On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 11:01:04AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 04:56:35PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> > On 09/07/2018 03:57 PM, juan wrote:
> > > it's been a while since the US military nazis, the wall street
> > > bankers, other amerikan humanitarians and US empire vass
On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 04:56:35PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> On 09/07/2018 03:57 PM, juan wrote:
> > it's been a while since the US military nazis, the wall street
> > bankers, other amerikan humanitarians and US empire vassal
> > states have carried their last false flag attack? A new on
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 13:13:48 -0700
Razer wrote:
> seen a pic of the device and mailer?
> https://66.media.tumblr.com/5be62ea87ebb6d018b7c9375b03fc57c/tumblr_ph9vzxIJ021r5tcby_1280.jpg
yeah looks like a joke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesar_sayoc
"Law enforcement officials told Associated P
Many Khashoggi's and Saud's...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khashoggi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John_Philby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Saud
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia-United_States_relations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 11:28 AM grarpamp wrote:
>
Financial scams like 2008 are always effective ops because
> they don't teach any of that in school to the non elite masses.
>
Great video on how the WS grandees missed prior major market opportunities,
as they did the crypto asset boat, and are no
Corrected link https://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/179493331494
juan > well, I guess the latest false flag attack is : trumpo supporter
sending 'pipe bombs' how fuckingly retarded can amaericans be? This seems like
a new universal record. Not false flag... red herring. Diversi
Original message From: juan Date:
10/27/18 12:23 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
latest false flag attack? > well, I guess the latest false flag attack is :
trumpo supporter sending 'pipe bombs' how fuckingly retarded can amaeric
well, I guess the latest false flag attack is : trumpo supporter
sending 'pipe bombs'
how fuckingly retarded can amaericans be? This seems like a new
universal record.
On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 07:57:19PM -0300, Juan wrote:
> it's been a while since the US military nazis, the wall street
> bankers, other amerikan humanitarians and US empire vassal states
> have carried their last false flag attack? A new one is overdue?
>
> Is there any be
> MEK
Doesn't matter, it's Islam (or any of many religions for that matter),
all still fundamentally at odds with those who seek freedom...
Convert, or pay tax and no free speech, or move out, or die.
> Pucker up your sphincter for a war on Iran.
US been angling pretty hard off and on,
the fake
Original message From: grarpamp Date:
10/1/18 10:55 AM (GMT-08:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Re:
latest false flag attack?
> Basically, after the Soviet Union collapsed, the US military was looking
> for someone/something else to fight.
> a Pea
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_arising_from_the_September_11_attacks
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_stock_market_crashes_and_bear_markets
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_crash
Pretty graphs of $Billions being made.
Some say incentives.
A prediction market in effect?
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 14:27:40 -0400
grarpamp wrote:
> > I originally was wondering about the NEXT false flag attack or inside
> > job
>
> Financial scams like 2008 are always effective ops because
> they don't teach any of that in school to the non elite masses.
Ha. I guess that sor
> I originally was wondering about the NEXT false flag attack or inside
> job
Smashing buildings has been done and thus if done again
won't result in much more than marginal increase in wealth
and power and control reallocation. Even mayhem in US
schools / malls has sort of become noise and
> Basically, after the Soviet Union collapsed, the US military was looking
> for someone/something else to fight.
> a Pearl Harbor sort of scenario.
https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_theory
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 23:17:22 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> On 29/09/18 19:23, juan wrote:
>
> > OK Peter. Now if you don't mind tell me (or 'us') about your views on
> > liberal anarchy?
>
> Not relevant here, but fundamentally - old hippy, still.
Not relevant here? This seems
On 29/09/18 19:23, juan wrote:
OK Peter. Now if you don't mind tell me (or 'us') about your views on
liberal anarchy?
Not relevant here, but fundamentally - old hippy, still.
Not an anarchist, there are obvious individual and collective benefits
to having some sort of state.
Used
On Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:56:08 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> Structurally, it was a piece of crap. Tinsel with rocks.
>
OK Peter. Now if you don't mind tell me (or 'us') about your views on
liberal anarchy?
8:00) To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject:
Re: latest false flag attack?
