-technology-prisons-d15e081393980510103702b64fc9bd8b

Just another way of solitary confinement torture to keep
turning humans into alienated sociopaths psychopaths
recidivists guaranteed when they get out to keep giving
GovCorp the excuse to perpetuate more "crimefighting".
All the while extorting and bankrupting them and their
families and friends to pay for the prison calling scams.

Some countries and locales give phones, internet,
books, work, outdoor spaces, visitors, etc.

The stupid USA can't even make all drugs completely
legal, which would instantly end all drug related crimes,
and move the money from senseless drug SWAT murder
gangs into community rehab, etc.


Secure Phones: OpenSource, and FBI's Fake Encrypted Honeypots

2021-07-10 Thread grarpamp
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7b4gg/anom-phone-arcaneos-fbi-backdoor
The original article.

Researchers might find some AN0M's for sale on darknet markets.
If they were still intact, more exploit disclosure could be done.
They could then be reflashed into SW development units.
But as with all closed HW and SW, and anything from
untrusted sources, they couldn't really be trusted for
critical use without threat modelling and risk management.

Doing more... buy one of each of the "secure phone" brands
that are out there. Publish a comparison on what they are
doing in HW and SW to be "secure".

Then to the extent it's just SW, integrate whatever they're doing that
you missed, into your own opensource ROM project on github,
or into any of the other existing secure ROM projects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_mobile_phones
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-phone-linux-distributions/
https://tuxphones.com/list-linux-mobile-devices/
https://tuxphones.com/all-linux-distributions-for-smartphones/

Any cheap ARM64 phone can run a Linux or BSD with a strong
passphrase, optional USB/NFC/RFID TFA / boot key.

Since Baseband and WiFi HW and FW are compromised
from the factory [1], you're sort of carrying a brick anyways.

Phones are just computers with HW radios built in.
They can talk over WiFi / USB / Serial to external Cell
and WiFi HW radios.

And both Cell and WiFi can be done in GNURadio.

Pine64 Pinephone and Purism Librem5 might
still be the only ones doing Baseband over Serial.
Too bad they don't have a fast battery cut or instant
hard reboot or crypto blacken and wipe switch.

[1] See Apple's recent WiFi SSID exploit.

For that matter, did Apple ever say that they could
not (as in the phone architecture totally prevents
anyone from breaking in), as opposed to Apple
would just refuse to break into their own phones.


FCC to mull cellphone blocking options for state prisons

2021-07-10 Thread jim bell
https://apnews.com/article/business-technology-prisons-d15e081393980510103702b64fc9bd8b
Jim Bell's Comment:. "Cell phones".