Re: Gubmint Tests Passport RFID...

2005-08-15 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whaddya know. Thompson said something that didn't make me want to beat him to death... Too bad for you that I cannot say the same about what you write. I have a different threat model. I've reached more or less the same conclusion. Or at least,

Re: Gubmint Tests Passport RFID...

2005-08-13 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whaddya know. Thompson said something that didn't make me want to beat him to death... Too bad for you that I cannot say the same about what you write. I have a different threat model. I've reached more or less the same conclusion. Or at least,

Re: Gubmint Tests Passport RFID...

2005-08-09 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Roy M. Silvernail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And since one's passport essentially boils down to a chip, why not implant it under the skin? You say that as though it hasn't been considered. Good point. As many of us know, there are groups of

Re: Gubmint Tests Passport RFID...

2005-08-09 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Roy M. Silvernail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And since one's passport essentially boils down to a chip, why not implant it under the skin? You say that as though it hasn't been considered. Good point. As many of us know, there are groups of

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-08-08 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Steve Thompson wrote: --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pretend you hate. But there is an up-side: you're too fucking stupid to be of permanent use to the 'Stazi', and so you can anticpate outliving your

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-08-05 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Steve Thompson wrote: --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pretend you hate. But there is an up-side: you're too fucking stupid to be of permanent use to the 'Stazi', and so you can anticpate outliving your

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an old pattern to character assassins: I've attacked you publically but I really don't want to have defend what I've said or reply to suggestions about my own motivation. And psychopaths are sometimes said to accuse their victims of the

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-08-01 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's an old pattern to character assassins: I've attacked you publically but I really don't want to have defend what I've said or reply to suggestions about my own motivation. And psychopaths are sometimes said to accuse their victims of the

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-30 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, apparently you haven't been getting any of my posts to the Al-Qaeda node, otherwise the context would be clear. I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. Your motivation is quite clear enough, and any further bad-faith back-and-forth on

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-30 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, apparently you haven't been getting any of my posts to the Al-Qaeda node, otherwise the context would be clear. I'm not even going to bother with you anymore. Your motivation is quite clear enough, and any further bad-faith back-and-forth on

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This premise, however, depends somewhat on the observation that the so-called left and right-wing divisions of the political spectrum are largely illusory. The most strident critics of diametric political opposites in the press and elsewhere would

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-27 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This premise, however, depends somewhat on the observation that the so-called left and right-wing divisions of the political spectrum are largely illusory. The most strident critics of diametric political opposites in the press and elsewhere would

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-26 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steve Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want... Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:01:30 -0400 (EDT) --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'm sure most are aware that random searches

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-26 Thread Steve Thompson
--- John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 23, 2005 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want... ... Saw a local security expert on the news, and he stated the obvious: Random earches and

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-25 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Steve Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want... Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:01:30 -0400 (EDT) --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'm sure most are aware that random searches

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-25 Thread Steve Thompson
--- John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Jul 23, 2005 9:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Well, they got what they want... ... Saw a local security expert on the news, and he stated the obvious: Random earches and

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-24 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'm sure most are aware that random searches has begun here in NYC, at subway stations and in the LIRR. Contraband (drugs, etc...) can get the owner arrested. The next step, of course, will be to start grabbing anyone carrying terrorist

Re: Well, they got what they want...

2005-07-23 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I'm sure most are aware that random searches has begun here in NYC, at subway stations and in the LIRR. Contraband (drugs, etc...) can get the owner arrested. The next step, of course, will be to start grabbing anyone carrying terrorist

Re: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

2005-05-12 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah...it's pretty fuckin' pointless. Tantamount to proving a guy pointing a gun at you is actually pointing a gun at you, TO the guy pointing the gun at you. Oh, I don't know about that. What about proving that someone is pointing a [gun] at

Re: [rationalchatter] Interesting Trial - IRS trial - July 11th (fwd)

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah...it's pretty fuckin' pointless. Tantamount to proving a guy pointing a gun at you is actually pointing a gun at you, TO the guy pointing the gun at you. Oh, I don't know about that. What about proving that someone is pointing a [gun] at

Re: Stash Burn?

2005-05-08 Thread Steve Thompson
--- A.Melon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Steve Thompson scribbled: --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [incinerating the evidence] What's wrong with this idea? The Alabama hillbilly remains free to harass you the next time you pass through the area. Don't you think it's a little

Re: zombied ypherpunks (Re: Email Certification?)