On 28/09/18 23:48, juan wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:14:29 +0100
> Peter Fairbrother wrote:
>> In the video it was most probably cladding not scaffolding burning. It
>> was still outside the main structu
On 28/09/18 23:48, juan wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:14:29 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
In the video it was most probably cladding not scaffolding burning. It
was still outside the main structure. Not structurally threatening.
cladding? Made of what?
Polystyrene foam. [3] cf G
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:14:29 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> On 26/09/18 22:24, juan wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 08:53:56 +0100
> > Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Now this does look like a fucking "major conflagration"
> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hSPFL
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 09:32:24 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
>
> >> Another thing you will find there is that the rating is for the
> >> resistance of the column and the fire protective material taken
> >> together, rather than for the fire protective material alone.
> >
> >
> > OK - where'
On 26/09/18 22:24, juan wrote:
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 08:53:56 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
Now this does look like a fucking "major conflagration"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hSPFL2Zlpg
No. It certainly doesn't look structurally significant.
OK - The build
>> If Trump is assassinated or removed via a coupe (by political means via an
>> impeachment with no foundation), there would be civil war in the US.
>
> Very likely. And that would be the point of doing it :)
Sure, lols.
But civil war isn't too fun or productive, lots of your friends and
fam die
> 9/11 was caused by Islam.
Yes... you may add the Fuckery of Religions around the world, as
an ultimate cause, along with the formerly noted one of the Fuckery
of Governments around the world.
As you can see in the quote below... both worldly fakes, Government
and Religion, discovered a way to p
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 08:53:56 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
>
> > Now this does look like a fucking "major conflagration"
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hSPFL2Zlpg
>
> No. It certainly doesn't look structurally significant.
OK - The building is engulfed in flames but y
On 25/09/18 22:50, juan wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:16:59 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
On 23/09/18 04:01, juan wrote:
[...] Here's what your pal agent fairbigbrother
Eric Blair sometimes called my Dad Fairbigbrother or Bigfairbrother
(they were close friends). :)
Really?? I th
On 25/09/18 23:27, juan wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 08:19:15 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
Cases,
especially from Russia and China, were excluded because data was lacking
or censored.
China's Netizens Ridicule CCTV Fire - so much for censorship.
I guess the Chinese authorities foun
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:17:40 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-24 17:04, Mirimir wrote:
> > It's arguable that Juan is nether red nor blue, but rather hates both.
>
> Right now Blue State Mueller (surrounded by democrats, FBI, and CIA) is
> going after Red State Trump (surrounded by r
On 09/25/2018 04:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 06:06:45PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
>> On 09/24/2018 03:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 02:48:44PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
>> You on the other hand, I never know for sure when you're kidding, or
>> just
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 08:19:15 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> Cases,
> especially from Russia and China, were excluded because data was lacking
> or censored.
China's Netizens Ridicule CCTV Fire - so much for censorship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrDb_k5wJ28
Now
On Tue, 25 Sep 2018 07:16:59 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> On 23/09/18 04:01, juan wrote:
> > [...] Here's what your pal agent fairbigbrother
>
> Eric Blair sometimes called my Dad Fairbigbrother or Bigfairbrother
> (they were close friends). :)
Really?? I thought my pun was rather
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:48:44 -0700
Mirimir wrote:
>
> Hey, we all get stuck in being right, at times. But I believe that my
> opinions are generally not dogmatic, and that I'm open to evidence and
> argument. And I do revise opinions when convinced by evidence and/or
> argument. Also, I general
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 11:27:22PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> I suppose that I am a "free speech neon nazi" ;)
You -do- know that Germany's modern concenkiken camps have plenty of
openings?
Grandma Haverbeck could use some company, as could free speech - grab
a bunch of ya mates, whip on over to Ger
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 06:06:45PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> On 09/24/2018 03:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 02:48:44PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> >> On 09/24/2018 12:18 PM, juan wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:04:09 -0700
> >>> Mirimir wrote:
> >>>
> He just has his
On 24/09/18 13:59, z9wahqvh wrote:
NIST report page xxxv: "[WTC7] was the first known instance of the total
collapse of a tall building primarily due to fires."
