Re: Gnutella scanning instead of service providers.

2001-08-26 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Gary Jeffers wrote: My fellow Cypherpunks, Ray Dillinger believes that scanning would assist oppressors as much as regular users. Joseph Ashwood agrees with this and further thinks that the Internet overhead of a scanner would be a serious problem. Not really

Re: Jim Bell sentenced to 10 years in prison

2001-08-26 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, John Young wrote: See 9-page judgment in TIF format: http://cryptome.org/jdb-hit.tif (262KB) In addition to 10 years Jim was also fined $10,000 due immediately and faces three years of probation. No computer use and a long list of other prohibitions including no

Re: FBI Tries to Set Up Brian K. West

2001-08-19 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 18 Aug -1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will someone publish the home address of the prosecuting attorney and judge issuing the warrant? There are serious risks in doing so. Having such a post linked to your meatspace identity could result in persecution - and most likely eventually

Re: NRC asks for reviewers for forthcoming Internet porn report

2001-08-15 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: Maybe, maybe not. I'm the first to agree that porn *should* be treated as equal to other speech, But 'porn' is no more speech than 'murder' is. What makes porn so offensive isn't the pictures, but the ACTS

Free kiddie porn would save a lot of kids from being abused.

2001-08-15 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Jim Choate wrote: The desire to get the 'speech' is what drives the act. To address one and ignore the other is simply not reasonable. The images should be taken as evidence of the act and then destroyed. They should not in and of themselves be left in circulation to

Re: Organized crime groups going online, report says -- beware!

2001-08-14 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: - Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - In addition, of course, organized crime groups use the Internet for communications (usually encrypted) and for any other purposes when they see it as useful and profitable. Indeed,

Re: Products Liability and Innovation. Was: Re: Traceable Infrastructure is as vulnerable as traceable messages.

2001-08-13 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Black Unicorn wrote: Do I think that software should have products liability attached to it? No. Do I think strict liability stifles innovation? No. I would actually like to make a smaller point here. Broadly I agree with BU, but I'd like to analyze it a little. If

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: (I'm surprised no one has urged me to use Lynx. Is it still being used?) Some of us still use it, but we tend not to recommend it to anyone - it has become fairly obscure and, to be honest, lots of webpages suck pretty hard when viewed through lynx. I find

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: ( I expect 98% of the readers here have no idea what a Symbolics is or was.) Heh. I would cheerfully commit a felony or two to get my hands on a Symbolics Ivory chip fabbed using modern technology and running at a GHz or so. When I was a student, we had

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 7 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: To all who have contributed ideas about turning off Java, blah blah, l wasn't really _complaining_ about my personal situation. I was noting the bizarre world of online advertising in which the right third of a page is filled with ads, the top third is

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: (Ads could be tied-in to the content, with some light crypto or copright protection. A circumvention of this liight crypto could be a DMCA violation. I would not be surprised to see this already impicated in the DVD cases: that 5 minute period of trailors

Re: Advertisements on Web Pages

2001-08-07 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Tim May wrote: Just a note about what's happening with Web advertising. Went to a site, www.imdb.com, to check something about a film. Up popped a doubleclick.net ad. In front of the main page, obscuring it. I clicked the close box. Up popped a _different_ ad. I clicked

Re: Traceable Infrastructure is as vulnerable as traceable messages.

2001-08-06 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: re: driving remops out of business I'm quite aware of the attack. It's not guaranteed successful yet. True. But it beats the snot out of guessing keys. Offhand, I'd estimate that if three US remops were taken down forcefully, and the federal law

Re: Space War

2001-08-06 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: Second, it pretty much means the US is going to have to withdraw from the space treaty of 1965, which bans space weapons. This latter is actually more interesting to me, because that treaty also bans

Re: Apollo 11 - For all mankind

2001-08-06 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Jim Choate wrote: Note the commentary about changing the budget to prevent other flags from being planted... http://www.harmonize.com/swdroundup/Apollo11.htm Note the commentary that it was strictly a symbolic activity, as the United Nations Treaty on Outer Space

Re: Gotti, evidence, case law, remailer practices, civil cases, civilit

2001-08-03 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, An Metet wrote: Your complaints about free research suggest that you have the sense that you are more valuable than or superior to other contributors. He is not superior in any substantial way; however, his expertise in law, combined with a willingness to actually discuss

Re: Traceable Infrastructure is as vulnerable as traceable messages.