2005-05-08 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then, of course, in the off chance they can't actually break the message under that flag, they can merely send a guy out with binoculars or whatever. Don't forget about rubber-hose cryptanlysis. Rumour has it that method is preferred in

Re: zombied ypherpunks (Re: Email Certification?)

2005-05-08 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then, of course, in the off chance they can't actually break the message under that flag, they can merely send a guy out with binoculars or whatever. Don't forget about rubber-hose cryptanlysis. Rumour has it that method is preferred in

Re: Stash Burn?

2005-05-08 Thread Steve Thompson
--- A.Melon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Steve Thompson scribbled: --- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [incinerating the evidence] What's wrong with this idea? The Alabama hillbilly remains free to harass you the next time you pass through the area. Don't you think it's a little

RE: zombied ypherpunks (Re: Email Certification?)

2005-05-03 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, they could just tune in on Echelon, which really seems to be reality. There is no need for infinite resources to do such a thing. Echelon ain't a radio, and not all members of TLAs have access. Indeed, you can be damn sure that they are very

Re: Stash Burn?

2005-05-03 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, this reminded me of another brilliant idea. Why don't some cars have a little tiny furnace for stash destruction? If you've got an on-board stash and some Alabama hillbilly with a badge pulls you over, you just hit the button and have you're

Re: Bypassing Local Authorities

2005-04-27 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hum. Been thinking about something. Seems to me that the big TLAs will probably try to avoid detection, whenever possible, by even local authorities such as Police, security companies, etc...One of these could inadvertently (or 'advertently'!)

Re: End of a cypherpunk era?

2005-03-07 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Still, if we could achieve mutual respect and freedom in the physical world, we would happily pay the price of increased rudeness online. Speak for yourself. Regards, Steve

Re: End of a cypherpunk era?

2005-03-06 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Still, if we could achieve mutual respect and freedom in the physical world, we would happily pay the price of increased rudeness online. Speak for yourself. Regards, Steve

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-17 Thread Steve Thompson
[snip] Agreements and accords such as the Berne convention and the DCMA, to say nothing of human-rights legislation, are hobbled by the toothlessness of enforcement, pulic apathy to others' rights, and a load of convenient exceptions to such rules made for the agents of state. Okay.

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-17 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Property is like rights. We create it inherently, because we're human, it is not bestowed upon us by someone else. Particularly if that property is stolen from someone else at tax-time. Bzzt. I call you on your bullshit. Supposedly by

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-17 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-02-16T13:31:14-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: --- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Property is like rights. We create it inherently, because we're human, it is not bestowed upon us by someone else. Particularly

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-17 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-02-15T13:23:37-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: --- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] As governments were created to smash property rights, they are always everywhere necessarily the enemy of those with property

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-16 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-02-15T13:23:37-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: --- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] As governments were created to smash property rights, they are always everywhere necessarily the enemy of those with property

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-16 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Property is like rights. We create it inherently, because we're human, it is not bestowed upon us by someone else. Particularly if that property is stolen from someone else at tax-time. Bzzt. I call you on your bullshit. Supposedly by

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-16 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2005-02-16T13:31:14-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: --- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Property is like rights. We create it inherently, because we're human, it is not bestowed upon us by someone else. Particularly

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-16 Thread Steve Thompson
[snip] Agreements and accords such as the Berne convention and the DCMA, to say nothing of human-rights legislation, are hobbled by the toothlessness of enforcement, pulic apathy to others' rights, and a load of convenient exceptions to such rules made for the agents of state. Okay.

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-15 Thread Steve Thompson
--- ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James A. Donald wrote: The state was created to attack private property rights - to steal stuff. Some rich people are beneficiaries, but from the beginning, always at the expense of other rich people. More commonly states defend the rich against the

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-15 Thread Steve Thompson
--- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] As governments were created to smash property rights, they are always everywhere necessarily the enemy of those with property, and the greatest enemy of those with the most property. Uh-huh. Perhaps you are using the term 'government' in

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-15 Thread Steve Thompson
--- ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James A. Donald wrote: The state was created to attack private property rights - to steal stuff. Some rich people are beneficiaries, but from the beginning, always at the expense of other rich people. More commonly states defend the rich against the

Re: Hack License

2005-02-10 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted: http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/03/issue/review_hack.asp?p=0 Hack License By Simson Garfinkel March 2005 [snip] Stallman wrote in 1985, the golden rule requires that if I like a program I must share it with other people who like it.