Very roughly, in the 50 years since 1968 I have found 38 structurally
significant fires in tall buildings.
By structurally signifi
On 09/24/2018 10:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 06:06:45PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
>> And you know, not that I'm a Nazi or whatever,
>
> Oh.
>
>
> Dear me.
>
>
>
> You said that word!
>
>
> And claimed that you're "not" - wink wink, nudge, nudge.
>
> So clean your mo
On 23/09/18 04:01, juan wrote:
[...] Here's what your pal agent fairbigbrother
Eric Blair sometimes called my Dad Fairbigbrother or Bigfairbrother
(they were close friends). :)
I don't think Big Brother was named after him though.
wrote and you dishonestly ignored as usual :
Put that ano
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 09:50:01PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> On 09/24/2018 09:17 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> > And while those dirty rotten Zionists have no doubt done lots of bad
> > things, right now they are not bombing marginal federal electorates in
> > flyover country with black male milita
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 06:06:45PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> And you know, not that I'm a Nazi or whatever,
Oh.
Dear me.
You said that word!
And claimed that you're "not" - wink wink, nudge, nudge.
So clean your mouth out Mirimir and repeate after me at least 100
times:
I am a full bloode
On 09/24/2018 09:17 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-24 17:04, Mirimir wrote:
>> It's arguable that Juan is nether red nor blue, but rather hates both.
>
> Right now Blue State Mueller (surrounded by democrats, FBI, and CIA) is
> going after Red State Trump (surrounded by republicans, Ge
On 2018-09-24 17:04, Mirimir wrote:
It's arguable that Juan is nether red nor blue, but rather hates both.
Right now Blue State Mueller (surrounded by democrats, FBI, and CIA) is
going after Red State Trump (surrounded by republicans, Generals, and
Military Intelligence)
Mueller has obvious
On 2018-09-24 22:59, z9wahqvh wrote:
the report itself says in plain English at the same time.
NIST engineers did/do consider what happened at WTC7 to be unusual.
It is unusual for a building to be smashed up by the collapse of an
adjacent building, and for there then to be no water with which
On 09/24/2018 03:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 02:48:44PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
>> On 09/24/2018 12:18 PM, juan wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:04:09 -0700
>>> Mirimir wrote:
>>>
He just has his own conception of reality, and won't
accept other perspectives ;)
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 02:48:44PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> On 09/24/2018 12:18 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:04:09 -0700
> > Mirimir wrote:
> >
> >> He just has his own conception of reality, and won't
> >> accept other perspectives ;)
> >
> > I let that pass the first time when
On 09/24/2018 11:58 AM, juan wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:04:09 -0700
> Mirimir wrote:
>
>> On 09/23/2018 05:47 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:13:36 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> None of which changes the fact the building was designed to withstand
>
On 09/24/2018 12:18 PM, juan wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:04:09 -0700
> Mirimir wrote:
>
>> He just has his own conception of reality, and won't
>> accept other perspectives ;)
>
> I let that pass the first time when you said
>
>> But Juan, you are so damn committed to being right.
>
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:04:09 -0700
Mirimir wrote:
> He just has his own conception of reality, and won't
> accept other perspectives ;)
I let that pass the first time when you said
>But Juan, you are so damn committed to being right.
But two times is enough =)
Are you
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 07:40:52 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> On 24/09/18 00:13, juan wrote:
>
> > especially dedicated to agent fairbrother, 'expert' on metals
> >
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGYrFxOL0vY
>
> One ought to learn to sort out the obviously bullshit.
>
> Begi
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 00:04:09 -0700
Mirimir wrote:
> On 09/23/2018 05:47 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:13:36 +1000
> >> jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >>> None of which changes the fact the building was designed to withstand
> >>> only
> >>> three hours of uncontrolled fir
Much of NIST findings have not been made
available to the public. Some building
professionals have been given limited access
under NDA. Terrorism continues to be the
rationale for withholding, no matter the
sustained growth among conspiracists about WTC and other calamities.