2001-08-03 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Jim Choate wrote: But the only place they can trace messages in a 'small world' model is at source/destination link, which means they're already on top of you. If they're out fishing all they'd see is a bunch of packets sent between remailers with the body encrypted

Re: Crypto instructions = Bomb-making instructions

2001-07-31 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Tim May wrote: The critical point is that Congress is now in the business of criminalizing mere speech. mere research. Whether one quibbles about whether hackers understand the instructions on how to bypass crypto protections, or whether bombz d00dz understand the

Stegotext in usenet as offsite backup

2001-07-31 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's a crime to take actions specifically for the purpose of later rendering you unable to comply with a judge's order (is it?), how is escrowing it on the isle of man any different? Oddly, I've been watching this one with some interest. The

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism + 802.11b access

2001-07-28 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, David Honig wrote: You can create an executable, with source code, package it up and send it to the copyright owner with a note that says your protection is broken: here's the proof. How about dropping them a note to send an engineer to DefCon? Not a problem -- as long

Re: Weird message from someone named NIPC

2001-07-27 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Declan wrote: # # Yes, clearly I was wrong and this must be the real thing. # I urge you to start an online campaign straightaway! I'm stunned you think this is a joke. You misspelled hoax. Think about

Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers self defence

2001-07-27 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 26 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- The rear window had been smashed in when they whacked the cop with the four inch steel pipe, or when they whacked the cop with the two by four timber. so there was no problem with chucking it underhand and sideways. Plenty of room. One is

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism + 802.11b access

2001-07-27 Thread Ray Dillinger
`(3) FACTORS IN DETERMINING EXEMPTION- In determining whether a person qualifies for the exemption under paragraph (2), the factors to be considered shall include-- `(A) whether the information derived from the encryption research was disseminated, and if so, whether it was disseminated in a

Re: So, what do the Russians think?

2001-07-26 Thread Ray Dillinger
Good point. A Russian cryptographer was grabbed, unable to talk to his consulate for at least three days, and the Russians don't say anything? I smell a rat. Perhaps Dmitry was sold down the river. (Note for non-USA readers: sold down the river is an americanism for betrayal. It dates

Re: IP: The Postal Service Has Its Eye on You (fwd)

2001-07-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a link to this B form, or more exact data on it's contents? It seems a little pointless to fill out a form saying that Unknown person refused to ID for a transaction of $3000.00. This suspect was 5'8 and 125#, brn hair, brn eyes and

RE:

2001-07-23 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Petro wrote: At 11:30 PM -0700 7/22/01, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: The pressures of commercial advertising--in the sense of mass media--have been with us for as long as there has been mass media. You either deal

RE:

2001-07-22 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: It should be obvious that these riots are not so much ideologically motivated (though that's the pseudo-rational), but testosterone motivated. Most of these monkeys couldn't spell anarchy let alone understand it philosophically. Let's not confuse the

Re: CNN.com - Family remembers G8 protester - July 21, 2001

2001-07-22 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: I'm sympathetic to the deceased's family. But it strikes me that if you assault a police vehicle with armed cops inside with the evident intent to do physical harm, you'd better be wearing a bulletproof vest.

Re: [free-sklyarov] Re: Rallies on Monday

2001-07-21 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Morlock Elloi wrote: So Adobe thugs will pour out of the building sprayng crowd with machine-gun fire ? Corporate commandos will make arrests and cart them to software sweatshops ? What exactly peaceful banner-carrying demonstrators on the public grounds should be afraid of

Re: What NAI is telling people

2001-07-16 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Back to the original question: It's obvious that NAI is operating under the belief that some ISPs are complying with some unspoken BXA idea/wannabe-law and blocking encrypted messages from no-no originating domains. Is this really the case, or is

Re: Big Brother the toilet troll

2001-07-12 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, what would the price premium be for a toilet that operates as a stoolie? 10X? 20X? Don't hold your breath waiting for it to become a standard. The hell of it is, this provides a useful function. The only thing that makes it invasive is that it

Re: Taxifornia becomes interplanetary menace (fwd)

2001-07-11 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Eugene Leitl wrote: clip L.A. May Be Shot Down in Bid to Tax Satellites By Dan Whitcomb clip Auerbach insisted that he was not pushing for a tax on the satellites but was simply doing his job and trying to determine whether they should be taxed. ``I'm neutral on the

Re: lawyer physics (was taxing satellites)

2001-07-10 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Dynamite Bob wrote: quoting someone who is not participating in this discussion The property in question here is geostationary, said Larry Hoenig, a San Francisco attorney representing Hughes Electronics. Geostationary satellites sit above the equator in a fixed position;

Re: Dropping out of the USA

2001-07-10 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Jim Choate wrote: Seems to me the only answer is to keep moving, don't settle in any one country (or store your possessions in any one jurisdiction) for a lengthy stay. A couple of years max. Um, no. A couple of years would have been fine a decade ago, but these days if

TV as an indicator...