Re: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-09 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 09:09:56AM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: There is nothing stopping you from writing your own operating system, so Linus did. Yes. Corporate lawyers descending upon your ass, because you -- allegedly -- are in violation

RE: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-07 Thread Steve Thompson
Anonymous wrote: I challenge anyone here to answer the question of what it means to be a cypherpunk. What are your goals? What is your philosophy? Do you In this day and age, do you realy expect anyone to answer questions like that openly and honestly? Really. There's a similar and simple

Re: Jim Bell WMD Threat

2005-02-07 Thread Steve Thompson
--- John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FBI continues to claim Jim Bell is a WMD threat despite having no case against him except in the media, but that conforms to current FBI/DHS policy of fictionalizing homeland threats.

Re: Jim Bell WMD Threat

2005-02-06 Thread Steve Thompson
--- John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FBI continues to claim Jim Bell is a WMD threat despite having no case against him except in the media, but that conforms to current FBI/DHS policy of fictionalizing homeland threats.

RE: What is a cypherpunk?

2005-02-06 Thread Steve Thompson
Anonymous wrote: I challenge anyone here to answer the question of what it means to be a cypherpunk. What are your goals? What is your philosophy? Do you In this day and age, do you realy expect anyone to answer questions like that openly and honestly? Really. There's a similar and simple

Re: [i2p] weekly status notes [feb 1] (fwd from jrandom@i2p.net)

2005-02-02 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Forwarded message from jrandom [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: jrandom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:03:02 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [i2p] weekly status notes [feb 1] [snip] Thats all I have for the moment (good thing

RE: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-02 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as it comes out of the TCG, this is almost certainly the enabling hardware for Palladium/NGSCB. Its a part of your computer which you may not have full control over. Well we all know that having complete control over one's own computer is far

RE: Dell to Add Security Chip to PCs

2005-02-02 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seeing as it comes out of the TCG, this is almost certainly the enabling hardware for Palladium/NGSCB. Its a part of your computer which you may not have full control over. Well we all know that having complete control over one's own computer is far

Re: [i2p] weekly status notes [feb 1] (fwd from jrandom@i2p.net)

2005-02-02 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Forwarded message from jrandom [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: jrandom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:03:02 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [i2p] weekly status notes [feb 1] [snip] Thats all I have for the moment (good thing

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
Speaking of mistakes I seem to have pasted the wrong message text when I sent my reply to Mr. Trei. I regret the unfortunate duplication and consequent waste of list bandwidth. --- --- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [mistake rate] If, in a capital case, where

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [mistake rate] And of course there's the fairly obvious point that lots of those in prison correctly are there for drug-related crimes. Said crimes would almost completely dissappear and drug usage would drop if many of those drugs were

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder --- Tyler

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-28 Thread Steve Thompson
Speaking of mistakes I seem to have pasted the wrong message text when I sent my reply to Mr. Trei. I regret the unfortunate duplication and consequent waste of list bandwidth. --- --- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [mistake rate] If, in a capital case, where

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Steve Thompson Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder --- Tyler

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [mistake rate] And of course there's the fairly obvious point that lots of those in prison correctly are there for drug-related crimes. Said crimes would almost completely dissappear and drug usage would drop if many of those drugs were

RE: Ronald McDonald's SS

2005-01-26 Thread Steve Thompson
--- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- On 24 Jan 2005 at 10:34, Tyler Durden wrote: Military and civilian participants said in interviews that the new unit has been operating in secret for two years -- in Iraq (news - web sites), Well hell, it's doing such a good job

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-26 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [airport security] More indications of an emerging 'Brazil' scenario, as opposed to a hyper-intelligent super-fascist state. As if. There already is a kind of intelligent super-fascist state in place thoughout much of society. My bugbears of the

RE: Gripes About Airport Security Grow Louder

2005-01-25 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [airport security] More indications of an emerging 'Brazil' scenario, as opposed to a hyper-intelligent super-fascist state. As if. There already is a kind of intelligent super-fascist state in place thoughout much of society. My bugbears of the

Re: Vive le rubber 'ose: 'The Interrogators' and 'Torture': Hard Questions

2005-01-24 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://nytimes.com/2005/01/23/books/review/23KAPLAN.html?pagewanted=printposition= The New York Times January 23, 2005 'The Interrogators' and 'Torture': Hard Questions By ROBERT D. KAPLAN [snip] What a load of shit. The reality of today

RE: Ronald McDonald's SS

2005-01-24 Thread Steve Thompson
--- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- On 24 Jan 2005 at 10:34, Tyler Durden wrote: Military and civilian participants said in interviews that the new unit has been operating in secret for two years -- in Iraq (news - web sites), Well hell, it's doing such a good job

