Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-28 Thread jamesd
jam...@echeque.com wrote: Bitcoin is obviously broken in so many ways, but is working because of social coordination by a behind the scenes group who simply refuse to allow those breaks to happen. On 12/29/2017 11:35 AM, juan wrote: and what group is that? As I said, a secretive and

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-28 Thread juan
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 11:06:34 +1000 jam...@echeque.com wrote: > On 12/29/2017 10:13 AM, Steven Schear wrote: > > For obvious fraud and thefts, yes. Stashcrypto's multi-sig Voting > > Pools, if widely adopted, have a good chance to quell some of the > > illicit activities. However, there are so many

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-28 Thread jamesd
On 12/29/2017 10:13 AM, Steven Schear wrote: For obvious fraud and thefts, yes. Stashcrypto's multi-sig Voting Pools, if widely adopted, have a good chance to quell some of the illicit activities. However, there are so many ways markets and exchanges can and are manipulated (e.g., "painting the

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-28 Thread Steven Schear
For obvious fraud and thefts, yes. Stashcrypto's multi-sig Voting Pools, if widely adopted, have a good chance to quell some of the illicit activities. However, there are so many ways markets and exchanges can and are manipulated (e.g., "painting the tape") that it will clearly take some time and m

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-27 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 10:04:23PM -0800, Steven Schear wrote: > Clearly they are not, yet. The problems are somewhat multi-dimensional and Are there attempts to mitigate dishonest majority?

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-26 Thread James A. Donald
On 12/26/2017 4:04 PM, Steven Schear wrote: Clearly they are not, yet. The problems are somewhat multi-dimensional and the way forward isn't assured. If some counters wanted to scale a "Bitcoin-like" chain to handle, on-chain, the average transaction volume of PayPal (about 120/sec.), quite a c

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-25 Thread Steven Schear
Clearly they are not, yet. The problems are somewhat multi-dimensional and the way forward isn't assured. If some counters wanted to scale a "Bitcoin-like" chain to handle, on-chain, the average transaction volume of PayPal (about 120/sec.), quite a coup, it would require (by my reckoning) a block

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-25 Thread James A. Donald
On 12/26/2017 12:58 AM, Michalis Kargakis wrote: Not a ready implementation yet but the mimblewimble protocol solves a lot of the scalability issues plagued in other blockchains. https://scalingbitcoin.org/papers/mimblewimble.pdf https://github.com/ignopeverell/grin/blob/master/doc/intro.md M

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-25 Thread Michalis Kargakis
ct: Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of > transactions? > Local Time: December 25, 2017 3:08 PM > UTC Time: December 25, 2017 2:08 PM > From: gmk...@gmail.com > To: Georgi Guninski > cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org > > On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 8:17 AM Geor

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-25 Thread Karl
On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 8:17 AM Georgi Guninski wrote: > > Which cryptocurrencies are ready for large scale? > Searching the interwebs and chat suggest decentralized solution will be > extremely difficult if possible at all. I used google and found these. LN support earlier this year: https://

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-25 Thread Georgi Guninski
On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 07:27:24AM -0500, Karl Semich wrote: > > > On Dec 24, 2017, at 6:18 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > > > Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions? > > Some are! Bitcoin is not, but all this incredible growth incentivi

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-24 Thread James A. Donald
What I mean by "large" is "prepare to conquer the world and displace major existing asset classes, including the US$. And the existing architecture is not going to be able to do that. The lightning network might be able to do that, but we will have to see what happens in practice. At present t

Re: Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-24 Thread Karl Semich
> On Dec 24, 2017, at 6:18 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions? Some are! Bitcoin is not, but all this incredible growth incentivizes people to get a move on with regard to making it scale. > Say if the database is 10

Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions?

2017-12-24 Thread Georgi Guninski
Are cryptocurrencies ready to handle large number of transactions? Say if the database is 1000TB or more? Doesn't handling large number of transactions contradict decentralization? Several days ago the BTC blockchain was about 150GB. Heard complains that BTC fees are rather larg