My guess for mark : derived from an old accounting method of marks on
sticks or paper.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23057.html
Eric Chien, chief researcher at Symantec's antivirus research lab,
said that provided a hypothetical keystroke logging tool was used only
by the FBI, then Symantec would avoid updating its antivirus tools to
Sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Great and wonderful except:
1. If such spyware has already been installed on your system you can't
trust your os therefore:
[snip]
Yes - end of story.
2. Any hard drive you can access so can they. They can patch your
disk:
[snip]
The only way I can think of
!Dr. Joe Baptista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Where did this bullshit come from? Did someone take a ravioli recipe and
do some search and replace?
Is Dr. Joe Baptista really Jim Choate in disguise?
My favorite short quote :
The trick is to bring the U-235 masses together at the same time.
True. The DC cypherpunks are thinking of changing their name to
something
more cuddly.
Harmless Little Nerds?
Cryptotubbies?
Happy Fun Infosec Society?
Much too 1990s. These times suit more loyal-sounding names. Programmers
Rally Against Terrorism?
Programmer's Association for Liberty
Ken Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
1) I thought spherical shells were the usual geometry?
2) It sure as hell looks like it's time to start creating private
archives of public data and seeing to it that the data are propagated.
Sneakernet revisited only now with CD's instead of floppies.
Roy M. Silvernail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On 19 Nov 2001, at 19:43, Ken Brown wrote:
Much too 1990s. These times suit more loyal-sounding names.
Programmers Rally Against Terrorism?
I wonder how many non-Brits will get this...
--
Roy M. Silvernail
Proprietor, scytale.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Golly gee willikers, you mean it's not all beard-shaving,
turban-tossing, music and dancing in the streets? You mean our own news
agencies were just spewing propaganda? Now ain't that a surprise? Why do
you suppose they would do that?
Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Tim wrote:
Several of us were in the Sierras this past weekend for a training
session on weapons use, explosives, terrorism measures, and methods for
monkey wrenching the U.S. government so as to paralyze its police state
moves.
For security reasons, the
What a guy!
Abraham Lincoln :
Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can
exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their
revolutionary right to dismember or
overthrow it.
President Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address (available at
OK, you got me, so I'm guilty of that political trick of ignoring the
broader picture and using only partial facts in support of my own narrow
point of view. sosumi ;)
The words, taken on their own, are fine words and I stick by the bit
about a government's willingness to persecute dissidents
matt . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Science project? omg shut the hell up. For all we know, your probably some
crazed arab going on a suicide spree
By the name perhaps a Basque Separatist is more likely.
From: coretta fontenot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I make an explosive? its cause that's my
Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Saw this interesting application of the new hardware
copyright/anti-tampering/anti-reverse-engineering regime in place
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011107/tc/sony_robot_hack_1.html
This shows how crazy the laws have gotten. These robots are essentially
read it. the alternatives are not quite as cheap or plentiful or
accessible as the Middle East and if many oil eaters start looking away
from the ME there will be other problems too
David Honig wrote:
At 10:33 AM 11/7/01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mainlining petroleum has helped put
cpaul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Witnesses also said they saw a U.S. plane drop a bomb Tuesday
at the Bagram front lines, about 25 miles north of Kabul,
creating a mushroom cloud that billowed at least 1,000 feet
into the air.
Any sense in blacklisting IP ranges and refusing connections?
OK. Yer an equal opportunity provider. Bandwidth costs money, yes? Ask
the botniks to register and send them automated tgz update packages
monthly, weekly, whatever. Paid protection might be cheaper than being
robbed. Do you accept anonymous donations?
Well, I was watching CNN and it looks like the Postal workers now are
armed with a new weapon.. Against terror of course. THe whole cant read
someone elses mail thing is out the window it looks like, they can spray
this go on the letter and read through the envelope.. It seems
implausable
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On 30 Oct 2001, at 14:51, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
Mike [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
I would bet that there is SOMETHING that
is dissolved by liquid freon. Just mark
your letters with the stuff and look for
the integrity of the mark at the other end.
Or... is
Tim,
Re: the death of the fourth.
Yer list is too short.
R.I.P. : I, IV, V, VI, VIII
The obit may be premature but they're certainly on their respective
deathbeds. Don't expect the docs from the Judicial branch to effect a
cure - they've administered some pretty nearly lethal doses in the
Greg,
Welcome to America's New Era.
Goebels, Himmler and the rest of the team are reincarnated.
Welcome back to meatspace Gentlemen, it's been far too long!
