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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Tyler Durden wrote: Yes, but the old question needs to be asked: How much of this crime would go away if crystal meth were legal? There's little doubt that the vast majority of drug-related crime stems not from some crazed crime spree but from issues relating to supply

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Re: Gubmint Tests Passport RFID...

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Sorry. Got you mixed up with the other dude. You seem willing to back up any slams with facts quotes, so all respect is given. A good fight strengthens us, a sniper smells of MwGs. Sorry again. -TD From: J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL

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Re: MixMaster and mlist2...

2005-08-08 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005, Gregory Hicks wrote: Greetings: I have a bit of a problem here. The mixmaster I have set up is having problems retrieving the mlist2.txt file The address I have for it is: wget -O - http://xenophon.homeip.net/echolot/mlist2.txt mlist2 \ But this node does not

Re: MixMaster and mlist2...

2005-08-08 Thread Gregory Hicks
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Re: MixMaster and mlist2...

2005-08-06 Thread Gregory Hicks
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MixMaster and mlist2...

2005-08-05 Thread Gregory Hicks
Greetings: I have a bit of a problem here. The mixmaster I have set up is having problems retrieving the mlist2.txt file The address I have for it is: wget -O - http://xenophon.homeip.net/echolot/mlist2.txt mlist2 \ But this node does not respond. Any idea for another source of the list?

Re: MixMaster and mlist2...

2005-08-05 Thread Gregory Hicks
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Hicks ghicks To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MixMaster and mlist2... Cc: ghicks Greetings: I have a bit of a problem here. The mixmaster I have set up is having problems retrieving the mlist2.txt file Never mind. Found one and

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