Net Censorship.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew X
Uzbekistan: Online dissidents silenced. Web sites that published articles alleging corruption among high state officials in Uzbekistan and forecasting President Islam Karimov's resignation have been cut off from Uzbek web users. Free expression is strictly controlled in Uzbekistan, which

Net Censorship au style.

2002-09-01 Thread Matthew X
Indymedia is under repression,its happened twice before.The first shut down Seattle and the Ohio server is no longer with us.See the main board at FBI/legal updates.lower left. On sept 11 the police are charging a mentally disabled man with threats to kill them.One was a comment to a post made

Re: CNN.com - Hackers help counter Net censorship - July 15, 2002 (fwd)

2002-07-18 Thread jayh
Previous message got lost in the ether (I think). Does anyone know what happened to this site? After all the buildup it seem unaccessiblej j On 15 Jul 2002 at 16:36, Jim Choate wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/07/15/censorship.reut/index.html --

Re: CNN.com - Hackers help counter Net censorship - July 15, 2002 (fwd)

2002-07-18 Thread jayh
Previous message got lost in the ether (I think). Does anyone know what happened to this site? After all the buildup it seem unaccessiblej j On 15 Jul 2002 at 16:36, Jim Choate wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/07/15/censorship.reut/index.html --

Re: CNN.com - Hackers help counter Net censorship - July 15, 2002 (fwd)

2002-07-17 Thread jayh
Does any one know what happened the the hactivisimo website? It was cited even on CNN, now it seems unavailable. j On 15 Jul 2002 at 16:36, Jim Choate wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/07/15/censorship.reut/index.html --

Re: CNN.com - Hackers help counter Net censorship - July 15, 2002 (fwd)

2002-07-17 Thread jayh
Does any one know what happened the the hactivisimo website? It was cited even on CNN, now it seems unavailable. j On 15 Jul 2002 at 16:36, Jim Choate wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/07/15/censorship.reut/index.html --

CNN.com - Hackers help counter Net censorship - July 15, 2002 (fwd)

2002-07-15 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/07/15/censorship.reut/index.html -- When I die, I would like to be born again as me. Hugh Hefner [EMAIL PROTECTED]

NSW net censorship It is just not going to work.

2002-03-18 Thread matthew X
Public eyes censorship plans Karen Dearne MARCH 13, 2002 NSW plans to censor the internet have been under scrutiny during two days of public hearings in Sydney. The Standing Committee on Social Issues is inquiring into whether the Classification Enforcement Amendment Bill provides an effective

Re: News: 'U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship'

2001-09-01 Thread Faustine
Greg wrote: At 05:31 PM 8/31/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote: Sure. But to what extent can you collaborate without a)approaching full- blown collusion or b) getting taken for a ride in spite of your best efforts? When you talk about collaborating and ZKS selling beta software to the NSA, are you

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-09-01 Thread Faustine
On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 01:27 PM, Faustine wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 11:43 AM, Faustine wrote: Tim wrote: But, as with Kirchoff's point, the attacker is going to get the design eventually. If getting the design eventually were good enough, why the keen interest in

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-09-01 Thread Faustine
Tim Wrote: On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 11:43 AM, Faustine wrote: Consistent with your misconception about big computers being useful for brute-force cryptanalyis, I never said that and you know it. Nice troll, though. You did indeed. Several times you alluded to what big and powerful

Re: News: 'U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship'

2001-09-01 Thread Greg Broiles
At 03:19 PM 9/1/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote: When you talk about collaborating and ZKS selling beta software to the NSA, are you saying you've got information that ZKS gave the NSA access to more information than the general public got, and/or that the NSA got their access or

Re: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 02:11 PM, Faustine wrote: True, of course they do. Technology is morally neutral, sure, whatever. Yay capitalism. I still think handing over your security product beta on a silver platter in exchange for a nice fat government contract is a stupid,

RE: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Phillip H. Zakas
Adam writes: As far as your opinions of our business, well, I'm really uninterested in getting into a pissing match with you. The reality is that customers and investors give us money tp produce privacy tools, and they, not you, are the ones I need to keep happy. The reality is that people

Re: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Adam Shostack
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 09:14:46PM -0700, Tim May wrote: | A mixnet of the N extant remailers offers pretty damned good | untraceability. Needs some work on getting remailers more robust, but | the underlying nested encryption looks to be a formidable challenge for | Shin Bet to crack.