What organizations will be challenging the Constitutionality of at least
sections of the soon to be recent Gestapo Act?
Who has
Neil Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
What's this then?
http://www.tactronix.com/s100.htm
-MW-
Looks like a nicely rendered computer image of the proposed device (somebody
there is good with POV-Ray?).
-Neil
Too expensive.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
This has got to be the single scariest thing I have *ever* read from any
government official. After reading this, I doubt that the nuclear
winter comments that have been bandied about are going to be very far off
their mark...
It especially terrifying to note that
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Personally I'd prefer a non-colonial foreign policy that doesn't generate
such antipathy.
The message of the WTC is this: regular ole' non-mil sheeple *are* held
responsible for
the actions of their government. *Even* in the US. What a concept.
I
You seem to have left out the fact that the single largest player in the
market today is the government. The security measures that are now in
place for air travel are IMHO an abuse by regulators that amounts to
using a private actor as a proxy for an illegal search : to whit names,
flight
Shit, so much for ordering mushroom spores by mail!
Hopefully UPS and fedex won't follow suit.
Another option might be for each package to be dropped into a poly bag,
heat sealed and rinsed before being handled by staff.
Our society has, for all practical purposes, endless vulnerabilities.
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Mon, Oct 22, 2001 at 08:50:01PM -0700, Tim May wrote:
Yes, but this is one of those manufactured, utterly implausible
situations. I cannot think of a single instance where a suspect had this
kind of knowledge, with this kind of stakes, and with
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
fishing through wreckage for a crumpled black box recorder seems pretty
old fashioned, too.
30K planes in the air before; maybe 20K now (or 30K 2/3rds full..).
Lots of data from mobile senders. [Yes, some of the 30K are too small to
be interesting.]
http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/18/ashcroft.tips/index.html
4. Someone who appears to be concealing something
or attempting to put something over on somebody
Does this mean that witholding your zipcode from the overinquisitive
sales clerk will get you on a list?
Any attempts
Was I hearing things or did China stop issuing visas for people from 22
middle eastern countries? Thought I heard it, can't find it.
Mike
Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
At 03:13 PM 10/19/2001 -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote:
/me retreats to iron w/ thermometer.
Black and Decker Light 'n' Easy iron, cotton dishtowl (folded quarto),
Good Cook dial thermometer inserted under top fold. With four
minutes' preheat, temperature is
I fooled around with the filtering but the source data is pure crap.
It's a low quality JPEG and there are artifacts everywhere, especially
around the towers and the rider. Has anyone found better source
material : higher resolution, lower quantization?
BTW - there's lots more art, mostly
Harmon Seaver wrote:
Yup, play around with light-sound machines and biofeedback for
awhile, you definitely can learn to control your brain waves. This TRT,
however, is still pretty scary -- especially if, as they claim, it's
allowed as court evidence. Don't know how they could
Declan,
The authoritarian streak is wide and deep ain't it? Every time I hear
Bush talk about protecting freedom I feel nauseous.
Which bill?
Is this bill referring to annyone carrying cash within the borders or to
people crossing the borders?
There are already customs regulations with a $10k
Dr. Evil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
This brings to mind something which would be a very cool project: Have
a digital camera that public key encrypts the photos before storing
them. Obviously the private key would be stored in some other safe
place, so if the camera is stolen, no one can see
An Metet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Nomen wrote:
According to collected data, the average speed in 30 mph zones ranged
from 35.5 to 46 mph. In the 35 mph zones, the average speed was about 43
mph. The highest speed, clocked by Colonial Estates East Citizens on
Patrol group, was 62 mph in a
Don't you hate it when the issues are tangled. It would much nicer if
there were a clean and simple case of free speech but no, it has to be
impure. OTOH the police could be lying about the firecracker and the
struggle knowing that the Constitutional issue is clear ( today anyway )
and wanting to
On 9-11 I was awake at 5:30 AM PST reading the paper and watching CNN.
Predictably I was glued to the news until past noon. When I finally made
it into work I was here about an hour or two when I was told that
someone had phoned in a bomb threat. The official advice from the PD was
essentially
This discussion about talking to the FBI has me ROTFLMAO. I feel like
I'm watching a John Wayne movie with its simplified moral categories of
good and evil. Why not say that cooperation is dependent upon the
situation? Exercise your judgement.