2001-07-09 Thread Ray Dillinger
I turned on a television set last night, for the first time in many months. I was watching videotapes, but I caught fragments of shows while tapes were rewinding, etc. American TV has taken a definite turn for the vicious since I last watched. It's still pablum-and-opiates, but someone has

Re: Meatspace anonymity manual

2001-07-07 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: the protection afforded by Black Blocs is quite thin (just indict them under organized crime or gang laws), The similar clothing is enough to charge with gang membership and invoke RICO. Also, the 'black bloc' tactic has 'premeditated' written all

Re: Can I reproduce out of print books?

2001-03-11 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001, A. Melon wrote: Does anyone know the law regarding duplication of out of print books/other works? It's the same law as the law regarding duplication of in-print books/other works. There are places and situations in which the enforcement varies depending on whether it's

Re: Shooting down 'Bandit Satellites'

2001-03-02 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, An Metet wrote: Suppose can-sats WERE launched illegally, and then started broadcasting time synchronisation signals/OTP/other cypherpunk related signals, along with a spoken commentary by Radio Free North America (so Joe Sixpack has an excuse when those nice detector van

Re: Consensus Actions in Cipherspace?

2001-01-13 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sat, 13 Jan 2001, dmolnar wrote: 1) To post a message, sender S takes a 2-dollar coin and then uses some kind of verifiable secret sharing protocol to split it into shares. snip 4) If a group agent thinks the message is spam, it sends its share to

Re: Consensus Actions in Cipherspace?

2001-01-12 Thread Ray Dillinger
ike it if somebody has figured out a way for a group to form consensus and act on that consensus as though it were a single individual -- capable of participating in general protocols. But individual solutions to problems like the above would be a great start. Bear

RE: cell phone anonymity

2001-01-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Phillip Zakas wrote: Just a minor correction to the below posting: cell phone locations are NOT calculated using GPS. They're triangulated via the three nearest cell sites reading the cell phone signal. Accuracy is much lower than with GPS, but good enough for cops to,

RE: cell phone anonymity

2001-01-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
in the xmit circuitry when the battery is plugged in and the power is turned off. Of course I'm having trouble putting the case back on the phone correctly but I'll figure that out later ;) phillip zakas -Original Message- X-Loop: openpgp.net From: Ray Dillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

Re: Anglo-American communications studies

2001-01-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, David Honig wrote: At 08:17 AM 1/8/01 -0500, Ken Brown wrote: and there are very few opportunities for real misunderstanding. We know The meaning of 'billion' differs by three orders of magnitude across the pond. That's plenty of room for confusion :-) And in the US,

Re: cell phone anonymity

2001-01-08 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Tim May wrote: Ray, you seem knowledgeable in some areas. But your pontifications on California basements, cellphone GPS, etc., are very "Choatean" in nature. Something you might want to look at. You can trust anything I say about Math or Programming (especially AI and

Re: CIA proctologists

2000-11-15 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: US Citizenship is required, as is successful completion of a medical evaluation, polygraph interview and an extensive background investigation. A "medical evaluation"?? http://www.odci.gov/cia/employment/jobpostings/architectstud.htm Pretty

Re: Zero Knowledge changes business model (press release)

2000-11-01 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, David Honig wrote: Although its hazardous if done wrong [cf recent PGP problems], is tarnished by the Fedz/Denning/etc, and might have no use in a personal privacy tool (your diary dies with you), isn't it too dogmatic to rule out key escrow for tools intended for use by

Filters

2000-10-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, David Honig wrote: At 08:06 PM 10/24/00 -0400, Ray Dillinger wrote: If nobody comes up with some filterware that works, then there will probably be continuing pressure to regulate content. Its called 'parenting' but most are too busy, so they ask the State, or machines

Re: judges needing killing...