WTC7 had emergen
from the NIST report on WTC7, downloaded directly from NIST's own website,
at https://ws680.nist.gov/publication/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861610
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:41 AM Peter Fairbrother wrote:
>
> Begins: "Never before or after 9/11 have steel framed buildings
> collapsed due to fire".
>
>
NI
On 09/23/2018 05:47 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:13:36 +1000
>> jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>>> None of which changes the fact the building was designed to withstand
>>> only
>>> three hours of uncontrolled fire
>
> On 2018-09-24 05:34, juan wrote:
>> that is a fucking
On 24/09/18 00:13, juan wrote:
especially dedicated to agent fairbrother, 'expert' on metals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGYrFxOL0vY
One ought to learn to sort out the obviously bullshit.
Begins: "Never before or after 9/11 have steel framed buildings
collapsed due to f
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:13:36 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
None of which changes the fact the building was designed to withstand only
three hours of uncontrolled fire
On 2018-09-24 05:34, juan wrote:
that is a fuckingly stupid lie that neither you nor agent fairbrother
can provide a
especially dedicated to agent fairbrother, 'expert' on metals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGYrFxOL0vY
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 06:30:39 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> Not what those pictures show
>
>
> Your annotation is a lie, since it shows
> (https://anonfile.com/J4u0Vehcb4/e3_png) the dark line moving straight
> downwards,
Which is what it does.
I provided the pictures wi
On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 06:42:25 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-24 05:34, juan wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:13:36 +1000
> > jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >
> >> None of which changes the fact the building was designed to withstand
> >> three hours of uncontrolled fire
> >
> >
> >
On 2018-09-24 05:34, juan wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:13:36 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
None of which changes the fact the building was designed to withstand
three hours of uncontrolled fire
that is a fuckingly stupid lie that neither you nor agent fairbrother
can provide a so
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
9/11 was caused by Islam.
On 2018-09-24 05:21, juan wrote:
no doubt tazer and the other goverment agent fairbrother agree with
that as well.
This stuff has been happening for thirteen hundred years. As Major
Nasim Hasan explained in his power point presen
On 2018-09-24 05:13, juan wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:03:54 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
On 2018-09-22 04:55, juan wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:58:01 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
On 2018-09-20 12:35, juan wrote:
So if the building "toppled like a tree" then at that time (half way t
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:13:36 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> None of which changes the fact the building was designed to withstand
> three hours of uncontrolled fire
that is a fuckingly stupid lie that neither you nor agent fairbrother
can provide a source for.
By confusin
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 21:22:31 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-23 21:00, grarpamp wrote:
> > 911 as a whole was ultimately caused by the fuckery of
> > governments around the world [1].
> >
> > Does anyone actually dispute that?
>
> 9/11 was caused by Islam.
no doubt tazer
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:44:38 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> If you throw a rock at a glass window, it will shatter in a complicated
glass is an amorphous solid and brittle. That's why it shatters.
Glass is AMORPHOUS - it doesn't have a regular structure. It is the
opposite
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:03:54 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-22 04:55, juan wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:58:01 +1000
> > jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >
> >> On 2018-09-20 12:35, juan wrote:
> >>> So if the building "toppled like a tree" then at that time (half way
> >>> through)
On 2018-09-23 21:00, grarpamp wrote:
911 as a whole was ultimately caused by the fuckery of
governments around the world [1].
Does anyone actually dispute that?
9/11 was caused by Islam. Islam has been engaging in terrorism against
Christians starting with Mohammad, and continuing almost unb
The 3 hr rating is for the *FIRE PROTECTION material* coating the
columns, not the columns themselves, let alone the whole building, like peter
wrongly assumes.
What do you think the fire protection material is for?
If it rated for three hours, this implies that the columns will ceas
Posters said:
> There's only 'terrorism' when [something needs to happen]
> for the [next century]...
> The details are complicated, but the basic story is simple:
Some say there were triggers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cbZxWcurGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt-ldMj9y9w
...whateve
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 16:28:15 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >> On 2018-09-23 04:50, juan wrote:
> >>> OK - So you don't have any reference for the claim
> >>
> >> I just gave you a reference to the claim.