Witness to a hit and run :
I wrote the make,
Yawn...
xganon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Hmm lets outlaw gelatin capsules on the grounds that they facilitate
turning human finger and toenails very hard and allow the use of same
as weapons(it does NOT take very much to tear the caratoid artery open)
Don't you mean carotid?
same for
CDR: Re: Intercepts foretold of 'big attack' -- The Washington Times
John Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Bill Gertz has received an extraordinary number of leaked
documents. Most of those occurred during the Clinton era
when national security mongerers opposed to Clinton's
policies leaked top
Steve,
I read it a few days ago. I think that it will take a decade or two to
be widely accepted.
I'm betting that the standard method of management by crisis will be how
our country deals with the end of oil whether the writer is corrrect or
not about the date.
Mike
Steve Schear wrote:
At
Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NB : I'm not opposed to drilling Alaskan oil - after Kuwait runs dry...
I am. Find another way other than killing the Polar Bears (they have to
helicopter them around the N. pole each year so they don't starve),
Jim Choate wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:40:27PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it true that Gregg is giving up? Has someone told him that his ATM,
his browser and his garage door opener would be outlawed?
Depends on whether
Eric Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Lots of media are running survey questions asking if
the US should ban strong cryptography.
Here is a more honest survey:
1. Are you willing to ban strong cryptography so the FBI, CIA, NSA etc.
can listen in on potential terrorists, and jail Americans
Heavy Stuff.
Puts to shame my GoodIdea of handing a basket of Official Major League
Baseballs to each airline passenger upon boarding. Let's see a homicidal
maniac with a toenail clipper stand up to that.
Mike
Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 11:46:06AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We in the choir agree.
Now how are you going to get those in congress ( who prefer to be 99.9%
fact-free ) to see it your way?
Probably not worth the effort. They'll do what they want, no
Declan McCullagh wrote:
I managed to get an outline of the emergency anti-terrorism bill.
Wiretap, FISA, immigration, court procedure, etc.
But no encryption restrictions listed.
-Declan
Is it true that Gregg is giving up? Has someone told him that his ATM,
his browser and his garage
An Metet [EMAIL PROTECTED] pontificated :
Frissy whined:
As I said to some one the other day, If this is war no smoking regulations.
SWmoke 'em if nyou've got 'em.
DCF.
Fuck that noise. If this is war it means I get to blow your stupid
ass away if you blow smoke in my direction.
Has the fact that a disaster occurred changed much? The US was always
vulnerable, now the general population knows it. I'm expecting war in
the Middle East and reprisals in the States. There is not a great deal
anyone can do about it.
As for the fallout of Tuesday's events, well...the heart of
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 06:00:46PM +0200, Nomen Nescio wrote:
Some terrorists have exactly this as their goal. They are hoping
to trigger a counter-reaction, an over-reaction, by the authorities.
They want to see a crackdown on liberties, a police
Well, I'm not totally retarded but I still don't always follow JYA that
well. I'll keep trying.
Did the OH guy have a lawyer? If so, did he follow the advice he was
given?
While I would not myself send the guy to prison for his writings however
goofy or sick I may find them, a person who
Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 10:59:54AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sure, I mention it because despite its being non-functional and
unpunishable it seemed to have been brought into the courtroom with the
purpose of spicing up the case.
Sure. If you commit
Tim,
It's not easy to find great links but I still say that speech + action
is something that a prosecutor can use to the disadvantage of the
accused even if the speech is legal and the action appears to be
ineffectual or undirected. Look at how AP was used. 18 U.S.C. 23 1 seems
to link speech
Tim May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Which is why I asked for you some actual cases. I pointed out that--so
far as I have heard--there have been _no_ prosecutions for paramilitary
training. (There may have been some paramilitary types busted for
firing AK-47s, for trespassing, whatever. This is
Duncan Frissell wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All I said was that actions can have unintended consequences. Make well
considered choices. Look at the power industry deregulation in CA. Too
much, too quickly and poorly crafted. By all means let's improve the
To : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Learn to read poopyhead (isn't that now the official CP insult?).
Actually, I think the currently hip term would be twit :-)
Dunno, I've seen both recently. Just trying to live up to my slave
training and conform.
