Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

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Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

2004-09-02 Thread Bill Stewart
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Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

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Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

2004-09-02 Thread Bill Stewart
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Sunder wrote: except these cops don't (yet?) have tanks Actually, in New York, they do. At least they *did* when I lived there, all the way up to 1985. They had exactly one tank (used to mow down the Middletown NJ has one also (about an hour from the city by car, YMMV by

Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

2004-09-02 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Sunder wrote: except these cops don't (yet?) have tanks Actually, in New York, they do. At least they *did* when I lived there, all the way up to 1985. They had exactly one tank (used to mow down the drug houses in AlphabetTown), and an APC. Oh, and the PD helicopters

Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

2004-09-02 Thread Sunder
Um, don't know what you've been smoking but: a. there is no we, except individuals with the freedom to chose their own actions. b. cops have guns. c. some cops have armor and semi (or full?) automatics along with the non-lethal weaponry. d. non-cops don't and aren't allowed to carry the

Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

2004-09-02 Thread Tyler Durden
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Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

2004-09-02 Thread Bill Stewart
At 07:46 PM 9/1/2004, you wrote: This ain't the nice little suburb you do your contract programming in... this is New York City. We only obey the law because we know there's a thin line between order and chaos in this town. Hey, those cops aren't here to create disorder, they're here to

Re: The cages on the Hudson, AKA Little Guantanamo (fwd)

2004-09-02 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 10:55 PM 9/1/04 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: Puerto Ricans in the ethnic neighborhoods along the shore might get uppity and take over the naval base, which everybody knew had Nuke-u-lur Weapons even though they'd never admit it, and the naval base might not be able to defend itself against a mob,