> >
> >
> > No, you fucking didn't. Here's what your pal agent fairbigbrother wrot
On 2018-09-22 22:47, z9wahqvh wrote:
for anyone interested, the page I pointed at previously contains links
both to the official explanations for the fall of WTC7, which include
many references to evidence, and public documents that clash with
certain aspects of that explanation:
http://www.co
On 2018-09-23 04:50, juan wrote:
OK - So you don't have any reference for the claim
I just gave you a reference to the claim.
No, you fucking didn't. Here's what your pal agent fairbigbrother wrote
and you dishonestly ignored as usual :
The 3 hr rating is for the *F
On 20/09/18 12:06, z9wahqvh wrote:
[...]
in WTC 1 and 2, posit a mechanism for building collapse
The mechanism is of course simply that the heavy concrete floors of the
top twenty or ten stories, partly held together by the outrigger truss
system in the roof, fell one or two stories onto the
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 11:33:55 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> > Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> WTC was rated for 3 hours major fire resistance.
>
> On 2018-09-23 04:50, juan wrote:
> > OK - So you don't have any reference for the claim
>
> I just gave you a reference to the claim.
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
WTC was rated for 3 hours major fire resistance.
On 2018-09-23 04:50, juan wrote:
OK - So you don't have any reference for the claim
I just gave you a reference to the claim.
Nist cites pre 9/11 building codes and pre 9/11 work orders.
https://ws680.nist.gov/pub
On Sat, 22 Sep 2018 03:02:49 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> On 21/09/18 20:00, juan wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:20:19 +0100
> > Peter Fairbrother wrote:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> WTC was rated for 3 hours major fire resistance.
> >>
> >> Put that another way - *it was rated so that it _would_
for anyone interested, the page I pointed at previously contains links both
to the official explanations for the fall of WTC7, which include many
references to evidence, and public documents that clash with certain
aspects of that explanation:
http://www.consensus911.org/the-911-consensus-points/#W
On 2018-09-22 05:09, juan wrote:
Yeah, that's another thing. You are saying that a pilot with no actual
experience flying that sort of plane was able to fly that close to the ground,
and hit a the target?
Presumably he intended to dive into the pentagon from above, as the
other two
>> >> Anyway, 9/11 was done by governments fuckery around the world.
>> >
>> > 9/11 was done by terrorists with boxcutters.
>>
>> And as you well know, that was caused by the fuckery of
>> governments around the world. Thus the first above is true.
>
> So that's YET another thing.
>
> I
On 2018-09-22 05:00, juan wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:20:19 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
WTC was rated for 3 hours major fire resistance.
Put that another way - *it was rated so that it _would_ collapse after 3
(or so) hours of major conflagration*.
It's in the design docs.
On 2018-09-22 04:55, juan wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:58:01 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
On 2018-09-20 12:35, juan wrote:
So if the building "toppled like a tree" then at that time (half way through)
it should be tilted FOURTY FIVE degrees, not 10.
As I said, it *began* by toppling lik
On 21/09/18 20:00, juan wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:20:19 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
WTC was rated for 3 hours major fire resistance.
Put that another way - *it was rated so that it _would_ collapse after 3
(or so) hours of major conflagration*.
It's in the design docs.
Wh
On 2018-09-22 04:55, juan wrote:
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:58:01 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
On 2018-09-20 12:35, juan wrote:
So if the building "toppled like a tree" then at that time (half way through)
it should be tilted FOURTY FIVE degrees, not 10.
As I said, it *began* by toppling lik
On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 01:09:37 -0400
grarpamp wrote:
> On 9/20/18, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> >> Anyway, 9/11 was done by governments fuckery around the world.
> >
> > 9/11 was done by terrorists with boxcutters.
>
> And as you well know, that was caused by the fuckery of
> governments around th
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:20:35 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-14 04:22, juan wrote:
> > 1) there was no 'hijacked' commercial plane at the pentagon
>
> So what happened to flight 77 and the people on board,
I don't know. Maybe there wasn't any such flight?
How
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 22:20:19 +0100
Peter Fairbrother wrote:
>
> WTC was rated for 3 hours major fire resistance.