2000-10-19 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, jim bell wrote: Naturally, a chemical solution (pun not directly intended...but I'll take it anyway) becomes apparent. If the ultimate motivation of the car siezures is to sell them and keep the money, what would happen if somebody acquired a few ounces or gallons of

Re: Burglar Politics, Tempesting PC's that watch TV and DVD regions

2000-10-11 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, jim bell wrote: A popular, but false, myth. The video cards radiate more than the CRT's. Laptops tend to be the worst offenders. --Lucky Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] As to the video cards... Sorry, Lucky, but you're going to have to support this a little better. Emissions

Re: Rijndael Hitachi

2000-10-11 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: The fact that some people put Medeco's in glass doors, doesn't mean Medeco should never develop a better lock. I don't have a problem with people who manufacture locks. I have a problem with the people who sell them. A sign of irrational

Re: stego for the censored

2000-10-07 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: I'm currently thinking of whether or not it is feasable to put stego data into EVERY .mp3 downloaded. just put random data into those not intended to carry a message. On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Ray Dillinger wrote: You're talking about making the audio

Re: stego for the censored

2000-10-06 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: I'm currently thinking of whether or not it is feasable to put stego data into EVERY .mp3 downloaded. just put random data into those not intended to carry a message. For the sake of us audiophiles, please don't. MP3 is tinny and flat at best; it ticks

Re: Spam free secure email accounts.

2000-10-04 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Tom Vogt wrote: same problem here: how do you find out whether or not a message is encrypted? Plaintext looks like plaintext. This isn't even a "real" problem, once you look at the text produced by, eg, PGP, GPG, and whatever else you allow on the system. You don't

Re: CDR: Re: Spam free secure email accounts.

2000-10-04 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Jim Choate wrote: On Wed, 4 Oct 2000, Ray Dillinger wrote: Plaintext looks like plaintext. Yeah, if the only thing you right is simple English. Most of the planet doesn't speak English and their plaintext doesn't necessarily look like plaintext. This is a xenophobic

Re: one time pad and random num gen

2000-10-03 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote: A cryptographically strong PRNG would then be a PRNG with a very large period and some way of reinjecting randomness to guarantee the device never begins to recycle. -- Isn't that a misnomer though? If randomness is reinjected to prevent the

Re: one time pad and random num gen

2000-10-03 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Kevin Elliott wrote: Actually if you can pull that off you've got yourself a darn fine real random number generator- any PRNG has to have some period after which it will begin to recycle (assuming no other randomness in introduced into the system), in which case you just

Re: New email could confound law enforcement

2000-09-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rival products include HushMail, ZixMail, Disappearing Inc. and Authentica. I own Disappaering Inc. We have no such product and we have no such product under development. Ray Dillinger

Re: New email could confound law enforcement

2000-09-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
t be exported, that would be a good sign. Aside from that, I don't know the particulars of the encryption they use - they claim to use a product cipher, but so far I haven't seen what the components of the product cipher are, what the key lengths are, how they do key management, etc etc etc

Re: New email could confound law enforcement

2000-09-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
the owner of the domain name "disappearing-inc.com", which I have not yet used. This pisses me off now they'll probably try to evict me as a cybersquatter. Ray Dillinger On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Ray Dillinger wrote: On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr

Re: New email could confound law enforcement

2000-09-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
server way back in April. It's scheduled to be installed on October 3. Argh, Argh, Argh Ray On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Ray Dillinger wrote: Correction: After a web search through USPTO, I find that there is another company also named Disappearing Inc,

Re: A cool idea that didn't hold up under cryptanalysis.

2000-09-22 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Marcel Popescu wrote: Would you mind writing a "tutorial for the beginner cryptanalist"? Mark Maybe in a year or so. Right now I'm working on a reference book on cryptographic protocols, and it's looking like it's gonna take a pretty major chunk of work. Meanwhile,

Can we PLEASE discuss free speech instead of content?

2000-09-19 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 01:52:54AM -0400, Jodi Hoffman wrote: And more from this "only TEENAGERS and adults" website... MASSIVE SNIP Ms. Hoffman, please stop posting this crap to the Cypherpunks list. It won't help. It is damned insulting to everyone here that you seem to expect us to

Re: VISA to smartcard the US

2000-09-13 Thread Ray Dillinger
Hmmm. These devices could be useful, even without using them as credit cards. I wonder if you could buy a batch of them from the manufacturer with custom software installed? It would sure be nice if I could make a physical key token that would render my system completely useless if the

Re: Breaking eggs

2000-08-22 Thread Ray Dillinger
I'm of the opinion that an *attempted* crime should probably be punished as a crime. The question is of action, knowledge, and intent, rather than result. I'm also of the opinion that people do not have the right to take reasonably foreseeable risks with other people's lives or property,

Re: CARNIVORE HEARINGS NOW ON C-SPAN 10:30PM PDT

2000-07-26 Thread Ray Dillinger
Declan McCullagh wrote: When it comes to maintaining the size of government or giving more money to police, there is rarely gridlock. Look at the ever-increasing FBI budgets, for instance. This should be expected, actually; In the presence of strong crypto and really good surveillence