Look at the part you snipped :
I'm not saying
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 05:28:24PM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote:
For Tim:
Why are you attempting to provoke public discussion about things
that could get people jailed or worse for discussing them? It's
interesting to see you post your sweet spot
Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Adam wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:02:54AM -0700, Tim May wrote:
| Alas, the marketing of such dissident-grade untraceability is
| difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also
| pedophile-grade, money launderer-grade, freedom
Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:42:24PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bear may not be as far off the mark as you think. Remember back when the
hot news of the day was militia groups how advocating the violent
overthrow of the government and playing soldier in the
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
At 09:13 AM 8/29/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2001/8/28/1868/27867
I've been reading the cover article in Time magazine about home
schooling, and it makes me wonder. One of the primary questions the
article poses is
It remains a challenge to identify groups that are both (A) wealthy, (B)
in need of anonymity technologies, and (C) morally acceptable to support.
Freedom fighters don't fit all that well, in today's world.
Corporate Executives A, B, sort of C
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyKey=64513category=C
What was she so afraid of? Aerial rape? I was just pissed off when the
shitheads would fly over as low as they could. I've seen A10's,
helicopters and fighters. They're really annoying when you're trying to
cast a fly and
http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/avcom/psa-65Cspecanal.htm
Not cheap but within reach. If someone gets serious I could get advice
about equipment and methods from a friend who did this sort of testing
for years.
If you don't have a Faraday cage and a spectrum analyzer and you still
want a
Lots of shielding products are available.
Whole rooms :
http://www.emctest.com/
A complete test setup :
http://www.emctest.com/onsale.cfm
Cu tape :
http://www.2spi.com/catalog/spec_prep/5tapes.html
Cu foil, cheap, no adhesive :
http://www.glassmart.com/regular_foil.asp
Cu Sheet :
One simple comment.
Below.
Bill Stewart wrote :
At 04:45 AM 08/23/2001 -0700, David Honig wrote:
Faustine, look up Faraday cages, TEMPEST, and search the archives.
As if you didn't know. Succinctly, the electron gas in metals shields you
from the electromagnetic antics of distant, radiating
OK Links.
http://aerial.evsc.virginia.edu/~jlm8h/class/quant1.html
http://www.phy.duke.edu/Courses/100/lectures/Statistics/Sta.html#photon
http://newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99525.htm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
On 14 Aug 2001, at 17:34, Gabriel Rocha wrote:
Taming the Web
By Charles C. Mann September 2001
Information wants to be free. The Internet can't be controlled.
We've heard it so often that we sometimes take for granted that it's
true. But THE INTERNET CAN BE
Quite a collection :
callous indifference to human life
disregard of justice
carelessness
neglect of duty
gross incompetence.
donut-chomping incompetent Barney-Fife-clone imbecile
third-rate
underfunded
knuckledraggers
commie symps
panda huggers
corruption
laziness
irresponsibility
I'm quite aware of the attack. It's not guaranteed successful yet. If
you've paid attention to our lawyers recently it sounds like the battle
is sporadic and the outcome mixed.
Until the heavy hand wipes out remailers the fate of an individual
message is interesting. So as of even date being
Ray Dillinger wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the idea of making a remailer part of a worm but it might be just
as well to make it an inherent part of a product since people will
attempt to eradicate a worm.
And succeed. How many copies of melissa have you
Maybe it doesn't matter if the missile defense system that is ultimately
deployed ( or not ) works ( or not ) as long as many billions are spent
in the process. Charging straight to the techie issues like bulls for
the red cape and missing the proud, smiling matador - Ole!
I keep seeing words like bona fide and legitimate used as modifiers
for cryptographic researcher. The DMCA states :
(3)(B) whether the person is engaged in a legitimate course of study, is
employed, or is appropriately trained or experienced, in the field of
encryption technology; and
Isn't
Seems like a regular herd of senior FBI guys wind up at MBNA when
they're ready to amass some capitol for retirement. What are the origins
of the company?
http://www.cptryon.org/compassion/spr99/fbi.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RuMills/message/367
I think there are several actions and states mixed up here and it makes
it difficult to extract the most pertinent opinions. I'm as guilty as
anyone of mixing the stuff together. I'll try to be more specific this
time.
Let's start with the type of information the TX reporter might have.
This
I'm really not completely clued-in to all of the publishing options but
my gut instinct says that the more rapid and widespread the dispersal
the better. The originator of proscribed information needs to be
anonymous but it seems that if the recipients are many and diverse then
the level of guilt
Declan,
The larger problem notwithstanding there's at least one little bit of
language in this piece that is odd :
He said the government is
seeking all of Leggett's
material, including all
originals and copies.
Even if we make the extreme assumption that there is some pressing
Black Unicorn wrote:
Looks like a reporter ( or anyone else for that matter ) should keep
well hidden backups of their notes and work so that they can comply with
Napolean complexes, fishing expeditions and spin control operations and
not lose their life's work.