Re: Vive le rubber 'ose: 'The Interrogators' and 'Torture': Hard Questions

2005-01-24 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://nytimes.com/2005/01/23/books/review/23KAPLAN.html?pagewanted=printposition= The New York Times January 23, 2005 'The Interrogators' and 'Torture': Hard Questions By ROBERT D. KAPLAN [snip] What a load of shit. The reality of today

Re: Cpunk Sighting

2005-01-23 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:12 PM 1/21/05 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: John Young, Cryptome strikes again. NPR is running a story on all of the sensitive information available. Funny shit! LATimes ran something too! And even included a link to the

Re: Cpunk Sighting

2005-01-22 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 04:12 PM 1/21/05 -0600, J.A. Terranson wrote: John Young, Cryptome strikes again. NPR is running a story on all of the sensitive information available. Funny shit! LATimes ran something too! And even included a link to the

Re: Carnivore No More

2005-01-19 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote: it is believed that unspecified commercial surveillance tools are employed now. It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with. The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take

Re: Carnivore No More

2005-01-19 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:31 AM +0100 1/16/05, Eugen Leitl wrote: it is believed that unspecified commercial surveillance tools are employed now. It was always AGGroup's Skyline package to begin with. The FBI is like NASA. They never build anything, and take

Re: Brin needs killing, XIIV

2005-01-14 Thread Steve Thompson
To leave the attributions and headers, or not? --- Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Forwarded message from David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:02:03 -0500 To: Ip ip@v2.listbox.com Subject: [IP] more on No

Re: Brin needs killing, XIIV

2005-01-14 Thread Steve Thompson
To leave the attributions and headers, or not? --- Eugen Leitl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Forwarded message from David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 04:02:03 -0500 To: Ip ip@v2.listbox.com Subject: [IP] more on No

Re: [IP] Cell phones for eavesdropping

2005-01-04 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cell phones for eavesdropping - finally some public chatter Of course, the low-budget govt snoops go for the basestations and landline links. Oh, I don't know about that. What would it cost a

Re: [IP] Cell phones for eavesdropping

2005-01-04 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cell phones for eavesdropping - finally some public chatter Of course, the low-budget govt snoops go for the basestations and landline links. Oh, I don't know about that. What would it cost a

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-22 Thread Steve Thompson
The subject header is very nice. --- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several points come to mind: (1) Mr. Monahan seems to think that lies on police reports are an artifact of 9/11. Welcome to the real world Mr. Monahan. You say that like it's a bad thing. The real world, that

Re: Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

2004-12-22 Thread Steve Thompson
The subject header is very nice. --- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Several points come to mind: (1) Mr. Monahan seems to think that lies on police reports are an artifact of 9/11. Welcome to the real world Mr. Monahan. You say that like it's a bad thing. The real world, that

Re: Steve Thompson

2004-12-15 Thread Steve Thompson
as to what relation Mr. Erickson's possible stoopidity has to the topic at hand, which is (if we are to take the message at face value), that he is concerned with a complaint about a bad eBay sale, which is the responsibility of someone using the name Steve Thompson, and which was made to Cypherpunks

Re: Steve Thompson

2004-12-14 Thread Steve Thompson
as to what relation Mr. Erickson's possible stoopidity has to the topic at hand, which is (if we are to take the message at face value), that he is concerned with a complaint about a bad eBay sale, which is the responsibility of someone using the name Steve Thompson, and which was made to Cypherpunks

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin Guyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004-12-11T08:10:27-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: [snip] This is what happens when one picks up ideas from people who present them second-hand (or at even greater distances from their origin) and who do not make proper footnotes. That's

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: The more serious problem is what this means for computer evidence search and seizure procedures - the US has some official rules about copy the disk and return the computer that came out of the Steve

Re: Steve Thompson

2004-12-13 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of things. But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to move the other. http://groups

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-12 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Bill Stewart wrote: The more serious problem is what this means for computer evidence search and seizure procedures - the US has some official rules about copy the disk and return the computer that came out of the Steve

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-12 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin Guyett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004-12-11T08:10:27-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: [snip] This is what happens when one picks up ideas from people who present them second-hand (or at even greater distances from their origin) and who do not make proper footnotes. That's

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004-12-10T15:50:22-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: [snip] state's personality, the state has the right, nay, obligation to preserve its identity unchanged. (Isn't this pretty much polysci 101 material?) Not typically. The idea that the state has

Re: Steve Thompson

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Anonymous via the Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer wrote: Out of nowhere cometh Steve Thompson, and sayeth he all manner of things. But, while his mouth moveth one way, he seemeth to move the other. http://groups

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: [take back the night] Yep, the state fights to preserve its life while the people suffer their own. The mistake of top down thinking lies in the inability to really model large populations with rules, too much

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: [take back the night] Yep, the state fights to preserve its life while the people suffer their own. The mistake of top down thinking lies in the inability to really model large populations with rules, too much

Re: tempest back doors

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am stupid. I don't know how one would go about modifying application software to include a 'back door' that would presumably enhance its suceptibility to TEMPEST attacks. Isn't tempest all about EM spectrum signal detection and

Re: Word Of the Subgenius...