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Ken Brown
Faustine wrote: [...] Of course it has a trap door, that's probably the whole point of getting it over there in the first place. And by the way, if you're going to question SafeWeb for cooperating with CIA, you might as well criticize ZeroKnowledge for selling a boatload of the Freedom beta

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread David Honig
At 10:02 AM 8/30/01 -0700, Tim May wrote: Alas, the marketing of such dissident-grade untraceability is difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also pedophile-grade, money launderer-grade, freedom fighter-grade, terrorist-grade, etc. --Tim May How about a

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread jamesd
-- On 30 Aug 2001, at 14:52, Faustine wrote: And as long as you have companies like ZeroKnowledge who are willing/gullible/greedy/just plain fucking stupid enough to sell their betas to the NSA, you never will. There is nothing wrong with selling betas to the NSA. I make my crypto

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread jamesd
-- On 30 Aug 2001, at 14:41, Faustine wrote: Of course it has a trap door, that's probably the whole point of getting it over there in the first place. And by the way, if you're going to question SafeWeb for cooperating with CIA, you might as well criticize ZeroKnowledge for selling a

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread David Honig
At 02:52 PM 8/30/01 -0400, Faustine wrote: And as long as you have companies like ZeroKnowledge who are willing/gullible/greedy/just plain fucking stupid enough to sell their betas to the NSA, you never will. ~Faustine. If knowledge of how something works breaks it, it wasn't worth having.

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread David Honig
At 02:41 PM 8/30/01 -0400, Faustine wrote: And by the way, if you're going to question SafeWeb for cooperating with CIA, you might as well criticize ZeroKnowledge for selling a boatload of the Freedom beta to the NSA in 1999 as well. What did they think they wanted it for, farting around on

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Faustine
Tim wrote: But, as with Kirchoff's point, the attacker is going to get the design eventually. If getting the design eventually were good enough, why the keen interest in putting in a large order for the beta? There's a reason. Maybe in the long run, it's right to view any objections as

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Tim May
On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 11:43 AM, Faustine wrote: Tim wrote: But, as with Kirchoff's point, the attacker is going to get the design eventually. If getting the design eventually were good enough, why the keen interest in putting in a large order for the beta? There's a reason.

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Faustine wrote: Tim wrote: But, as with Kirchoff's point, the attacker is going to get the design eventually. If getting the design eventually were good enough, why the keen interest in putting in a large order for the beta? There's a reason. As I recall, this was an

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-31 Thread Faustine
On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 11:43 AM, Faustine wrote: Tim wrote: But, as with Kirchoff's point, the attacker is going to get the design eventually. If getting the design eventually were good enough, why the keen interest in putting in a large order for the beta? There's a reason.

News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
)? Or when Denmark finances a system to bypass crackdowns on teen erotica in the U.S.? And so on. Here's a brief excerpt: Thursday August 30 3:23 AM ET U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship -NYT NEW YORK (Reuters) - United States government agencies hope to finance an American-based

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 12:16 PM, Adam Shostack wrote: As far as your opinions of our business, well, I'm really uninterested in getting into a pissing match with you. The reality is that customers and investors give us money tp produce privacy tools, and they, not you, are the

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread mmotyka
Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Adam wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:02:54AM -0700, Tim May wrote: | Alas, the marketing of such dissident-grade untraceability is | difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also | pedophile-grade, money launderer-grade, freedom

RE: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Phillip H. Zakas
Faustine wrote: I wouldn't trust either of them with anything significant. More importantly, the claims that safeweb/triangle boy actually works may be misleading to the people who will rely on its claims of securely circumventing government censorship in china. The entire in/out bound

Re: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Faustine
Mike wrote: Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Adam wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:02:54AM -0700, Tim May wrote: | Alas, the marketing of such dissident-grade untraceability is | difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also | pedophile-grade, money launderer-grade,