Re: This is the worst of all possible worlds

2018-02-14 Thread Shawn K. Quinn 
On 02/13/2018 06:27 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote:
> Nothing can be said that is new. Only the actions taken.
> 
> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/18/atm_purchase/
> 
>> Four out of five cash machines still run Win XP or Win XP Embedded.

And the remaining one out of five probably still runs Windows
"something-else".

Is there really a reason that an ATM needs to run anything resembling a
full-fledged computer operating system? How about something designed,
from the ground up, to be as secure as a well-designed ATM should be?

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Re: This is the worst of all possible worlds

2018-02-13 Thread Ryan Carboni 
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Not Real <theborla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> These tools are making their way around. A few weeks ago I got offered to
> make a free 100 usd outside a walmart. Open an account, get it to retrieve
> money, then they would "cause an error in the machine", and have it spit
> all the money.
>
> As far as I know they only targeted Bank of America, might be something
> particular with those machines.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Ryan Carboni <rya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For some unknown reason, ATMs are not mandated to have military-grade
>> cybersecurity.
>> Since apparently rogue technicians can access them and have them release
>> all their cash.
>> I live in the worst of all possible imaginable worlds, at least if decent
>> things were denied to people because they didn't exist or because they were
>> too poor, that would be one thing.
>> It's another if banks don't care about their own money.
>>
>
>
Nothing can be said that is new. Only the actions taken.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/18/atm_purchase/

> Four out of five cash machines still run Win XP or Win XP Embedded.

Re: This is the worst of all possible worlds

2018-02-13 Thread Not Real 
These tools are making their way around. A few weeks ago I got offered to
make a free 100 usd outside a walmart. Open an account, get it to retrieve
money, then they would "cause an error in the machine", and have it spit
all the money.

As far as I know they only targeted Bank of America, might be something
particular with those machines.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Ryan Carboni <rya...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For some unknown reason, ATMs are not mandated to have military-grade
> cybersecurity.
> Since apparently rogue technicians can access them and have them release
> all their cash.
> I live in the worst of all possible imaginable worlds, at least if decent
> things were denied to people because they didn't exist or because they were
> too poor, that would be one thing.
> It's another if banks don't care about their own money.
>

This is the worst of all possible worlds

2018-02-12 Thread Ryan Carboni 
For some unknown reason, ATMs are not mandated to have military-grade
cybersecurity.
Since apparently rogue technicians can access them and have them release
all their cash.
I live in the worst of all possible imaginable worlds, at least if decent
things were denied to people because they didn't exist or because they were
too poor, that would be one thing.
It's another if banks don't care about their own money.