Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-30 Thread Peter Gutmann
Dave Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was under the impression they had just licenced their *patent* Yup, and that's all they did. I've seen some downright bizarre interpretations of this particular portent on the web (cough slashdot/cough), but the simple fact is that the NSA, in its role as

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-28 Thread Declan O'Reilly
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:01:50 -0600 (CST) J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one here who finds this requirement excessive? My god: are we looking to keep these secrets for 50 years, or 5 (or more) years? Or am I missing something? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-27 Thread Declan O'Reilly
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 22:01:50 -0600 (CST) J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one here who finds this requirement excessive? My god: are we looking to keep these secrets for 50 years, or 5 (or more) years? Or am I missing something? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-27 Thread Dave Howe
Eugen Leitl wrote: [1]Roland Piquepaille writes According to eWEEK, the National Security Agency (NSA) has [2]picked a commercial solution for its encryption technology needs, instead on relying on its own proprietary code. I was under the impression they had just licenced their

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-27 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: snip In the case of the NSA deal, the agency wanted to use a 512-bit key for the ECC system. This is the equivalent of an RSA key of 15,360 bits. Am I the only one here who finds this requirement excessive? My god: are we looking to keep these

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-27 Thread Dave Howe
Eric Cordian wrote: Nonetheless, it's an indication that they don't think RSA has much of a future. Not really - they could simply be covering all bases (supporting RSA, DH and EC, knowing if DH is broken then almost certainly so is RSA (and vice versa) leaving only EC to fill the gap) The

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-26 Thread Eric Cordian
David Howe writes: I doubt the NSA need, trust or want anyone else's actual software for EC Nonetheless, it's an indication that they don't think RSA has much of a future. So now they have a public key cryptosystem with smaller key lengths, and a more obtuse one-way function that can't be

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption (fwd from brian-slashdotnews@hyperreal.org)

2003-10-26 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: snip In the case of the NSA deal, the agency wanted to use a 512-bit key for the ECC system. This is the equivalent of an RSA key of 15,360 bits. Am I the only one here who finds this requirement excessive? My god: are we looking to keep these