No. Well hidden
Declan,
Here's a #4
#4 - NIPC is looking for high profile missions to back up up next year's
request for a massive appropriations increase and is hoping to stir up
the malcontents with incendiary leaks authenticated by a press release
about NIPC internal virus troubles. The negative effects of
Declan,
It's pretty bad.
The exemption (2) only applies if the intent is to advance the state of
the art in general or in the development of products. The means to
negate the exemption look like they're deeply embedded in the code.
(2)(A) is certainly easy to meet - woohoo.
(2)(B) is not too
Un-yikes yourself. Since the mail goes to a list I wasn't necessarily
asking you to do the job - I'm interested enough that if tips filter in
I'll check them out and package them nicely in an FAQ. That is assuming
one does not already exist.
Mike
Declan McCullagh wrote:
Yikes, editors pay me
freenet.
Unless I'm mistaken a node keeps a reference ( even if only temorarily )
to the originating node when data is added. So if I publish
sooper-infringer.tar.gz and the neighboring node that gets it is a narc
I'm screwed. Identify your dissidents and put in informants as
neighbors.
I think a lot of the flaws with the DMCA could be fixed by allowing
an exemption for a notice period -- one year after you notify them
that their crypto is broken, they've had enough time to fix it --
and if they haven't fixed it, they deserve what they get.
George wrote :
`(3) FACTORS IN DETERMINING EXEMPTION- In determining whether a person
qualifies for the exemption under paragraph (2), the factors to be
considered shall include--
`(A) whether the information derived from the encryption research was
disseminated, and if so, whether it was
Jim,
I think you often don't word things carefully enough. The resulting
discussions get pointless in a big hurry.
The optics used for focusing are NOT mirrors, they are (hopefully)
transparent at the frequency under use. A mirror on the other hand is
required to be OPAQUE with respect to
Did an interview for Time Digital 2 or 3 years ago. Just threw my copy
away. Equated limits on the effectiveness of domestic crypto with speed
limits. Pretty much spewed the party line. Had quit to work for a bank.
google it : james kallstrom fbi cryptography
Tim,
I think the reflected beam has the same wavelength as the incident beam.
Photons hitting a surface most definitely do not lose some energy
and get re-emitted. There are some very particular configurations
that can act as wavelength doublers, but this is a particular, and
hard to set up,
Um, what would the price premium be for a toilet that operates as a
stoolie? 10X? 20X? Don't hold your breath waiting for it to become a
standard. Ever seen the commodes in Japan with all sorts of knobs and
switches? Reminds me of a joke I heard about same long ago. Rather than
take serious risks
Auerbach insisted that he was not pushing for a tax on the satellites but
was simply doing his job and trying to determine whether they should be
taxed.
``I'm neutral on the whole thing,'' he said. ``My job is to make sure all
property that's taxable gets assessed and I'm going to follow
The power to destroy is the power to tax. Did I get that backwards? I'm
sorry. The power to tax is the power to destroy. I suppose it makes no
difference. It's a statement of equivalence rather than implication.
Nothing neutral about it, is there?
Black Unicorn wrote:
No, the real question is
Gee who would've guessed he'd be a hypocrite?
It never ceases to amaze me how the religions and their followers have
convinced themselves and plenty of others that religion is the source of
ethical thought, that they are the originators and keepers of the
principles that arguably help people
Um, wouldn't a natural way to assess property taxes be to first decide
in which jurisdiction the property rests? For instance project the
boundary of jurisdictions into space from the geometrical center of the
earth. In which case it would probably be Brazil that should be
collecting the taxes
I remember seeing the Nazi agitprop films during anthropology classes
in college. I'm not saying that modern TV is particularly splendid.
But at the producers are capitalists trying to maximize ratings (and
sex and insults may do that), not murderous government officials
trying to justify
I guess if your critical server is simply some sort of service provider
and the only data requiring security are the operating keys then your
hostile location is OK since rebuilding a system and restoring a few
keys ( which can be hidden just about anywhere ) is easily done.
Otherwise the loss of
Jim,
I remember that whole Faraday cage discussion - it was painful.
When it comes to EM you're really off in the tall grass.
Mike
Great Topic!
Steve Mynott wrote:
Ken Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On a tangent a friend claimed Americans didn't have electric kettles
for boiling water.
Can anyone confirm whether this is true?
I have never seen an electric kettle for boiling water for tea.
Why boil water for tea
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