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From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FC: Massachusetts high court rules against man who taped abusive
cops
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 05:52:03 -0700
This is a fascinating case. The majority
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Greg Newby wrote:
This is a good opportunity to urge cp's who haven't yet, to read David
Brin's Transparent Society. It's pie in the sky, but essentially
advocates having cameras everywhere, so that anyone anywhere can tap
into a video feed.
Brin's scenario is
Eugene Leitl wrote:
#
#What we're getting (surprise, surprise) is that recording of
#the public is allright but not recording *by* the public. Mann's
#shooting back is rapidly getting outlawed.
I'm not one to make apologies for this sort of thing,
and perhaps I skimmed the article
At 04:20 PM 7/16/01 +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, Greg Newby wrote:
Mann's shooting back is rapidly
getting outlawed.
Heh, some of Mann's work involves pseudo-cameras (or dark acrylic plates
on your shirt, or leds under domes on your backback), so can we look forward
to laws
In MA, the law is not just against 'secret recording';
the wording states that the consent of all parties
must exist. (It does not state what constitutes
consent).
PT
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 10:56 AM
To: Eugene
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
#
#The blank panthers and the rest were opposed to the
#bourgeois democratic process.
Is that some sort of excuse for the treatment I listed?
The Tampa Bay Action Group
http://www.sptimes.com/News/071501/TampaBay/Masked_protesters_fig.shtml
The Tampa Bay Business Journal editorial
http://tampabay.bcentral.com/tampabay/stories/2001/07/16/editorial2.html?t=printable
Gurly cypherpunk Aimee wrote:
#
#Critics of contemporary surveillance law point out that we
#increasingly live in a world where THEY can spy on you, but you
#can't spy on THEM. Governments, business and employers are like
#bad parents that say, *I* can do it -- but you can't.
#
Isn't the ruling not specific to recording the police,
but that MA has a two-party recording rule?
Correct.
You might find it interesting that a number of states are considering (or
revisiting) visual recording statutes. One form has a privacy expectation
and exceptions for prisons, security
BTW, Mass. has always been funny about electronic surveillance. State
history is very interesting, and so is the law. (Early on, their police
wouldn't wiretap, it was not gentlemanly. Ahem.)
Consider the traditionalist two-party states and ponder on the true nature
of the historical parallels at
Keep in mind that the Mass. decision that started this thread
only dealt with *surreptitious* recording. Mann's shooting back
is still allowed even in Mass. as long as it's obvious what you're
doing.
-Declan
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 04:20:56PM +0200, Eugene Leitl wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jul 2001,
I was thinking along the same lines as David. Stickers in windshields
would work. I've also seen folks selling the these are my rights,
cop cards. Seems to be a market opportunity to add another line to
them.
-Declan
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 07:56:08AM -0700, David Honig wrote:
At 04:20 PM
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Matt said:
So I guess the moral of the story is that if you must record the
police you should do so clandestinely.
The Court addressed this:
Followed to its logical conclusion, the dissent would encourage drug
manufacturers to mount hidden video cameras in their facilities so they can
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 06:41:22PM -0500, Aimee Farr wrote:
Companies with products or applications relevant to defense are wary of
email from certain sovereigns. This is because they don't want clueless reps
giving away bacon in an email pretext attack. The government has been
harping on it
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, Aimee Farr wrote:
You can protect privacy without depriving people of the right to protect
themselves.
Only a lawyer, or crack head, could have thinking that fucked up.
'protect privacy' is equivalent to 'right to protect themselves'.
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At 02:29 PM 07/16/2001 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone have any idea if any ISPs are refusing to accept encrypted
email from black-listed countries?
Or is this just a matter of NAI cluelessness?
The usual principle of
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by
Ah, close but not the same. I was talking about cards that you hand
to the cops who stop you.
-Declan
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 02:50:00PM -0400, Greg Newby wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 02:26:46PM -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I was thinking along the same lines as David. Stickers in
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:46:20 -0700, Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 06:41:22PM -0500, Aimee Farr wrote:
Companies with products or applications relevant to defense are wary of
email from certain sovereigns. This is because they don't want clueless reps
giving
to see such positive
mainstream coverage of the cDc. It makes me wonder whether
the cDc are working the spin, or if they just found some sympathetic
journalists.
A quick Yahoo! search on Elinor Abreu yields some reasonably
competent reporting, I'd say.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010716
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Back to the original question: It's obvious that NAI is operating
under the belief that some ISPs are complying with some unspoken BXA
idea/wannabe-law and blocking encrypted messages from no-no
originating domains. Is this really the case, or is
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Back to the original question: It's obvious that NAI is operating
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July 17, 2001
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