Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

-- From: ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of > Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism? Marxism reinterpreted history as class war, though in fact workers tended to cooperate with bosses and make war on competing workers, and simila

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

At 9:46 AM -0700 9/19/05, James A. Donald wrote: >like Ben and Jerry's rainforest crunch, where by buying >overpriced and extra fattening icecream, you were >supposedly saving the rainforest and preserving >indigenous cultures . Politics is marketing by other means... ;-) Cheers, RAH Or is it th

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

On 9/19/05, James A. Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > like Ben and Jerry's rainforest crunch, where by buying > overpriced and extra fattening icecream, you were > supposedly saving the rainforest and preserving > indigenous cultures . --shrug-- It's better than directly contributing to most "c

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

-- James A. Donald > : So when I buy coffee, that is political? Damian Gerow > Is it organic, fair-trade, shade-grown coffee? > Locally grown? Locally roasted? Purchased through > StarBucks or a local coffee shop? Do the growers use > their profits to help the growth of coca plants? Or > p

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

At 2:31 PM +0100 9/19/05, ken wrote: >Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what >exactly do you mean by Marxism? Exactly what you do. Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation 44 Farquhar Street, Bost

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

James A. Donald wrote: -- From: ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do you really think that politics only exists where there is a state? I'd have thought the opposite is true. Most states actively prevent most people participating in politics. The more authoritarian the state, th

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

R.A. Hettinga wrote: You're damn right it's political. Especially if you're a Marxist, or some, shall we say "homeopathic" variant thereof: after all, "the personal is political", right? Assuming that you mean feminism is a variant of Marxism, what exactly do you mean by Marxism?

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

At 2:03 PM -0400 9/17/05, Damian Gerow wrote: >You're damn right it's political. Especially if you're a Marxist, or some, shall we say "homeopathic" variant thereof: after all, "the personal is political", right? Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

Thus spake James A. Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [17/09/05 03:56]: : So when I buy coffee, that is political? Is it organic, fair-trade, shade-grown coffee? Locally grown? Locally roasted? Purchased through StarBucks or a local coffee shop? Do the growers use their profits to help the growth of

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

-- From: ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do you really think that politics only exists where > there is a state? I'd have thought the opposite is > true. Most states actively prevent most people > participating in politics. The more authoritarian the state, the more in compells pe

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

At 9:43 AM +0100 9/15/05, ken wrote: >Do you really think that politics only exists where there is a >state? Agreed, on this one. In 10th century Iceland, an ostensible anarcho-capitalist society with exactly *one* "public" employee(1) *everybody* was a lawyer -- and murder was a tort. See David

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

James A. Donald wrote: That is it. This is the ghost of cypherpunks. Or maybe its counterpart fossil. As GK Chesterton said about most nominal Christianity in the world in his day - the original had rotted away leaving a space of the same shape and size. Like the impression of a leaf

Re: The ghost of Cypherpunks

-- > Did the Cypherpunks have their heyday and that's it? That is it. This is the ghost of cypherpunks. Cypherpunks always was a self contradiction - a political group pushing a fundamentally non political attack upon the state, and thus upon the very existence of politics. This m

The ghost of Cypherpunks

Slashdot has published Isaac Jones' review of my book describing how we killed 56-bit DES, Brute Force: Cracking the Data Encryption Standard. The followup has been curiously devoid of mention of the Cypherpunks, a critical force in the Crypto Wars and to whom I dedicated the book. http://boo