>
> Put that another way - *it was rated so that it _would_ collapse after 3
> (or so) hours of major conflagration*.
>
> It's in the design docs.
Where's your evidence
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 15:58:01 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-20 12:35, juan wrote:
> > So if the building "toppled like a tree" then at that time (half way
> > through) it should be tilted FOURTY FIVE degrees, not 10.
>
> As I said, it *began* by toppling like a tree,
No. Y
On 20/09/18 12:06, z9wahqvh wrote:
posit a mechanism for building collapse that [..]
has never been seen before or since, despite the fact that planes do
crash into buildings and fires do happen in buildings pretty frequently.
Planes.
A B-25 crashed into the Empire State building in the 1940
On 9/20/18, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>> Anyway, 9/11 was done by governments fuckery around the world.
>
> 9/11 was done by terrorists with boxcutters.
And as you well know, that was caused by the fuckery of
governments around the world. Thus the first above is true.
On 2018-09-20 21:06, z9wahqvh wrote:
they have quite a bit of good evidence collected regarding WTC 7, both
the official and plausible stories about what brought it down, and the
questions that they think remain. I agree with them. The explanations
are ad hoc, often stretching the limits of cre
On 09/19/2018 11:09 PM, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-20 12:03, Mirimir wrote:
>> But again, does it really matter whether there was a plane, or just a
>> missile? As long as we're assuming that the US military orchestrated the
>> attack, or at least played some nontrivial role, that is ;)
On 2018-09-14 04:22, juan wrote:
1) there was no 'hijacked' commercial plane at the pentagon
So what happened to flight 77 and the people on board, and what was that
commercial sized plane that flew over the road so low that it clipped
the light poles?
On 2018-09-20 18:36, grarpamp wrote:
Anyway, 9/11 was done by governments fuckery around the world.
9/11 was done by terrorists with boxcutters.
The US government was only involved in that it closed its eyes, in much
the same way and for much the same reasons as Major Hasan's colleagues
list
I find the work by the 9/11 Consensus Panel to be the best-documented, most
detailed, and most sober set of questions about the event that I've read.
they have quite a bit of good evidence collected regarding WTC 7, both the
official and plausible stories about what brought it down, and the
questi
Show docs / pics of any significant damage to 7 attributed and
accepted by analysts as being from *planes* bits. 7 appears done
by the north tower ejecting into it, and resulting fire.
Anyway, 9/11 was done by governments fuckery around the world.
Which in the worst cases, were peaceful dissoluti
On 20/09/18 03:35, juan wrote:
so yes, a controlled demolition.
If you are talking about QTC1 and WTC2, while at first glance the
collapses may look like explosive demolitions, if you look closely they
are very different.
(I think you mean explosive demolition, or perhaps building
On 2018-09-20 12:03, Mirimir wrote:
But again, does it really matter whether there was a plane, or just a
missile? As long as we're assuming that the US military orchestrated the
attack, or at least played some nontrivial role, that is ;)
It is unlikely that the US military orchestrated the att
On 2018-09-20 12:35, juan wrote:
So if the building "toppled like a tree" then at that time (half way through)
it should be tilted FOURTY FIVE degrees, not 10.
As I said, it *began* by toppling like a tree, which shattered the
structure, and *then* it went into freefall.
Hence, no need to i
e: 9/19/18
7:39 PM (GMT-08:00) To: cp Subject: Re: latest false
flag attack?
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:40:18 -0700
taxer wrote:
> 3
> Scumbag opined:
> > 2) you are not here for honest intellectual discussion
>
you are just an anti-libertarian piece of shit ta
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:40:18 -0700
taxer wrote:
> 3
> Scumbag opined:
> > 2) you are not here for honest intellectual discussion
>
you are just an anti-libertarian piece of shit tazer, and a fidel
castro cocksucker. So there's no reason for you to be subscribed to the list,
On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:58:34 +1000
jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> On 2018-09-20 04:28, juan wrote:
> > See attached picture (yours). If you bother to count the floors you
> > will see that at the time of that frame, 23 floors have gone down. That's
> > half the building. Now, measure the angle
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