Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-13 Thread juan
On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:10:11 -0400 John Newman wrote: > > Of course, solar and wind power is great :) Anything to stop burning > more fucking carbon.. burning carbon means combining it oxygen to get carbon dioxide. And carbon dioxide happens to be the feedstock from which plants gro

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-13 Thread Steven Schear
The biofuel basis I mention doesn't use land biomass as input but only solar (or other green energy) and the atmosphere. On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 10:20 AM jim bell wrote: > I think the main hurdle to using biofuels is reducing the cost of enzymes > used to break down cellulose. ("cellulases"). > h

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-13 Thread jim bell
I think the main hurdle to using biofuels is reducing the cost of enzymes used to break down cellulose.  ("cellulases").    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulase    Plenty of biomass is available, but it is necessary to break down cellulose.  That's hard, because nature has evolved cellulose

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-13 Thread Steven Schear
One of the primary problems with the nuclear power industry is that all it's initial commercial participants came from military contracting where a key purpose was breeding weapon stockpiles. Pressurized uranium heavy water reactors were the best for this. Safety for civilian use was much less a co

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-13 Thread jim bell
On Friday, July 13, 2018, 8:10:15 AM PDT, John Newman wrote: On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 05:20:30PM +, jim bell wrote: >>  This article sure sounds foolish.  As I see it, the main driver in the >>increase in "growth"  (other than population) is productivity.  Productivity >>tends to be dri

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-13 Thread Steven Schear
A possible alternative is to transition to biofuels, which harvest all their carbon from the atmosphere, and can be net carbon neutral. On Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 8:10 AM John Newman wrote: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 05:20:30PM +, jim bell wrote: > > This article sure sounds foolish. As I see it

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-13 Thread John Newman
On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 05:20:30PM +, jim bell wrote: > This article sure sounds foolish.  As I see it, the main driver in the > increase in "growth"  (other than population) is productivity.  Productivity > tends to be driven by gradual adoptions of automation, which has been a major > fac

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-07 Thread mark M
On Jul 6, 2018 at 11:51 PM, jim bell wrote: "Page not found" was the only result I got. Tried twice. Jim Bell On Friday, July 6, 2018, 11:17:13 AM PDT, Steven Schear < schear.st...@gmail.com> wrote: Yes, lots of battery R&D underway. https://www.pocket-lint.com

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread Steven Schear
They'll all come with a self-destruct command like starships on Star Trek. On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 1:43 PM juan wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:47:56 -0700 > Steven Schear wrote: > > > As automation displaces the great majority of workers, labor (not > > industrial) productivity will zoom past zero

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread juan
On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 10:47:56 -0700 Steven Schear wrote: > As automation displaces the great majority of workers, labor (not > industrial) productivity will zoom past zero. > > As for energy, battery, and other temporary energy storage, will surely > improve though increases in density could becom

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread jim bell
On Friday, July 6, 2018, 11:27:52 AM PDT, bbrewer wrote: > On Jul 6, 2018, at 2:21 PM, jim bell wrote: > > "Page not found"  was the only result I got.  Tried twice. > >                          Jim Bell https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/130380-future-batteries-coming-soo

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread bbrewer
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 2:21 PM, jim bell wrote: > > "Page not found" was the only result I got. Tried twice. > > Jim Bell https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/130380-future-batteries-coming-soon-charge-in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air Concepts are n

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread jim bell
"Page not found"  was the only result I got.  Tried twice.                           Jim Bell On Friday, July 6, 2018, 11:17:13 AM PDT, Steven Schear wrote: Yes, lots of battery R&D underway. https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/130380-future-batteries-coming-soon-charge-in-second

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread Steven Schear
Yes, lots of battery R&D underway. https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/130380-future-batteries-coming-soon-charge-in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air.amphtml&ved=2ahUKEwioob-5iYvcAhXqsFQKHaDND0wQFjAJegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0E4cjh2iTFbST5HPPcC1sM&cf=1 On Fri, Jul 6, 2018, 10:59 AM jim b

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread jim bell
Sorry I posted "up", but my stupid Yahoo email editor would not add a line (or lines) below your comments, at least not without "exploding" your cite to include the picture, etc.  Couldn't figure out how to fix that, except by commenting "up". In the last week or so, I saw a news item about a

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread Steven Schear
As automation displaces the great majority of workers, labor (not industrial) productivity will zoom past zero. As for energy, battery, and other temporary energy storage, will surely improve though increases in density could become a major saftey factor as they equal or exceed liquid fuel (perhap

Re: Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread jim bell
This article sure sounds foolish.  As I see it, the main driver in the increase in "growth"  (other than population) is productivity.  Productivity tends to be driven by gradual adoptions of automation, which has been a major factor for 50+ years, and actually far larger.  Automation isn't goin

Govt economic advisor warns British defence planners that growth is ending... and it's not just the U.K.

2018-07-06 Thread Steven Schear
"If we extrapolate this trend forward, labour productivity growth would reach zero by 2028." https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/govt-economic-advisor-warns-british-defence-planners-that-growth-is-ending-abf806f17845