Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread baudmax23
Well, Obvously, the policeman is NOT your friend. However (not to excuse, only to point out the reality): Most people in general, are spineless sheep, easily cowed by anybody in a suit-badge combo. I have nothing to say and let THEM prove whatever it is they are trying to frame you for.

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:28 AM -0800 3/24/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Because she got charged with *lying* to a fed when she was *not* under oath. So, the point is, as Duncan Frissell has always said on this list, when confronted with cops of any kind, shut up, and lawyer up. Period. I expect you can be nice

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Tyler Durden
Its a sign of John's early Alzheimers, when he lets his wealthwrath get in the way of his one-time pristine appreciation of civil liberties. Well, I don't know Variola...I don't actually see much in that post that violates that. In fact, kinda sheds some light on what might have triggered this

Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 04:01:55PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Its a sign of John's early Alzheimers, when he lets his wealthwrath get in the way of his one-time pristine appreciation of civil liberties. Well, I don't know Variola...I don't actually see much in that post that violates

busted for keycatcher

2004-03-24 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/orange/la-me-wiretap24mar24,1,760243.story?coll=la-editions-orange Man Indicted in Wiretap Case The defendant is accused of recording the computer keystrokes of a workplace

the gestapo the inquisition

2004-03-24 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
The abuse called the grand jury has been detailed here before. The fun continues. Mar 24, 2004 Attorneys to Argue Palestinian Activist Suffers From Mental Problems The Associated Press CHICAGO (AP) - Attorneys for a Palestinian activist jailed for refusing to testify before a grand jury

RE: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-24 Thread Tyler Durden
In fact, a *moral* argument can be made that restraint of that information is more fraud than trading on that information to begin with. Morally -- if morality caused markets and not the other way around :-) -- insiders should be *obligated* to trade on inside information as soon as they believe

Re: Max's Lesson (was Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI)

2004-03-24 Thread baudmax23
[snide preposterous presumptions deleted to save space] In response to R. A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I did not in any way or form, either explicitly much less implicitly, make any claim for the expropriation of money from wealthy persons in any form, much less by the state. Much as you'd

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Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Justin
Major Variola (ret) (2004-03-24 18:28Z) wrote: The only reason to speak to feds or cold-calling police is counter intel, learn what they're interested in. And then publish that. That is a very dangerous game, but it may soon become the only option. It's only a matter of time before remaining

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2004-03-24 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
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2004-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_viewnewsId=20040324005035newsLang=en March 24, 2004 08:30 AM US Eastern Timezone PGP Corporation Receives FIPS 140-2 Validation PALO ALTO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--March 24, 2004-- NIST Validation of PGP

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Gil Hamilton
If they want to do some good, how about investigating these criminals? http://www.ajc.com/business/content/business/0304/23senators.html Have to confess I'm a little confused, though. On the one hand, the article insists they broke no laws; on the other, it says they trade on privileged

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 06:53 PM 3/23/04 -0800, John Young wrote: Why pity Martha Stewart, so far she's escaped the pokey, Because she got charged with *lying* to a fed when she was *not* under oath. The lesson is real. The ordinary pig on the street --not just a fed-- can lie to you, and bust you if you return

Re: [osint] Martha's lesson - don't talk to the FBI

2004-03-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:28 AM -0800 3/24/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Because she got charged with *lying* to a fed when she was *not* under oath. So, the point is, as Duncan Frissell has always said on this list, when confronted with cops of any kind, shut up, and lawyer up. Period. I expect you can be nice