Re: Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-14 Thread sunder
Tyler Durden wrote: Someone enlighten me here...I don't see this as obvious. I might certainly be willing to pay to route someone else's message if I understand that to be the real cost of mesh connectivity. In other words, say I'm driving down the FDR receiving telemetry about the road

Re: Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-14 Thread sunder
Tyler Durden wrote: Someone enlighten me here...I don't see this as obvious. I might certainly be willing to pay to route someone else's message if I understand that to be the real cost of mesh connectivity. In other words, say I'm driving down the FDR receiving telemetry about the road

Re: Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-10 Thread Tyler Durden
RAH wrote... At 10:43 AM -0700 4/9/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Meshnets (everyone's a router) is cool, admittedly. But are you going to spend *your* battery life routing someone else's message? Only if they pay me cash Someone enlighten me here...I don't see this as obvious. I might certainly

Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-10 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Meshnets (everyone's a router) is cool, admittedly. But are you going to spend *your* battery life routing someone else's message? Fixed P2P energy costs are trivial. Not so for mobile P2P. And if your meshnodes are mains-powered, you have wires going there, so wireless is less useful. Solar

Re: Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-10 Thread Anonymous
Tyler Durden wrote: RAH wrote... Only if they pay me cash few miles. If I'm a router, I'm also sending that info behind me (which is routing I'm paying for basically), but I will understand that the reason I am getting my telemetry is precisely because there's a string of me's in the

Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-09 Thread Major Variola (ret)
Meshnets (everyone's a router) is cool, admittedly. But are you going to spend *your* battery life routing someone else's message? Fixed P2P energy costs are trivial. Not so for mobile P2P. And if your meshnodes are mains-powered, you have wires going there, so wireless is less useful. Solar

Re: Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-09 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 10:43 AM -0700 4/9/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Meshnets (everyone's a router) is cool, admittedly. But are you going to spend *your* battery life routing someone else's message? Only if they pay me cash. :-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The

Re: Meshing costs (Re: Hierarchy, Force Monopoly, and Geodesic Societies)

2004-04-09 Thread Tyler Durden
RAH wrote... At 10:43 AM -0700 4/9/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Meshnets (everyone's a router) is cool, admittedly. But are you going to spend *your* battery life routing someone else's message? Only if they pay me cash Someone enlighten me here...I don't see this as obvious. I might certainly