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [May] Maybe, maybe not. The thing I always find interesting and annoying about Tim May's posts is that he's sometimes making really clearly thought out, intelligent points, and other times spewing out nonsense so crazy you can't believe it's coming

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Justin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2004-12-10T15:50:22-0500, Steve Thompson wrote: [snip] state's personality, the state has the right, nay, obligation to preserve its identity unchanged. (Isn't this pretty much polysci 101 material?) Not typically. The idea that the state has

Re: Word Of the Subgenius...

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Sounds like a fuckin' party, if you ask me! Quit bogartin' that J... Oh, sure. It wasn't all bad. Just ask the chick who is known in certain circles as Nefertiti. (That's her code-name). We had an excellent time together; or at least we

Re: Timing Paranoia

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Roy M. Silvernail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: [imagine] Imagine using observed timing to conclude that your agent provocateur operates from geostationary orbit. That would be a neat trick considering the variety of likely signal path lengths to be found

Re: tangled contexts

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Process and perception [snip] We have lots of timing to tap. Response times, flicker fusion times, saccades, pulse, peristalsis, menstruation. The royal road to cognitive illumination is the path of chronus. If you go about tapping the

Re: Timing Paranoia

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the tools currently being used in the cognitive sciences is the measurement of reaction time to stimulus. What's this? The cognitive equivalent to wacking someone on the knee with a rubber hammer to measure the mentak kick reflex of

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: [assholes] You tell them, Steve I believe I just did. Insanity is a great cover for an insurectionist! I suppose it could be, although I am give to belive that residents of the White Room Hotel may only carry out

Re: Word Of the Subgenius...

2004-12-11 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote: snip one of the funniest posts in recent cpunk history (STANDING OVATION) (SOUNDS OF MANY HANDS CLAPPING) Thank you Steve, for that short but entertaining look into the dark recesses of our

Re: Word Of the Subgenius...

2004-12-10 Thread Steve Thompson
--- J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Steve Thompson wrote: snip one of the funniest posts in recent cpunk history (STANDING OVATION) (SOUNDS OF MANY HANDS CLAPPING) Thank you Steve, for that short but entertaining look into the dark recesses of our

Re: Blinky Rides Again: RCMP suspect al-Qaida messages

2004-12-10 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: [assholes] You tell them, Steve I believe I just did. Insanity is a great cover for an insurectionist! I suppose it could be, although I am give to belive that residents of the White Room Hotel may only carry out

Re: Timing Paranoia

2004-12-10 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Roy M. Silvernail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: [imagine] Imagine using observed timing to conclude that your agent provocateur operates from geostationary orbit. That would be a neat trick considering the variety of likely signal path lengths to be found

Re: tangled contexts

2004-12-10 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Process and perception [snip] We have lots of timing to tap. Response times, flicker fusion times, saccades, pulse, peristalsis, menstruation. The royal road to cognitive illumination is the path of chronus. If you go about tapping the

Re: Word Of the Subgenius...

2004-12-10 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Tyler Durden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Sounds like a fuckin' party, if you ask me! Quit bogartin' that J... Oh, sure. It wasn't all bad. Just ask the chick who is known in certain circles as Nefertiti. (That's her code-name). We had an excellent time together; or at least we

Re: Insurrectionist covers

2004-12-10 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Thompson wrote: --- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Colouring outside the lines] Yes, you have a point there.I guess a better cover would be as local coordinator of Neighborhood Watch c.f. Take back the night, et

Re: Timing Paranoia

2004-12-09 Thread Steve Thompson
--- R.W. (Bob) Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the tools currently being used in the cognitive sciences is the measurement of reaction time to stimulus. What's this? The cognitive equivalent to wacking someone on the knee with a rubber hammer to measure the mentak kick reflex of

Re: tempest back doors

2004-12-09 Thread Steve Thompson
--- Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I am stupid. I don't know how one would go about modifying application software to include a 'back door' that would presumably enhance its suceptibility to TEMPEST attacks. Isn't tempest all about EM spectrum signal detection and

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